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The Patrian Faith in your nation.

Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:37 am

Facts about the Patrian Faith and Order:


The Patrian Faith, which is similar to Stoicism, Mithraism, Taoism, and Aristotleism, in many respects, is the predominant religion/philosophy of United Valik. Its clergy are the Patrian Order or the Patrian Brethren/Brotherhood, a paramilitary semi-monastic fraternity/secret society/priesthood that is exclusively male and has strong Masonic/Illuminati undertones. Its leader, the Patriarch, is also Grand Master of the Patrian Order by definition. The current Patriarch is Stanislaus I, who is by United Valik's constitution, thus automatically, the country's head of state.

Patrianism is highly patriarchal, as the name suggests, and intensely patriotic as well. It emphasizes and maintains a clear distinction between the clergy and laity, as the former have been ordained and initiated, unlike the latter. The former have the secret gnosis or knowledge of the true nature of the Cosmos.

However, despite this terminology, Patrians are not Gnostics or any other kind of Christians. They are a distinct religion altogether, and their mysterious rites contain public as well as occult ceremonies. They categorically reject, as a key point of divergence from the theology of the Gnostics, any notion of a dualism between matter and spirit, as well as any of what one Brother called "this nonsense of a Sacred Feminine Principle." Rumors of sorcery and magic are often believed, and, of course, every Brethren/Order commune has its own arsenal. Little is known of the sexual habits (if any) of the Brethren, as they are sworn to absolute secrecy about the nature and composition of their fraternity.

Naturally, this secrecy leads to speculation, often wild in type, which the Brethren simply ignore.

A splinter sect, the Patrian Community of Faith in Christ, is an attempt to fuse Patrianism and Christianity.

Are there any Patrians in your country? If so, apply here for the creation of a Patrian Order communal brotherhood in your country, if you wish. That is, if you tolerate them. The Patriarch is not going to send them someplace where they will be persecuted. That would create a diplomatic incident.

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Is he/she Patrian?
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Treatment of Patrians:
Official Religion, if any of your nation:
How many Patrians?
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?
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Postby Germoria » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:53 am

Nation Name:The Galactic Kaleesh Empire of Germoria
Population:somewhere in the trillions if not more.
Government Type:Democratic Empire/Imperial Democracy
Leader:Qymaen jai Sheelal
Is he/she Patrian?no
Economy:Mixed
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies):The WA is no longer existing, nor is it important to us as it is a small one planet alliance.
Treatment of Patrians:Treated well and are amazingly good in the outer sectors.
Official Religion, if any of your nation:Christianity, with the Jedi Order coming in close.
How many Patrians?236,000,000,000
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?4,000
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?A Wookie named Halmanica (if I understand this part right.)
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Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:02 am

Germoria wrote:Nation Name:The Galactic Kaleesh Empire of Germoria
Population:somewhere in the trillions if not more.
Government Type:Democratic Empire/Imperial Democracy
Leader:Qymaen jai Sheelal
Is he/she Patrian?no
Economy:Mixed
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies):The WA is no longer existing, nor is it important to us as it is a small one planet alliance.
Treatment of Patrians:Treated well and are amazingly good in the outer sectors.
Official Religion, if any of your nation:Christianity, with the Jedi Order coming in close.
How many Patrians?236,000,000,000
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?4,000
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?A Wookie named Halmanica (if I understand this part right.)


Done. Grand High Magus Halmanica will be granted investiture of his tenure of office by the Grand Captain-General of the Order, Brother Mariusz, a week hence, when the aforementioned Brother and his legation arrive in Germoria for the First Grand Convocation and First Clandestine Initiation and Mysterious Rite of the Patrian Order and Faith, which will create and institute the first formal and recognized organization of the Patrian community in Germoria. We had no idea that we had so many adherents in your country, but we are pleased to learn of this and are eager to accommodate them with their own clergy, monasteries, and temples/shrines.

With the greatest and warmest of congratulations and fraternal fellowship,
Brother Cyrus, Grand Chancellor of the Patrian Order and Faith
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Postby Dagnia » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:50 am

Nation Name: The Technocratic Planet of Dagnia
Population: < 15 billion
Government Type: Presidential Democratic Republic
Leader: Rashad Balafrej
Is he/she Patrian? No, he is an atheist.
Economy: Laissez-faire capitalism
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies): We don't like it, but believe if more nations that think like ours join instead of staying out, we could shape the world according to our vision.
Treatment of Patrians: Very good compared to most other religions. We even find many parts of their philosophy to be compatible with some of what a typical Dagnian believes, since Lao Zi and Aristotle are the intellectual fathers/grandfathers of some of the philosophers followed here. The Patriarchal aspect some of us may find a bit disagreeable, as Dagnians generally see the sexes as equal and both sex and gender as fluid concepts.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Atheism/LaVeyan Satanism
How many Patrians? Around 100 million
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where? Their religion is their business. As long as it is not treasonous and no one's rights are violated (we do have laws against cultish activity, like forcing people to stay in against their will) they can do what they want. Religious organizations are also taxed heavily here. As many as the Patrian community wants.
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)? We don't know. Whoever wants to be.
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:22 am

Nation Name: The Zionist Republic of Vecherd
Population: 1 412 000 000
Government Type: Presidential Republic
Leader: Seamus O`Donell
Is he/she Patrian? No
Economy: Type Laissez Faire strength Frightening
Stance on the WA : Neutral/bad
Treatment of Patrians: None in particular, like other religions,
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Judaism.
How many Patrians? 2 000
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where? One, in the capital, Cairlinn
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus ? Mick Collins.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:33 am

Are there any Patrians in your country? If so, apply here for the creation of a Patrian Order communal brotherhood in your country, if you wish. That is, if you tolerate them. The Patriarch is not going to send them someplace where they will be persecuted. That would create a diplomatic incident.

Nation Name: La Imperium Populi Quendorum
Population: 2bn +
Government Type: Complex hybrid form
Leader: Sola Populi
Is he/she Patrian? Very few of them are and most have reservations against the patrian cult
Economy: Freightening
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies): Pro
Treatment of Patrians: Frawned upon but accepted. The patrian cults misogyny, secrecy, militarization and above all its decision to take political stances (something that is considered unacceptable for religions) makes the cult an object of mockery and disgust. The freedom of through is however held in high regard and patrians are not persecuted even if they are rarely welcomed with open arms. Perhaps most critically for the Patrian Faith is the fact that no Comparative Religious Super Groups (as a multi religious society with hundreds if not thousands of faiths the Quendi religions tend to band together in larger groups (like the Abrahamic Group) to further there means) has wished to associate itself with the Patrian Faith for a number of reasons.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Mainly the neo-pagan cult
How many Patrians? Unknown but a couple of millions
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where? Most major cities can support a communal brotherhood
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)? petty nobleman Indoril Myth Palaedra
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:35 am

Germoria wrote:Nation Name:The Galactic Kaleesh Empire of Germoria
Population:somewhere in the trillions if not more.
Government Type:Democratic Empire/Imperial Democracy
Leader:Qymaen jai Sheelal
Is he/she Patrian?no
Economy:Mixed
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies):The WA is no longer existing, nor is it important to us as it is a small one planet alliance.
Treatment of Patrians:Treated well and are amazingly good in the outer sectors.
Official Religion, if any of your nation:Christianity, with the Jedi Order coming in close.
How many Patrians?236,000,000,000
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?4,000
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?A Wookie named Halmanica (if I understand this part right.)

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Postby Zitru » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:41 am

Nation Name: The Republic of Zitru
Population: 465 million
Government Type: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Leader: Aster Phoenix
Is he/she Patrian?: No. He's a Dragoaist
Economy: Powerhouse
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies): Not too keen on the WA, though we have joined it
Treatment of Patrians: They will be treated like every other citizen in Zitru. They'll feel like their in Heaven.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Dragoaism (Drago - ism)
How many Patrians?: 157
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?: 2, Kavlaik and Molligan (If that's right)
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?: Derkaz Ilonavic
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Postby The Batorys » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:18 am

Nation Name: The Batory Empire
Population: See factbook
Government Type: Matriarchal absolute monarchy, meritocratic administration, semi-federalist provinces.
Leader: Empress Vereba Batory
Is he/she Patrian? Not in the least.
Economy: What exactly are you asking here?
Stance on the WA: The Empire is not a member but has no particular opinion about the WA.
Treatment of Patrians: The Empress does not particularly care where her subjects' spiritual loyalties lie, as long as their political loyalties belong to her.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: No official religion, but the traditional pagan rites of the northwest tend to be favored by the Batory clan, with Empress Vereba being, in fact, a semi-retired priestess of the Ithtyr (goddess of lust/vengeance/earth/moroii/death)
How many Patrians? Probably around two dozen thousand.
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?Two. One in Drun (not the capital city, but the headquarters of most religions that have a presence in the Empire... if one doesn't have a presence in the holy city, one is not considered to be a 'serious' religion), the other in Sarkanotthon (the capital city of the Empire).
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus? Vlad Irryukas.
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Postby Germoria » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:46 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Germoria wrote:Nation Name:The Galactic Kaleesh Empire of Germoria
Population:somewhere in the trillions if not more.
Government Type:Democratic Empire/Imperial Democracy
Leader:Qymaen jai Sheelal
Is he/she Patrian?no
Economy:Mixed
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies):The WA is no longer existing, nor is it important to us as it is a small one planet alliance.
Treatment of Patrians:Treated well and are amazingly good in the outer sectors.
Official Religion, if any of your nation:Christianity, with the Jedi Order coming in close.
How many Patrians?236,000,000,000
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?4,000
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?A Wookie named Halmanica (if I understand this part right.)

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Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:36 pm

Dagnia wrote:Nation Name: The Technocratic Planet of Dagnia
Population: < 15 billion
Government Type: Presidential Democratic Republic
Leader: Rashad Balafrej
Is he/she Patrian? No, he is an atheist.
Economy: Laissez-faire capitalism
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies): We don't like it, but believe if more nations that think like ours join instead of staying out, we could shape the world according to our vision.
Treatment of Patrians: Very good compared to most other religions. We even find many parts of their philosophy to be compatible with some of what a typical Dagnian believes, since Lao Zi and Aristotle are the intellectual fathers/grandfathers of some of the philosophers followed here. The Patriarchal aspect some of us may find a bit disagreeable, as Dagnians generally see the sexes as equal and both sex and gender as fluid concepts.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Atheism/LaVeyan Satanism
How many Patrians? Around 100 million
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where? Their religion is their business. As long as it is not treasonous and no one's rights are violated (we do have laws against cultish activity, like forcing people to stay in against their will) they can do what they want. Religious organizations are also taxed heavily here. As many as the Patrian community wants.
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)? We don't know. Whoever wants to be.


We will start with forty monasteries, and then see what happens from there. The Grand Procurator, Brother Aeneas, will consult the local Patrians before choosing a Grand High Magus.
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Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:39 pm

Vecherd wrote:Nation Name: The Zionist Republic of Vecherd
Population: 1 412 000 000
Government Type: Presidential Republic
Leader: Seamus O`Donell
Is he/she Patrian? No
Economy: Type Laissez Faire strength Frightening
Stance on the WA : Neutral/bad
Treatment of Patrians: None in particular, like other religions,
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Judaism.
How many Patrians? 2 000
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where? One, in the capital, Cairlinn
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus ? Mick Collins.


Done. Brother Orpheus, the Grand State Secretary of the Order, will soon arrive to formally invest Brother Mick with his new ecclesiastical authority and establish the first monastery in Vecherd.
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Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:47 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:Are there any Patrians in your country? If so, apply here for the creation of a Patrian Order communal brotherhood in your country, if you wish. That is, if you tolerate them. The Patriarch is not going to send them someplace where they will be persecuted. That would create a diplomatic incident.

Nation Name: La Imperium Populi Quendorum
Population: 2bn +
Government Type: Complex hybrid form
Leader: Sola Populi
Is he/she Patrian? Very few of them are and most have reservations against the patrian cult
Economy: Freightening
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies): Pro
Treatment of Patrians: Frawned upon but accepted. The patrian cults misogyny, secrecy, militarization and above all its decision to take political stances (something that is considered unacceptable for religions) makes the cult an object of mockery and disgust. The freedom of through is however held in high regard and patrians are not persecuted even if they are rarely welcomed with open arms. Perhaps most critically for the Patrian Faith is the fact that no Comparative Religious Super Groups (as a multi religious society with hundreds if not thousands of faiths the Quendi religions tend to band together in larger groups (like the Abrahamic Group) to further there means) has wished to associate itself with the Patrian Faith for a number of reasons.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Mainly the neo-pagan cult
How many Patrians? Unknown but a couple of millions
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where? Most major cities can support a communal brotherhood
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)? petty nobleman Indoril Myth Palaedra


While a bit nervous due to religious prejudice against his Faith, Brother Ignace, a Grand Prelate of the Order, has been sent at the head of a delegation to formally create Patrian monasteries and other religious centers in the Quendi. He has also seized the opportunity to use the media to counter what he believes to be negative bias against his religion. Brother Indoril, as Grand High Magus, will be issued a certificate of Valikan right of asylum, just in case things go bad, as is the policy in "high persecution risk" scenarios.

Despite assurances of religious tolerance, the Order remains wary of Quendi officialdom, though it will of course obey all ethical laws. It is likely, though not certified for practical reasons, that all Quendi Patrians will have an understood general right of asylum in United Valik (which is heavily dominated by the Patrian Faith) on grounds of danger to their safety from known anti-Patrian sentiment in the Quendi populace.
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Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:49 pm

Zitru wrote:Nation Name: The Republic of Zitru
Population: 465 million
Government Type: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Leader: Aster Phoenix
Is he/she Patrian?: No. He's a Dragoaist
Economy: Powerhouse
Stance on the WA (it should be noted that the Order is very anti-WA in its sympathies): Not too keen on the WA, though we have joined it
Treatment of Patrians: They will be treated like every other citizen in Zitru. They'll feel like their in Heaven.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: Dragoaism (Drago - ism)
How many Patrians?: 157
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?: 2, Kavlaik and Molligan (If that's right)
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus (the new post created for foreign Patrian leaders, the highest post available on foreign soil, reporting directly to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself)?: Derkaz Ilonavic


Brother Derkaz will be appointed Grand High Magus soon and will have complete authority, subject to the Grand Master/Patriarch himself, over the two new monasteries being created in Zitru.
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Postby United Valik » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:51 pm

The Batorys wrote:Nation Name: The Batory Empire
Population: See factbook
Government Type: Matriarchal absolute monarchy, meritocratic administration, semi-federalist provinces.
Leader: Empress Vereba Batory
Is he/she Patrian? Not in the least.
Economy: What exactly are you asking here?
Stance on the WA: The Empire is not a member but has no particular opinion about the WA.
Treatment of Patrians: The Empress does not particularly care where her subjects' spiritual loyalties lie, as long as their political loyalties belong to her.
Official Religion, if any of your nation: No official religion, but the traditional pagan rites of the northwest tend to be favored by the Batory clan, with Empress Vereba being, in fact, a semi-retired priestess of the Ithtyr (goddess of lust/vengeance/earth/moroii/death)
How many Patrians? Probably around two dozen thousand.
How many Patrian communal brotherhoods do you wish created, and if so, where?Two. One in Drun (not the capital city, but the headquarters of most religions that have a presence in the Empire... if one doesn't have a presence in the holy city, one is not considered to be a 'serious' religion), the other in Sarkanotthon (the capital city of the Empire).
Who is the applicant for Grand High Magus? Vlad Irryukas.


Brother Vlad will be appointed Grand High Magus at the first convocation, to be held in Drun as the new monastery and temple are consecrated. Then he himself can consecrate the second monastery and temple in the Imperial capital.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:08 am

Germoria wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:The WA is intergalactic.

Many people don't recognize that on purpose, like me, it does not exist in my time. (personally it should stay MT because it is the World Assembly, not the Galactic Assembly.)

World can signify the entire universe and since there are FT nations that are members of the WA it is multi tech.
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