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Tipidemica
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Postby Tipidemica » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:27 pm

If flag burning is an Expression of Anarchy, then we should have a nice little flag burning get-together.
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Third Mexican Empire
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Postby Third Mexican Empire » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:40 pm

Nicksyllvania wrote:Allowing the sacred colours of the monarchy to even touch the dirt is a crime punishable by one hundred lashes of the knout.

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Postby Fatatatutti » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:45 pm

In Fatatatutti, we don't hold "things" sacred. Only the freedom and welfare of the people are sacred. The people are free to do anything that doesn't harm another person.

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Voerdeland
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Postby Voerdeland » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:50 pm

It isn't banned, but many people consider it wrong.

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Postby Rupudska » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:05 pm

Punishable by public hanging. Allowing the flag to touch the ground is punishable by 20 years in prison.
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:09 pm

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Great Kingston
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Postby Great Kingston » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:11 pm

One can burn the flag but if it causes a disturbance in public then they can be arrested for Breaching the Peace or Inciting Violence.

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The Antifascian States
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Re:Flag Burning: Freedom of Expression or Expression of Anar

Postby The Antifascian States » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:14 pm

Goltzborg wrote:In the Commonwealth of Goltzborg, anyone who is caught burning the National Cloth & Colors ( Flag ) or any other State Symbol, is charged with treason; which can result in execution if the circumstances so deserve.

What about in your nation.....can anyone burn your nation's flag or any other symbol of state without fear from govt reprisal; or instead, are all symbols of state protected as something deserving to be held sacred ??

I don't think it is an expression of anarchy, it can be but burning a national flag is often just a symbol of hatred to the government and/or country. So it isn't really an expression of anarchy, and even if it is than it also using the freedom of expression.


It is legal, and if the government is acting naughty, encouraged. If it is illegal due to the government than many would prefer to die a flag-burning martyr.
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Postby Vorond » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:20 pm

Tipidemica wrote:If flag burning is an Expression of Anarchy, then we should have a nice little flag burning get-together.


Good idea, we'll provide the beer.
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Postby The UEG-Space Command » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:25 pm

Burning the flag is not allowed and is 100% illegal, the government must show power and stop anarchy at all cost. It is only burned when it is ruined, or when it is during the death of a leader (where the flag is on the current dead leader and is burnt with him.)
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Postby The Antifascian States » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:36 pm

The UEG-Space Command wrote:Burning the flag is not allowed and is 100% illegal, the government must show power and stop anarchy at all cost. It is only burned when it is ruined, or when it is during the death of a leader (where the flag is on the current dead leader and is burnt with him.)

What if the burning of the flag was not a symbol of anarchy? Is it illegal than?
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Postby Clawdonia » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:38 pm

Completely illegal, considering we view it as a form of treason.
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Postby The UEG-Space Command » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:39 pm

The Antifascian States wrote:
The UEG-Space Command wrote:Burning the flag is not allowed and is 100% illegal, the government must show power and stop anarchy at all cost. It is only burned when it is ruined, or when it is during the death of a leader (where the flag is on the current dead leader and is burnt with him.)

What if the burning of the flag was not a symbol of anarchy? Is it illegal than?

Yes because under current stated laws, Anarchy starts when something against the government is stated. People died under the flag, and that very same flag helped stop the human race from being destroyed. Yes the government under that very same flag kidnapped children to do it, (well a part of it) but without the flag and the government behind it, the Earth would have becomed a glassed world and all life would be dead.
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The Erusean Republic
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Postby The Erusean Republic » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:57 pm

No one can burn the flag and if any one does so, they can be killed on the spot.
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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:59 pm

It's legal, but you're probably going to have rotten vegetables thrown at you by good citizens.
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Postby Veceria » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:59 pm

The Vecerian flag may be burned, but most of our citizen are too loyal and/or patriotic to do so.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:37 pm

To burn the flag would be protected free speech and 100% perfectly legal. We find it appalling how many states, including states that pretend to be civilized and recognize freedom of speech and expression, would try to ban such an act. Flag-burning is an act of rebellion anyways, banning it only adds value to the act. If no one cares, there's no longer any value in burning the flag.
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