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Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:58 am**

No, the T-72 autoloader is part of the turret basket. If it wasn't, the turret would need to be locked in azimuth AND elevation to reload.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:41 am**

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
United States of PA wrote:(Image)

Designation: M1192 Infantry Fighting Vehicle
- Name: Li Tenan

Costs:
- New Production: $3.8mn

Dimensions:
- Length: 8m
- Height: 2.6m
- Width: 3.4m
- Mass: 38 tonnes
- Track Width: 600mm

Internal Systems:
- Crew: 3 + 6 dismounts
- Autoloader: General Dynamics 50(330SS)-150
- Ammunition: 450 (Main Gun) 950 (Coax)
- Transmission: General Motors Heavy Duty (6fwd, 1 rv)
- Fuel Capacity: 930L (Internal)

Powerplant: Caterpillar O-6 RB Model Turbocharged Diesel
- Power: 1,000bhp
- Displacement: 16.6 Liters
- Layout: 6 Cylinder Opposed Piston Horizontal
- Induction: Twin Turbocharged
- Fuel Consumption: ~1.6L per kilometer

Performance:
- Maximum Speed (Road): 65km/h
- Range: 580km
- Power-Weight Ratio: 26.3 hp/tonne

Armament:
- Primary: M992 Electric Chain Gun
- Coaxial: 1x 7.62x63mm General Purpose Machine Gun
- Commander: 1x 15x120mm Heavy Machine Gun
- Dischargers: 10x 70mm Grenade Launchers

Autocannon can fire both 35x228 or 50mm Supershot. Also can mount external ATGM launchers ala Bradley since i didnt specify.

needs moar firing ports

NO
Firing ports = massive fail

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:08 am**

So what's with all the two stroke engines floating around these days?

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:18 am**

Vitaphone Racing wrote:So what's with all the two stroke engines floating around these days?

If your referring to my use of Opposed Piston Engines i did it for the greater power density per liter of displacement you can get due to the lack of separate heads. Not really much else to it. If i had to do it all over again they'd likely be getting 4-stroke V8s and V12s or the like, but these are somewhat old designs of mine that im just re-posting since i haven't been on NS in like 8 months.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:37 am**

You can use opposed piston engines with a four stroke cycle without issue. Personally I'm not a fan of opposed piston engines for a myriad of reasons but if other people want to use them, that's their business. Two stroke engines, on the other hand, while looking good on paper are extremely shitty engines to have in service and I'm wondering why they're making a come back.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:40 am**

Vitaphone Racing wrote:You can use opposed piston engines with a four stroke cycle without issue. Personally I'm not a fan of opposed piston engines for a myriad of reasons but if other people want to use them, that's their business. Two stroke engines, on the other hand, while looking good on paper are extremely shitty engines to have in service and I'm wondering why they're making a come back.

In that case my good man. Would you be so kind to propose a viable alternative? Or better yet a superior one.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:43 am**

Purpelia wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:You can use opposed piston engines with a four stroke cycle without issue. Personally I'm not a fan of opposed piston engines for a myriad of reasons but if other people want to use them, that's their business. Two stroke engines, on the other hand, while looking good on paper are extremely shitty engines to have in service and I'm wondering why they're making a come back.

In that case my good man. Would you be so kind to propose a viable alternative? Or better yet a superior one.

Four stroke engines.

Unless you're building the ultimate sports car or bike and a high power to weight ratio is an absolute must, it's seriously hard to beat a four stroke.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:44 am**

Purpelia wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:You can use opposed piston engines with a four stroke cycle without issue. Personally I'm not a fan of opposed piston engines for a myriad of reasons but if other people want to use them, that's their business. Two stroke engines, on the other hand, while looking good on paper are extremely shitty engines to have in service and I'm wondering why they're making a come back.

In that case my good man. Would you be so kind to propose a viable alternative? Or better yet a superior one.

4-stroke Diesels?

Inline Diesels?

im not really so certain why he doesnt like O-P engines but there is tons of options. None of worth involve the uttering of the crap that is 2-stroke *shakes*

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:44 am**

Any further details that we could exploit and cite you as the reason why they work better? Since really, I just want a nice diesel in my tanks.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:47 am**

Purpelia wrote:Any further details that we could exploit and cite you as the reason why they work better? Since really, I just want a nice diesel in my tanks.

There's no secret behind it, every major engine maker in the world relies on four stroke engines, and did even before the harsh emissions laws of the 1970's came into effect. They don't require expensive oil, they don't burn their oil, they consume less fuel because it burns properly and they actually last a long time.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:47 am**

Purpelia wrote:Any further details that we could exploit and cite you as the reason why they work better? Since really, I just want a nice diesel in my tanks.

4-strokes are more efficient basically. You dont have the mixing of fuel/air with exhaust gases, usually less carbon buildup, more fuel efficient because it doesnt mix.

2-strokes are really only any good when you need to get up to speed fast. Because you have a powerstroke from a cylinder every revolution of the crankshaft, instead of every two like with a 4-stroke.

Theres diagrams and such on google that can explain it better than me.

EDIT: Also, to reinforce Vitaphones points, there is a reason why there are no production 2-stroke Diesels that i know of anymore. The last ones were arguably detroits and they went out of production with the start of the Series-60

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:46 am**

Ea90 wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
needs moar firing ports

NO
Firing ports = massive fail

unless the firing ports have miniguns

then its cool

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:04 pm**

What are peoples' naming conventions for their vehicles, like Germany uses big cats (Panther, Tiger, Leopard), US uses generals (Sherman, Patton, Abrams, Pershing)? I have been thinking of using various Pagan deities, so an Indra heavy tank, a Helios medium tank, etc.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:07 pm**

My naming system is satire to mock a French rival I had in a cold war thread a while back, so vaguely French/English words or animals for a Japanese themed empire.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:09 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:What are peoples' naming conventions for their vehicles, like Germany uses big cats (Panther, Tiger, Leopard), US uses generals (Sherman, Patton, Abrams, Pershing)? I have been thinking of using various Pagan deities, so an Indra heavy tank, a Helios medium tank, etc.

I just use TSTPSV [name it's sold under]

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:11 pm**

The naming system I use is basically this. The first word of the type of vehicle is used, followed up by "M" for model, and a number for which type of model it is.

For example, TM-1

Tank, model-1

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:21 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:What are peoples' naming conventions for their vehicles, like Germany uses big cats (Panther, Tiger, Leopard), US uses generals (Sherman, Patton, Abrams, Pershing)? I have been thinking of using various Pagan deities, so an Indra heavy tank, a Helios medium tank, etc.

Our current generation are named after weapons: Bradsweord (Broadsword) MBT, Gar (Spear) SPG, Scieldburh (Shieldwall) APC/IFV, Seax (Knife) GPV, and so on.

The previous generation, some of which are still in service, were named after warrior types: Ridwiga (Mounted Warrior) MBT, Scytere (Archer) SPG, Eaxlgestealla (Shoulder-Companion) APC...

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:29 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:What are peoples' naming conventions for their vehicles, like Germany uses big cats (Panther, Tiger, Leopard), US uses generals (Sherman, Patton, Abrams, Pershing)? I have been thinking of using various Pagan deities, so an Indra heavy tank, a Helios medium tank, etc.

All my tanks and assault guns are called "Armored Gun Carrier {main gun caliber} {for each of the guns}". And all my equipment always has a designation based on the year of introduction, design or something else entirely. So for example the official designation of the Vikingr III ELVIS is "Armored Gun Carrier 123mm, 40/30mm*, 7.5mm, 15.5mm Vikingr Submodel 2000 ELVIS"

* My designation for supershot 40

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:30 pm**

Registug tanks are currently named after large, flightless Australian birds

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:30 pm**

I meant nicknaming conventions, not formal naming conventions.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:31 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:I meant nicknaming conventions, not formal naming conventions.

THey are one and same here.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:32 pm**

Immoren wrote:
The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:I meant nicknaming conventions, not formal naming conventions.

THey are one and same here.

Indeed.

Also, all my tanks are called Vikingr + something. ALL of them.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:36 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:I meant nicknaming conventions, not formal naming conventions.

Then they are named after Chedastani National Saints, like Mariana, Veria, Yera, etc.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:39 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:What are peoples' naming conventions for their vehicles, like Germany uses big cats (Panther, Tiger, Leopard), US uses generals (Sherman, Patton, Abrams, Pershing)? I have been thinking of using various Pagan deities, so an Indra heavy tank, a Helios medium tank, etc.

Whatever sounds cool to the Board of Military Development.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:25 pm**

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:What are peoples' naming conventions for their vehicles, like Germany uses big cats (Panther, Tiger, Leopard), US uses generals (Sherman, Patton, Abrams, Pershing)? I have been thinking of using various Pagan deities, so an Indra heavy tank, a Helios medium tank, etc.

Large land animals. Originally big cats for light and medium tanks, and big game for heavy tanks. The first MBT designs in Carthaginian service were named after the Big Five game, but the current model, the Jaguar II, broke this convention and is actually named in honor of the original Jaguar medium tank.

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