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Child Labor Laws: Play or Pay

Postby GOLTZBORG » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:08 pm

At what age can a citizen legally begin an occupation, which pays the average ( or minimum ) wage per hour and receive benefits according to availablity offered at the job site ?
( benefits: insurance, overtime, holiday pay, vacation, etc )

How old must one be...or put another way...how young can one be ??

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Not to include the family farm child labor, where all members help out in the production of crops and livestock, and not to include the youth who have paper routes; but more at, occupations that pay relatively good for the talents and energy required. ( i.e. white collar, blue collar, etc )

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Postby Maraque » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:14 pm

A person can begin working any time, given that they are not forced or coerced into performing the job.

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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:15 pm

Child Labor is illegal, children are supposed to play, not work under harsh conditions.
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Postby New Freedomstan » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:16 pm

Depends. Some sectors can employ people as young as 15, if those individuals have filed a request to be transferred from school to workplaces (mostly teens who simply hates theoretical education and would instead get into work as quick as possible). Most who start work that early reapplies for schooling after a year or so however.

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Postby Animalia Prime » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:20 pm

Animalian children must go through enough school to understand how to walk, talk, and read. With this they also must learn the basics of our society such as the history of the Republic, basic mathematics, and basic reading and writing. After this is completed they may work as long as they are not forced to.

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Postby GOLTZBORG » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:25 pm

Saurisisia wrote:Child Labor is illegal, children are supposed to play, not work under harsh conditions.


Understood and agreed.

However, at what age can a person begin work in the labor force ?

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Postby Easterlands (Ancient) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:25 pm

At what age can a citizen legally begin an occupation, which pays the average ( or minimum ) wage per hour and receive benefits according to availablity offered at the job site ?
( benefits: insurance, overtime, holiday pay, vacation, etc )


Legally, anyone 12 years of age or higher may get a job that paws 5 Egg-marks(10 USD) an hour and receive benefits with their parents permission. Anyone 17 or older can get a job on their own.
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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:25 pm

Goltzborg wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:Child Labor is illegal, children are supposed to play, not work under harsh conditions.


Understood and agreed.

However, at what age can a person begin work in the labor force ?

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Postby Secunderabad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:30 pm

Anyone who needs to work should.
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:04 pm

Seperate Vermont wrote:Vermont does not have Child Labor Laws. It would be hypocritical for us to do so.

We don't say that Children cannot work in certain environments, we simply say no person can work against their will or be coerced nor exploited to work in any work environment. It's the main goal of human rights to end slavery and forced labor without advancement, not to discriminate a workplace entirely based on age.

Of course, certain reasonableness does not fall under discrimination.


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Postby Gaiso » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:09 pm

The minimum age is 18, when one finishes High School.

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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:26 pm

Minimum age in Monkiah is 10 years when one becomes an adult. Of course that is the equivilant to 20 Terran years.
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Postby Thurask » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:11 pm

Saurisisia wrote:Child Labor is illegal, children are supposed to play, not work under harsh conditions.

This. A Thuraski is legally considered an adult at the age of 16.
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Postby Eisen Reich » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:18 pm

you can recieve minimum pay and benefits from the age of 16. this is the age you can drop out. if you keep going then you cant miss school for work. part time jobs begin at 13 if you work for an actual buisiness

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Postby The Merchant Republics » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:22 pm

Maraque wrote:A person can begin working any time, given that they are not forced or coerced into performing the job.

This precisely. ^

It is quite common for children as young as eight to take odd jobs in their free time, since the "allowance" really doesn't exist in any discernible nature in the Republics, they have to in order to buy things. Common jobs are delivering packages, shining shoes, cleaning shops and selling home-baked goods. It is logically believed that showing children how hard it can be to make a dollar, save their money teaches them to be more fiscally responsible and hard-working.

Of course, depending on the case many parents would prefer their child to concentrate on his or her education, since in many ways especially to the poor a child earns a great deal back to his parents for focusing on schoolwork first.
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Postby Fjeld » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:35 pm

At 15 years old a Fjeld may take any work which does not interfere with school. At 19 (s)he, having finished common education, may take any work they please or take advanced education.
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Postby Revea » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:42 pm

People can work at 14 with a working permit, and need one until 16.

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Postby Fatatatutti » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:55 pm

In Fatatatutti, children are full citizens at birth and their rights can not be infringed. There are no discriminatory ages of any kind. A child can work at any age at any job that he can do, just like anybody else. (Note that children are also eligible for a guaranteed annual income, just like anybody else, so they don't "need" to work.)

In practice, of course, children are encouraged to go to school and to enjoy their childhood instead of trying to grow up too fast.

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:15 pm

It's technically legal for a new Decepticon to work at any age, but culturally, it's HIGHLY frowned upon to send someone to labor before he reaches an age near to mental maturity. For us, this is around 4 years old, which is equivalent to the human mental age of 15-16.

Sending someone to work before he's even sapient (under 2) is technically legal too, but *that* will certainly get you blasted. Using a Decepticon as a mere piece of nonsapient equipment is an insult to the entire nation, and you will find that the entire nation will become your lethal enemy if you dare to try it!

In practice, new Decepticons stay home until they reach full maturity at 5. Since our "work" isn't usually the wage-earning kind, but the dodge-missiles-and-raid kind, it's too dangerous to send children into it in anything besides emergency circumstances. That said, sometimes an immature Decepticon will be obstinately daring, or worse, end up in a situation where his Coder can't provide for him. In these cases, they tend to go raiding on their own when no gang will accept them. These forays of immature bots have a higher than average chance of coming to a tragic end.

Note: Decepticons are built at full size and strength, so are physically capable of full-strength work from the minute they're activated. Mental maturity, on the other hand, takes a bit longer to develop. Hiring one too young can lead to undesirable consequences for all involved.
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Postby Rumbria » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:36 pm

'Children' are allowed to leave school at age 14, whereby, if they have no interest in attending a technical college, they will be conscripted into the military.

Between the ages of 12-14, one may hold down a part time job
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Postby Harata » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:41 pm

Children may work part time at any time, and they can begin to work full-time at 16 years of age.
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Postby YellowApple » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:58 am

Child labor is legal in YellowApple, but there are some restrictions:
  • Must not interfere with education
  • Must not subject child to dangerous activities
  • Must not exceed 3 hours per day on weekdays, or 5 hours per day on weekends
  • Workday must be divided into two halves
  • Employers must provide 1 hour meal-time between the two halves (included in the 3-5 daily hours)
  • Meal must be provided, or an increase in pay so that the parents may afford it

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Postby Vatel » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:56 am

At what age can a citizen legally begin an occupation?
In Vatel, one can begin an occupation at 15 years old, but a full time occupation starts at 18.

which pays the average ( or minimum ) wage per hour and receive benefits according to availablity offered at the job site ?
( benefits: insurance, overtime, holiday pay, vacation, etc )

Workers under 18 only paid with the corresponding minimum wages set by government, maximum of 15 hours a week with limits of 4 hours per day and 5 days a week, no overtime. Workers are covered by basic insurance, taxed, and given vacation grant three days a month. The maximum contract length is two month.

They are not allowed to work in potentially hazardous to health environment (for example: Uranium mining facility) or works that extensively require physical abilities.

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Postby Imeriata » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:02 am

As children are only smaller adults so can they begin to work whenever they want
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Postby New Embossia » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:06 am

12 Years, 11 Months for minimum wage. Full time (legally) starts at 15.
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