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Abalucia
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Postby Abalucia » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:31 pm

Life Imprisonment If someone is killed. (possibly 35 years if proved none intentional)
18 years If there is no death. (pay off repair bills through community service)
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Exogenous Imperium
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Postby Exogenous Imperium » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:35 pm

Transnistria-Pridnestrovie wrote:It entirely depends on the circumstances and the what the judge/jury thinks is suitable.


I would agree with this. A possible prison sentence of months to life depending on the circumstances.

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YellowApple
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Postby YellowApple » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:48 pm

Arson in and of itself is not a crime in YellowApple, but the various results are.

An arsonist may face the following charges:

  • Vandalism, if property was damaged (punishable by 2-8 YellowApplan months* imprisonment and/or a fine proportional to the cost of repairs)
  • Murder, attempted murder, manslaughter, and/or physical assault, depending on whether or not sapients were harmed by the actions (punishable by lifetime imprisonment, or if it exceeded 16 casualties, execution)
  • Consumption of a contraband substance, if a petroleum-based fuel or an explosive substance was used in performing the act (punishable by 5-10 YellowApplan years* imprisonment)
  • Terrorism, if done for political reason (punishable by deportation upon conclusion of sentences for other crimes committed)

Also note that in YellowApple, sentence quantities stack, meaning that if an individual performed five acts of arson that resulted in damage to property consumption of contraband substance charges, that individual would receive 2-8 months* per vandalism conviction and 5-10 years* per contraband conviction, resulting in a total of 27.5 to 60 years* imprisonment and a fine equal to the amount of total damages.

* 1 YellowApplan year is roughly equal to 1.06 Gregorian years, and 1 YellowApplan month is roughly equal to 168.75 Gregorian days (OOC: If my math is right; YellowApplan chronology is based on a hexadecimal equivalent to metrically-prefixed time, i.e. kiloseconds, megaseconds, etc., as solar chronology is irrelevant in YellowApplan timekeeping)

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Yoite
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Postby Yoite » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:56 pm

We've never had an arsonist before, but the laws say that arson is punishable by 2 years in a corporate prison, and if your fire killed someone 10 years, if it killed more than one person 25 years, and thats if you can prove their death wasn't intentional, if you can't . . . .life.
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New Western Deralia
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Postby New Western Deralia » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:00 pm

About 40 years in maximum security prison. If serious or kills more than 10 people person is placed in the criminal's own house which is lit on fire. They usually survive but they suffer traumatic stress which is the main idea of the punishment.
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Helghast empire
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Postby Helghast empire » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:31 pm

A mean old man wrote:Why ... arsonists are burned to death, of course!


This

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Beringovia
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Postby Beringovia » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:46 pm

In Beringovia, arson in punishable by up to 10 years in prison which can be increased to up to 20 years in cases where it results in bodily harm to another. In cases where it results in death, the perpetrator may additionally be charged with manslaughter, or even murder death was the intended result, or if the perpretrator knew or sould have known that death would be the probable result.
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Arbites
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Postby Arbites » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:30 pm

Arsonists are sentenced to be burnt at the stake. An eye for an eye, a flame for a flame (OOC: just like the Internet).
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Minroz
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Postby Minroz » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:35 pm

The arsonist will definitely have to pay for any and all damages at the least, including harm to personal property and victim(s). If refuse to do so; jail for 10 years or sent to Gulag-style labour camps. However, if the crime is too serious for any reparations in any sorts; the arsonist will be sentenced to death.

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New Utah Americana
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Postby New Utah Americana » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:56 pm

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Velgar
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Postby Velgar » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:47 pm

5 years imprisonment

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Dystara
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Postby Dystara » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:59 pm

It depends on the building. If it's a government-owned building, we will do our best to convict the arsonist(s) and send them into the system for a good few years. If it's privately owned, it was probably part of an inter-family war, which the government keeps out of (Let Crime Fight Itself).
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The Shrailleeni Empire
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Postby The Shrailleeni Empire » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:06 pm

After trial and conviction, execution. The same with murder, and talking at the theater.
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La Dimanche
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Postby La Dimanche » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:12 pm

They are burned alive if they are 18 or older, given 25 lashes if they are 12-17, and given 5 lashes if they are under 12.

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Danmerc
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Postby Danmerc » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:14 pm

As long as no human being is harmed, a substantial fine and a few years in jail.

If a human being is harmed, the fine rises and the jail sentence lengthens.

If a citizen is KILLED...they're burned at the stake. Usually by "family members" of the deceased. :twisted:

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Victorious Decepticons
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:35 pm

Arson is completely legal from the government standpoint.

BUT:

If it's arson in the typical sense of some nutty firebug lighting up a place for kicks - the owner of the building will usually come charging out, blasters blazing, and turn the arsonist into a pile of scorched scrap.

If the arsonist does it when the owner isn't there to catch him in the act, the owner will hunt him down and then do the above. If he isn't good enough at tracking, he'll hire a private security force to do it for him - and then do the above. If he's not good enough at fighting to win such a battle, he'll get his friends to help out or hire a private security force to help with that too.

Since there is no legal process involved, vengeance may take other forms besides plain blasting. Arsonists may get back to their own homes to find that the reason the owner didn't blast him is because that owner was too busy sneaking over to the arsonist's Energon vault and blowing it up, burning the arsonist's own home down, sugaring his Energon so it seizes up his engine, or committing some other such revenge-motivated mayhem.

Most buildings that get burnt down here, however, are NOT the result of some nutty arsonist out for kicks. They're businesses, and they're burnt down or blown up by the competition, or if they're exceptionally rotten dealers, by angry ex-customers. In these cases, massive lethal street battles may break out as the corporate security forces involved fight each other (or the mob of ex-customers) until one side is the clear victor.

Arson-by-nutjob is rare here, but corporate dominance firefights are considered only slightly interesting due to their higher incidence level. If a nutjob kills someone, the deceased's friends and relatives will try to hunt him down and get revenge. If a death happens in a battle, them's the breaks - losing is a known risk of engaging in battles, and if you couldn't accept the possibility, you shouldn't have taken part in one.
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New Heathera
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Postby New Heathera » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:40 pm

Rehab and minimum 2 weeks prison with a fine.

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Acadiana
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Postby Acadiana » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:41 pm

Depending on the results of the arson, a sturdy fine in addition to anything from a few days in jail, to death by hanging.

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The Supreme Master Yuri
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Postby The Supreme Master Yuri » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:41 pm

Execution via firing squad.

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Barbarins
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Postby Barbarins » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:42 pm

A mean old man wrote:Why ... arsonists are burned to death, of course!


we do the same.but if no one is killed then we just shoot them in the head then and there and get on with our lives.
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Utianova
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Postby Utianova » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:45 pm

Arsonists are publicly executed.
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The Inritus Extraho
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Postby The Inritus Extraho » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:45 pm

I don't quite comprehend 'punishment' and 'arson' put together.
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Acadiana
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Postby Acadiana » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 pm

The Inritus Extraho wrote:I don't quite comprehend 'punishment' and 'arson' put together.


How is it so difficult to comprehend?

I. Arson is a crime.

II. Crime leads to punishment.

Extremely simple.

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Neaglia
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Postby Neaglia » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:47 pm

Under the advanced justice system of Neaglia, arsonists are held until there is a forest fire, then dropped into it via helicopter

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The Inritus Extraho
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Postby The Inritus Extraho » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:47 pm

No, no, just that there's no punishment... putting them together makes no sense, as we do not prosecute in our nation. If you build with flammable materials, that's your fault.
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