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Unwritten constitution?

Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sat May 14, 2011 9:21 am

Does you nation(IC) have a written constitution?

An unwritten constitution is where there is no document you can point at and say that's the constitution like you can in say in the states.

The UK had an "unwritten" constitution as there is no one place where everything is set out, rather it's constitution is made out of a myriad law, treaties, practices, etc.

So does your nation have an unwritten constitution?

In my nations case, very much not, the closest it has is the acts of foundation and that only covers how the parliament works and isn't even one document (each member has it's own due to legal and practical reasons though they do say the same thing, their wording varies).
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Postby Equimanthon » Sat May 14, 2011 9:29 am

It's not unwritten. the UK constitution is very much written, it's just uncodified, which is for the best really, I hate the idea of having a rigid constitution telling you what you can and can't do.
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Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sat May 14, 2011 9:34 am

Equimanthon wrote:It's not unwritten. the UK constitution is very much written, it's just uncodified, which is for the best really, I hate the idea of having a rigid constitution telling you what you can and can't do.


Like I said, the term just refers to the fact it's not written in one place. If you can point to the document that is the UK constitution it will be news to me :p

The term unwritten is just lay mans term for uncodified.
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Postby Angleter » Sat May 14, 2011 9:39 am

Only the British clique here and- if there are any- the Israelis will be able to say 'unwritten' in this thread.
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Postby Equimanthon » Sat May 14, 2011 9:42 am

Angleter wrote:Only the British clique here and- if there are any- the Israelis will be able to say 'unwritten' in this thread.


And the Kiwis.
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Postby Angleter » Sat May 14, 2011 9:43 am

Equimanthon wrote:
Angleter wrote:Only the British clique here and- if there are any- the Israelis will be able to say 'unwritten' in this thread.


And the Kiwis.


And, it seems, the Sammarinese. Do we have any of them?
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Postby Equimanthon » Sat May 14, 2011 9:44 am

Angleter wrote:And, it seems, the Sammarinese. Do we have any of them?


Sammarinese = San Marino? I doubt it.
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Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sat May 14, 2011 9:44 am

Angleter wrote:Only the British clique here and- if there are any- the Israelis will be able to say 'unwritten' in this thread.


Hmm I think the dutch and a number of other monarchies would be in the unwritten camp, any IC stuff might change that ;P
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Postby Agritum » Sat May 14, 2011 9:49 am

well,atleast Italy's got a written costitution named "Costituzione Italiana"

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Postby The Merchant Republics » Sat May 14, 2011 9:50 am

I do believe this should be in FN&I?

Seems as if it may be intended for it. For the copious references to "your" and "my" nation. And it being a rather dull question for NSG, to be perfectly honest.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat May 14, 2011 9:51 am

Kingdoms of Cal wrote:
Equimanthon wrote:It's not unwritten. the UK constitution is very much written, it's just uncodified, which is for the best really, I hate the idea of having a rigid constitution telling you what you can and can't do.


Like I said, the term just refers to the fact it's not written in one place. If you can point to the document that is the UK constitution it will be news to me :p

The term unwritten is just lay mans term for uncodified.


Unwritten is an incorrect term for uncodified. It's that simple.

When I used to post here regularly (back in the day) I was probably as close as NSG had to an 'expert' on the British constitution (although I would never claim to be such, I only mean relative to everyone else on NSG). I'm not sure if anybody else has come along who knows a lot about it or not.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat May 14, 2011 9:51 am

The Merchant Republics wrote: And it being a rather dull question for NSG, to be perfectly honest.


You jest, surely.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Sat May 14, 2011 9:53 am

Equimanthon wrote:
Angleter wrote:Only the British clique here and- if there are any- the Israelis will be able to say 'unwritten' in this thread.


And the Kiwis.

Which means the government can pretty much pass and repeal whatever it wants, so long as it has the numbers. :meh:
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Sat May 14, 2011 9:57 am

Nadkor wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote: And it being a rather dull question for NSG, to be perfectly honest.


You jest, surely.

I mean to say it doesn't seem to be intended to start a debate. There isn't a pro/con for an unwritten constitution, it seems clear he is asking us what our nations have. Which to me indicates that he probably not looking for whether the nations that we live in IRL have, but rather our online nations. Deductively speaking.
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Postby Britanania » Sat May 14, 2011 9:57 am

Britanania has an Imperial Constitution.

View it in my signature.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat May 14, 2011 9:59 am

The Merchant Republics wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
You jest, surely.

I mean to say it doesn't seem to be intended to start a debate. There isn't a pro/con for an unwritten constitution, it seems clear he is asking us what our nations have. Which to me indicates that he probably not looking for whether the nations that we live in IRL have, but rather our online nations. Deductively speaking.


My point, which you've missed completely, is that there are an infinite number of incredibly dull topics regularly discussed on NSG.
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Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sat May 14, 2011 10:00 am

The Merchant Republics wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
You jest, surely.

I mean to say it doesn't seem to be intended to start a debate. There isn't a pro/con for an unwritten constitution, it seems clear he is asking us what our nations have. Which to me indicates that he probably not looking for whether the nations that we live in IRL have, but rather our online nations. Deductively speaking.


Edited to make that clear.

As for dull, well a thread is what people make of it...and I figure there are probably some rather odd constitutional set up outs there.
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Postby Maraque » Sat May 14, 2011 10:01 am

Tsvarchi has no such constitution, and the people have continuously voted down referendums to write one; when one was written without their consent, it was burned within six minutes.

Tsvarchi's Declaration of Unification, Declaration of Foundation, the Maraquean Bill of Rights & Freedoms, and the Maraquean Animal Bill of Rights & Freedoms acts as the supreme law of the land, and it is those documents which the Royal Constitutional Court seeks reference during cases of a constitutional nature.

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Postby The Merchant Republics » Sat May 14, 2011 10:05 am

Kingdoms of Cal wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote:I mean to say it doesn't seem to be intended to start a debate. There isn't a pro/con for an unwritten constitution, it seems clear he is asking us what our nations have. Which to me indicates that he probably not looking for whether the nations that we live in IRL have, but rather our online nations. Deductively speaking.


Edited to make that clear.

As for dull, well a thread is what people make of it...and I figure there are probably some rather odd constitutional set up outs there.

I meant dull for OOC debate.

It's a fine topic for FN&I but a poor one for General.
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Sat May 14, 2011 10:07 am

Nadkor wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote:I mean to say it doesn't seem to be intended to start a debate. There isn't a pro/con for an unwritten constitution, it seems clear he is asking us what our nations have. Which to me indicates that he probably not looking for whether the nations that we live in IRL have, but rather our online nations. Deductively speaking.


My point, which you've missed completely, is that there are an infinite number of incredibly dull topics regularly discussed on NSG.

My funny bone is broken today. :(
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Postby Sebastianalandia » Sat May 14, 2011 10:12 am

Our People's Constitution was drafted by the First (Founding) All-Sebastianalandian Congress of Soviets, meeting in 1995 as the Civil War was ending. It's very much codified.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat May 14, 2011 10:57 am

We found it necessary to have a written document ensuring ever lasting glory and power to the Arch Duke.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat May 14, 2011 11:10 am

Minoa's constitution is not written in one place. The law consists of the Charter of Minoa and the active legislation passed after the date it entered into force, 25 March 2025.

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Postby Saurisisia » Sat May 14, 2011 11:51 am

Of course, we have a written document! It's on display in the National Museum of Saurisian History.
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Postby Vecherd » Sat May 14, 2011 12:07 pm

Our constitution is written.
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