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GOLTZBORG
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Psychotic Dictatorship

The Fine Line: Uniformity vs Diversity

Postby GOLTZBORG » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:40 pm

Each society must encourage both: uniformity and diversity, in order to capitalize on and exploit the advantages of both ends of the spectrum; whereby, diversity allows more creativity to flow from the bottom up, while on the other hand uniformity allows for easier control of the masses.
( i.e. unchecked freedom of the press allows contrasting ideas to emerge into the consciousness of a social order; while limited censorship prevents one to scream "fire" when there is no fire. )

Do you believe that your government threads the needle ( the fine line ) when it comes down to social uniformity ( control and mutual obligation ), verses social diversity ( expansion of ideas ) ?

Give examples that reflect your position on whether or not you believe that your government is more of a "control freak" ( i.e. uniformity ), or else more of a "hands off" ( i.e. divesity ).
( press, speech, education, employment, economy, foreign policy, elections, etc )

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Fatatatutti
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Ex-Nation

Postby Fatatatutti » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:45 pm

Fatatatutian society is very much a bottom-up system. In fact, it could probably be said that it has no top at all (which makes sense becasue Fatatatutians don't like heights). There is certainly no "control of the masses". The government is controlled by the masses.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Maraque » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:50 pm

Any administration that tried to control the masses and stop the flow of freedom, diversity, and creativity would quickly find themselves being toppled by a coalition of the people and Militia. Uniformity is a very sour and negative word here.

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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:15 pm

Our government is a compromise between Uniformity and Diversity, we allow a good amount of Free Speech and all that, as long as no one criticizes our policies or society TOO much or advocate radical change or something like equality of all species.

Even then, we won't react to that too harshly, beyond laughing and scorn from those persons' peers.
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Whiskey Hill
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Postby Whiskey Hill » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:23 pm

While very diverse in ethnicity, religion, languages, etc., we have not traditionally been diverse ideologically, as we exile those who do not abide by the sacred social contract. Anyone who shares our beliefs and upholds them may come to our country, and become a citizen, but even natives who violate the social contract will be rejected.
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Threlizdun
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Threlizdun » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:25 pm

There is no government in Threlizdun, however laws and regulations are set upon the basis of "Anything that does not harm a nonconsensual individual is legal".
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:30 pm

Maraque wrote:Any administration that tried to control the masses and stop the flow of freedom, diversity, and creativity would quickly find themselves being toppled by a coalition of the people and Militia. Uniformity is a very sour and negative word here.

Pretty much this ^
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Maroza
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Maroza » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:38 pm

The government has a tight control on the masses while still giving them some personal freedoms.
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Anarchy

Postby Gallade » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:59 pm

The Galladian Empire prides itself on its libertarian agenda. The government encourages neither uniformity nor diversity, but rather allows social etiquette to run its course.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:08 pm

Minoan culture has been influenced by immigration and the culture they brought in with, as well as discovery. Therefore Minoan culture is gradually evolving all the time.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Augarundus » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:21 pm

As a socially as well as economically laissez-faire territory, La Capitalismus' anarchocapitalist environment encourages a rejection of the idea of "society"; individuals do not identify with other members of La Capitalismus based on being residents alone, but, rather, their individual interests and aims in life. For this reason, the only single cultural identity that is held uniformly is the belief in liberty and the individual.

Dissent even to this idea exists, though the uncommon, collectivist sects of the populace are few in number and have no substantial influence on public opinion.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Turmoilandia » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:07 am

In Turmoilandia, the government doesn't do much to enforce conformity with mainstream values, as the pressure to conform in Turmoilandian society is enormous. For the most part, we have freedom of the press and freedom of speech in Turmoilandia (as long as you don't say things that are false or obscene). The Turmoilandian economy is a mostly unregulated free market economy. We have a 3-party political system between the Patriotic Conservatives (PCs), the Moderate Party (which is anything but), and the Freedom Party. There is a consensus in our nation that we should not involve ourselves in matters that do not concern us in distant lands (only a few leftist ideologues oppose the foreign policy consensus). Our education system is one of the few things that the government provides and is designed to reinforce parental values and societal norms.

About the only way in which the government enforces conformity to Turmoilandian values is by enforcing laws against immorality in public places. The police know how to mind their own business, so you can engage in immoral activities in private.

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Mount Shavano
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Postby Mount Shavano » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:03 am

The government makes no attempt to encourage either. In some ways our society is pretty diverse; in other it is pretty uniform.
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Umbra Ac Silentium
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:07 am

Goltzborg wrote:Each society must encourage both: uniformity and diversity, in order to capitalize on and exploit the advantages of both ends of the spectrum; whereby, diversity allows more creativity to flow from the bottom up, while on the other hand uniformity allows for easier control of the masses.
( i.e. unchecked freedom of the press allows contrasting ideas to emerge into the consciousness of a social order; while limited censorship prevents one to scream "fire" when there is no fire. )

Do you believe that your government threads the needle ( the fine line ) when it comes down to social uniformity ( control and mutual obligation ), verses social diversity ( expansion of ideas ) ?

Give examples that reflect your position on whether or not you believe that your government is more of a "control freak" ( i.e. uniformity ), or else more of a "hands off" ( i.e. divesity ).
( press, speech, education, employment, economy, foreign policy, elections, etc )

We're a highly, highly diverse nation. No, there is no fine line, we're all about social diversity.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:34 am

The Megatron Regime is quite rigid. Dissent is openly considered a crime - treason - and will get you killed. Needless to say, people don't tend to admit it when they disagree with the government.

The national culture is also strongly controlled, both through societal taboos and anti-treason laws. It's great if you're of a "proper" Decepticon mindset: daring, conniving, and willing to raid. If you're not, you'll face anything from open discrimination or ostracization to the Cybertronian equivalent of lynching. Even those who are in "honest bot" jobs had better be able to fake a willingness to join his fellows in glorious raiding and military conquest!

Decepticon morality is a bit odd, but there, and just as rigid. In the simplest terms, it's immoral...to spout off about morals. This is because doing so is un-Decepticon, which is immoral, though because of the aforementioned taboo, we'll go to lengths to describe cultural treason using other words.

There are many ways to get considered un-Decepticon - this is just one of them. Some are "good" and some "bad." It's un-Decepticon to intentionally build a defective offspring, and this belief is clearly good for both offspring and the Nation as a whole. On the other hand, it's un-Decepticon to worry about the weak, who are generally considered "unworthy even of the metal they're made of." Some might consider this dubious at best. WE consider it an essential belief of the Decepticon Way, and one of the reasons we have a strong Nation.

As for diversity of thought, it's fine to be diverse as long as you're thinking of ways to be a better Decepticon and strengthen and enrich the Nation!

The definition of "better" is not up for grabs. Trying to mess with our culture, cause regime change, or otherwise monkey with the Decepticon Way, on the other hand, will never be acceptable let alone desired. We're quite alert about preventing the "cultural rot" that had befallen many Earthian nations.
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Postby YellowApple » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:06 am

Anything insulting YellowApple as a whole (which includes The Administrator and YellowApplan government) is seen as a "threatening crime" and punishable with de-citizenship, which often leads to involuntary servitude.

YellowApplan society generally frowns upon excessive diversity, seeing it as detrimental to progress. Religious, ethnic, and creative diversity, however, are all accepted only as long as they do not attempt to challenge YellowApplan authority. Churches, mosques, temples, and synagogues are welcome as long as they seek a commercial occupation permit like any other non-profit or not-for-profit organization. Missionaries are welcome, but may not preach in or near government-operated areas, and citizens may ask to be left alone, a request that must be respected (failure to comply will result in de-citizenship).

Political diversity is illegal. There is no need for it. Not that such dissent occurs in YellowApple. Anyone who does disagree leaves without warning "at their own will".

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Revea
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Postby Revea » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:42 am

The Revea government has a hands-off policy in regards to personal liberties.

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The Kangaroo Republic
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Postby The Kangaroo Republic » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:54 am

The government takes a nice and balanced approach on this. While healthcare and education are completely universal and the government has extensive social welfare programmes for those who are unemployed but are actively searching for jobs, for the elderly, the handicapped, those who are ill for a long period of time and for single parents who can't work because they have to care for their children, on the other hand, the government respects the population's freedom of speech, press, religion and sexuality and the economy is mostly free, although it is regulated a little.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Malgrave » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:15 am

Maraque wrote:Any administration that tried to control the masses and stop the flow of freedom, diversity, and creativity would quickly find themselves being toppled by a coalition of the people and Militia. Uniformity is a very sour and negative word here.


This. Malgrave is a very free state. Unless you call for the destruction of the democratic government and replacement with a Dictatorship. That can land you in trouble.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:18 am

Goltzborg wrote:Do you believe that your government threads the needle ( the fine line ) when it comes down to social uniformity ( control and mutual obligation ), verses social diversity ( expansion of ideas ) ?

Yes, we ensure a common linguistic and cultural standpoint for our citizens and then let them go about their business as they please.
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Gilthador
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Ex-Nation

Postby Gilthador » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:22 am

Our government is the People. Uniformity is quite taboo here. No representative would even consider enforcing any such regulations.
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