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Sigile
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These Numbers Make Any Sense?

Postby Sigile » Tue May 31, 2011 9:57 am

So, got a calculator, and came up with these numbers. Sigile's military is 1% of her total population. So, do these numbers make sense? Is this a sound spread of our forces in our different branches or does it look kind of silly? Thanks for the help.


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Currently the entirety of Sigile's defensive force is 3,570,000 (1% of their entire population)

Active Duty: 1,570,000

Army: 750,000
Navy: 300,000
Airforce: 300,000
Marines: 220,000
In Reserve: 2,000,000
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue May 31, 2011 10:02 am

That depends on your land borders, your coastlines, how you get on with your various neighbours, how much overseas trade (& possibly other interests overseas) you have to protect, your alliances, your level of technology, your level of wealth, and probably other factors as well...
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue May 31, 2011 10:04 am

Why is so much of your population in your military?
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Postby Globexanter » Tue May 31, 2011 10:11 am

Maybe they look big, but if you want a professional Army, I have calculated via NSTracker (divide the Defense Budget by 1,000,000) that you could easily have a professional army of some odd 470,000 men.
That is, of course, if you don't want a conscripted style one.

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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue May 31, 2011 10:14 am

Your best bet is probably to select a RL nation whose situation you think is reasonably close to yours and look at how they do it.
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The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue May 31, 2011 10:14 am

Globexanter wrote:Maybe they look big, but if you want a professional Army, I have calculated via NSTracker (divide the Defense Budget by 1,000,000) that you could easily have a professional army of some odd 470,000 men.
That is, of course, if you don't want a conscripted style one.

Generally speaking funding has little effect on quality past a certain point, really you shouldn't pass 0.5-8% if you want an army on par with the US or UK. Most of the additional funds that say the US has compared to the UK mostly go towards large projects like research into the F-22 and the construction of super carriers and the like.
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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue May 31, 2011 10:16 am

Bears Armed wrote:Your best bet is probably to select a RL nation whose situation you think is reasonably close to yours and look at how they do it.

The problem with that is that the situation quickly gets out of hand due to NS scale. I would suggest you cap your military percentage at a certain percent of your population (US/UK have about 0.5%, Israel is like 2%, South Korea is like 3%, North Korea is like 4%) and work from there.
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue May 31, 2011 10:43 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Your best bet is probably to select a RL nation whose situation you think is reasonably close to yours and look at how they do it.

The problem with that is that the situation quickly gets out of hand due to NS scale. I would suggest you cap your military percentage at a certain percent of your population (US/UK have about 0.5%, Israel is like 2%, South Korea is like 3%, North Korea is like 4%) and work from there.

Or you could cap your population, at the appropriate level, instead: Bears Armed, for example, has a population of no more than 19 million rather than the 10 billion plus that the game suggests. Of course you might have to be a bit more selective about whom you RP warfare with than if you kept the higher & still-rising figures, but on the other paw you wouldn't need to keep on adjusting your armed forces (or, for that matter, your maps) to allow for the extra growth...
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

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Novariea
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Postby Novariea » Tue May 31, 2011 11:17 am

Sounds fine to me.

Personally I only have 0.5% of my population in active service in the military (which is still 10,000,000), with another 1% (20,000,000) in reserve. I think that's reasonable for the kind of professional, well-equipped and well-trained military I want to field (especially considering 20% of the budget goes into defense).
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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue May 31, 2011 11:36 am

Anything outside 1.5% of the population would require a good reason for realism, such as conscription, the legacy of conscription, or a long-standing tradition.

A reason such as "everyone regardless of conscience, ability or gender is automatically part of the military" might be acceptable as an official statement from a government, but bear in mind it is not possible in practice to have 100% of the population in the military.


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