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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Romanian Indochina » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:39 pm

There really just wasn't enough activity

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Maurepas » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:42 pm

TheCapitalWasteland wrote:why was it so bad?

They screwed Max over somethin Fierce...

and the additional features arent any better than NS1 with NSTracker and Wiki...

and they wanted me to pay them every month just to keep my custom flag...

And the "worlds" system was just retarded, and they never made good on their promise of a Military aspect to the game...

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:54 pm

TheCapitalWasteland wrote:why was it so bad?

Maybe the better questions is "What was good about it?" That list would be a lot shorter.

But let's see... why it was bad
-Clunky, slow, inefficient user interface. (Seriously, no "check all" or "delete all marked" option in the TG box?!)
-You had to pay for things you get for free on NS1. ($5 for a custom flag for a month? I've had a custom flag here for 6 years for free!)
-No WA, and Alliances were worthless, toothless replacements that were, utterly USELESS.
-Trying to micromanage the nation's stats with a random issue system. (You try to stop your population from starving when you don't get any issues about food production!)
-Unspeakably broken war/diplomacy features (Unless you set everything to neutral with everyone, your economy or food production or SOMETHING suffered irreparably for it.)
-Uncooperative, uncommunicative developers who seemed deaf to feedback from the closed alpha test where the mods all said "It's not ready!" through to the open public beta.
-Worlds or "How to prevent people from playing with friends"
-Kiss freefor roleplay goodbye with how much garbage the game tries to handle itself!
-[There was an error processing this template element]
-They screwed Max out of the money they still owe him!! :evil:
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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Kirav » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:57 pm

VICTORY AT LAST!

I knew that NS2 would fail someday! NS Classic has prevailed!

In my opinion, Classic NS is better, because:
A) It's Free
B) It leaves more room for creativity by RPing
C) It's got less crap, like Alliances
D) You can actually have fun, and not have to worry about your nation's œconomy failing every week or so.

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:21 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
TheCapitalWasteland wrote:why was it so bad?

Maybe the better questions is "What was good about it?" That list would be a lot shorter.

But let's see... why it was bad
-Clunky, slow, inefficient user interface. (Seriously, no "check all" or "delete all marked" option in the TG box?!)
-You had to pay for things you get for free on NS1. ($5 for a custom flag for a month? I've had a custom flag here for 6 years for free!)
-No WA, and Alliances were worthless, toothless replacements that were, utterly USELESS.
-Trying to micromanage the nation's stats with a random issue system. (You try to stop your population from starving when you don't get any issues about food production!)
-Unspeakably broken war/diplomacy features (Unless you set everything to neutral with everyone, your economy or food production or SOMETHING suffered irreparably for it.)
-Uncooperative, uncommunicative developers who seemed deaf to feedback from the closed alpha test where the mods all said "It's not ready!" through to the open public beta.
-Worlds or "How to prevent people from playing with friends"
-Kiss freefor roleplay goodbye with how much garbage the game tries to handle itself!
-[There was an error processing this template element]
-They screwed Max out of the money they still owe him!! :evil:

You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:24 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?

I dunno, depending on the version of the conspiracy you believe, I might even possibly BE Max! :lol2:
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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:26 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?

I dunno, depending on the version of the conspiracy you believe, I might even possibly BE Max! :lol2:

No you're not max it's Grave n Idle that's Max, he said so, well i mean i heard the black hellicopters late at night once...after he said the choppers were going somewhere...
i sleep with a nightlight now.

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby TheCapitalWasteland » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:27 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?

I dunno, depending on the version of the conspiracy you believe, I might even possibly BE Max! :lol2:

I bet you're a clone of Max who was sent to the past to destroy the real Max before he makes a deal to make nationstates2 which is really an evil organization that brainwashes nationstates2 users into thinking they are super soldiers who rule the future and cause the nuclear holocaust.

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Postby L3 Communications » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:28 pm

TheCapitalWasteland wrote:why was it so bad?


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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:31 pm

TheCapitalWasteland wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?

I dunno, depending on the version of the conspiracy you believe, I might even possibly BE Max! :lol2:

I bet you're a clone of Max who was sent to the past to destroy the real Max before he makes a deal to make nationstates2 which is really an evil organization that brainwashes nationstates2 users into thinking they are super soldiers who rule the future and cause the nuclear holocaust.

have you been watching the Watchmen again?

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Daistallia 2104 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:33 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
TheCapitalWasteland wrote:why was it so bad?

Maybe the better questions is "What was good about it?" That list would be a lot shorter.

But let's see... why it was bad
-Clunky, slow, inefficient user interface. (Seriously, no "check all" or "delete all marked" option in the TG box?!)
-You had to pay for things you get for free on NS1. ($5 for a custom flag for a month? I've had a custom flag here for 6 years for free!)
-No WA, and Alliances were worthless, toothless replacements that were, utterly USELESS.
-Trying to micromanage the nation's stats with a random issue system. (You try to stop your population from starving when you don't get any issues about food production!)
-Unspeakably broken war/diplomacy features (Unless you set everything to neutral with everyone, your economy or food production or SOMETHING suffered irreparably for it.)
-Uncooperative, uncommunicative developers who seemed deaf to feedback from the closed alpha test where the mods all said "It's not ready!" through to the open public beta.
-Worlds or "How to prevent people from playing with friends"
-Kiss freefor roleplay goodbye with how much garbage the game tries to handle itself!
-[There was an error processing this template element]
-They screwed Max out of the money they still owe him!! :evil:


And lets not forget how well they respond to criticism...

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?


Reppy's not the only one who's pissed.
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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:35 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Reppy's not the only one who's pissed.

Just one of the more vocal about it! :D
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Postby TheCapitalWasteland » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:35 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:have you been watching the Watchmen again?


Well, I have seen watchmen more than an average watchmen fan, but my inspiration for my comment came more from the terminator.

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:36 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:And lets not forget how well they respond to criticism...

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?


Reppy's not the only one who's pissed.

oh, that's a shame what's going to happen next then?

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:37 pm

TheCapitalWasteland wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:have you been watching the Watchmen again?


Well, I have seen watchmen more than an average watchmen fan, but my inspiration for my comment came more from the terminator.

oh, have you seen the most recent one?
I heard mixed reviews about that one.
yes Watchmen is a pretty well made film i approve.

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Daistallia 2104 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:38 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:And lets not forget how well they respond to criticism...

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:You seem really really pissed
Are you married to Max?


Reppy's not the only one who's pissed.

oh, that's a shame what's going to happen next then?

This: http://www.nationstates2.com/ :twisted:
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:42 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:This: http://www.nationstates2.com/ :twisted:

oooh, this is a good thing yes?

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby TheCapitalWasteland » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:43 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
TheCapitalWasteland wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:have you been watching the Watchmen again?


Well, I have seen watchmen more than an average watchmen fan, but my inspiration for my comment came more from the terminator.

oh, have you seen the most recent one?
I heard mixed reviews about that one.
yes Watchmen is a pretty well made film i approve.


No i haven't seen any of the recent films. I've seen the first three terminators. I should make a watchmen nation. How many nations are we allowed to have?

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Daistallia 2104 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:55 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:This: http://www.nationstates2.com/ :twisted:

oooh, this is a good thing yes?


That was one of the first things I checked after I got up today. Yep, it's a good thing.
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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby AP3 10 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:46 pm

Still working :eek: for me

Guess they are to incompetent to switch it off.....

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Maurepas » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:51 pm

AP3 10 wrote:Still working :eek: for me

Guess they are to incompetent to switch it off.....

It works, but you cannot "donate" anymore to keep your ambassador status, and they arent updating it any further...

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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby AP3 10 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:01 pm

:rofl:

WITP

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:03 pm

AP3 10 wrote:Still working :eek: for me

Guess they are to incompetent to switch it off.....


Heh. Well it wasn't a few hours ago.

Maurepas wrote:It works, but you cannot "donate" anymore to keep your ambassador status, and they arent updating it any further...


On July 1st, we are going to be taking the game down in order to perform substantial work on its architecture and features. This will not be a simple process and we are not able to give a definite timeline for when the game will return.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php ... st14829501

Was what they said, so yeah, they're incompetent at taking it down as well. :lol2:
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Re: Jolt closes NationStates 2

Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:04 pm

Well, it's still June 30th here.... =p
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Postby AP3 10 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:06 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Well, it's still June 30th here.... =p



They are meant to be Irish right?

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