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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:40 am

Oppressorion wrote:
Thrashia wrote:WH40K does it all the time: turns criminals into servitors (mind wiped, bodies altered to suit whatever is needed, be it shoveling shit or shooting shit) or clamping an explosive ring around their necks and a weapon in their hand and told to charge at the enemy in order to appease the Emperor for their transgressions.

Kind of inelegant, but it seems to work just fine.

Wow. By comparison, just mindwiping to restore factory settings (what we do) is pretty tame by comparison.

The process of creating servitors is probably among the least horribly disturbing things that can happen to you in the 40k universe.
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Postby Auman » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:27 am

I think Vernii made a very good point. Having just a handful of systems, or even just one in my case, gives you room to develop what you have to a far higher degree. While I haven't been too active on the forums in the last couple of years, I've spent a lot of time offline developing my nation as a setting, only adding colonies when I felt it was a good time to spare some time in developing them.

There aren't many traditional galaxy spanning empires in the Milky Way... But there are quite a few nations with galaxy spanning influence. In the past, I was capable of sending fleets to the four corners of the galaxy. The Rethast Pathogen had its tendrils wrapped around everything. The Tocrowkian Reich is another example... Alliances like the ESUS likely encompassed multiple galaxies and dimensions. The Raumreich involved itself in the business of Sol and vice versa. So, in essence, you should worry less and expand your influence.
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Postby Thrashia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:51 am

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Laurasia wrote:I am still surprised by why galaxy-spanning empires seem not to be the norm here.


Because controlling an entire galaxy is even more implausible than FTL, and far more damaging to quality RPs.


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Postby Thrashia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:52 am

Auman wrote:I think Vernii made a very good point. Having just a handful of systems, or even just one in my case, gives you room to develop what you have to a far higher degree. While I haven't been too active on the forums in the last couple of years, I've spent a lot of time offline developing my nation as a setting, only adding colonies when I felt it was a good time to spare some time in developing them.

There aren't many traditional galaxy spanning empires in the Milky Way... But there are quite a few nations with galaxy spanning influence. In the past, I was capable of sending fleets to the four corners of the galaxy. The Rethast Pathogen had its tendrils wrapped around everything. The Tocrowkian Reich is another example... Alliances like the ESUS likely encompassed multiple galaxies and dimensions. The Raumreich involved itself in the business of Sol and vice versa. So, in essence, you should worry less and expand your influence.


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Postby The Fedral Union » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:46 am

Thrashia wrote:
Auman wrote:I think Vernii made a very good point. Having just a handful of systems, or even just one in my case, gives you room to develop what you have to a far higher degree. While I haven't been too active on the forums in the last couple of years, I've spent a lot of time offline developing my nation as a setting, only adding colonies when I felt it was a good time to spare some time in developing them.

There aren't many traditional galaxy spanning empires in the Milky Way... But there are quite a few nations with galaxy spanning influence. In the past, I was capable of sending fleets to the four corners of the galaxy. The Rethast Pathogen had its tendrils wrapped around everything. The Tocrowkian Reich is another example... Alliances like the ESUS likely encompassed multiple galaxies and dimensions. The Raumreich involved itself in the business of Sol and vice versa. So, in essence, you should worry less and expand your influence.


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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:15 am

What's the opinion on having supersoldiers whose armor is powered by an energy-absorbing crystal which can, when the energy is being sucked out of it at maximum level, create a shockwave with a six-thousand-kilometer diameter?
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Postby SquareDisc City » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:20 am

Silly. That's my opinion, at least.
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Postby Thrashia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:23 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:What's the opinion on having supersoldiers whose armor is powered by an energy-absorbing crystal which can, when the energy is being sucked out of it at maximum level, create a shockwave with a six-thousand-kilometer diameter?


Depends. What "energy" is it sucking out? Electrical, thermal, electro-chemical, sound energy, kinetic, life force? Where does the "crystal" draw its energy from?

Will this shockwave be a nice pretty light suddenly shining and spreading out or are you expecting the shockwave to somehow be used for offensive purposes?

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If the sole purpose of this crystal is to create a destructive shockwave by absorbing some sort of energy from its surroundings, then it seems to me that it would be a lot better suited to being a type of bomb (or any projectile weapon) than somehow integrated with a suit of power armor.
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Postby Dreadful Sagittarius » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:23 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:What's the opinion on having supersoldiers whose armor is powered by an energy-absorbing crystal which can, when the energy is being sucked out of it at maximum level, create a shockwave with a six-thousand-kilometer diameter?


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Postby Auman » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:48 am

And the Galactic Empire ruled with an iron fist*. TFU, there are no such things as generations in this game... Just the ebb and flow of how much free time we all have. I've been inactive a few times and I always ended up coming back and doing something on a galactic scale. It's not because I'm special in any way, it's just that as an experienced role player, I know what to do to get into story arcs of some sort of galactic significance.

I.E., finding more active players with reputations and antagonizing them.
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Postby Arthropoda Ingens » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:57 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:What's the opinion on having supersoldiers whose armor is powered by an energy-absorbing crystal which can, when the energy is being sucked out of it at maximum level, create a shockwave with a six-thousand-kilometer diameter?
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:06 am

Arthropoda Ingens wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:What's the opinion on having supersoldiers whose armor is powered by an energy-absorbing crystal which can, when the energy is being sucked out of it at maximum level, create a shockwave with a six-thousand-kilometer diameter?
Underpowered.

If the energy can propagate 6,000 kilometres, what will happen to your soldiers? =]
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:15 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:What's the opinion on having supersoldiers whose armor is powered by an energy-absorbing crystal which can, when the energy is being sucked out of it at maximum level, create a shockwave with a six-thousand-kilometer diameter?


If it has that much power and you're using it just for power armor, sounds like it's being underutilized. That's like using a nuclear power station to power my iPod.
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Postby Milagro » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:39 pm

Milagro wrote:Could I get some general pointers for planetary defence platforms and orbital defence platforms? Basically things to defend my planet from foreign fleets that doesn't include the use of a navy (although I WILL have one, it probably won't be large seeing as how space exploration isn't really the top priority in my nation).

That can include planetary shielding as well, but I'm not sure if that's considering "wanking" in terms of tech.

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Postby Dreadful Sagittarius » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:48 pm

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Milagro wrote:Could I get some general pointers for planetary defence platforms and orbital defence platforms? Basically things to defend my planet from foreign fleets that doesn't include the use of a navy (although I WILL have one, it probably won't be large seeing as how space exploration isn't really the top priority in my nation).

That can include planetary shielding as well, but I'm not sure if that's considering "wanking" in terms of tech.

Help pl0x? No seriously, I have no idea how do go about this.


All depends on your tech base. My military when it comes to planetary defence relies on three areas; mobile ships under the navy, space stations armed with chemical-propellant guns, missiles, and carrying fighters for harassment, and then ground-based stations with orbital superiority missiles. However, the latter two are 'the last ditch'. They're unmoving targets, which means that my naval forces have a greater chance of surviving in combat.
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Postby Telros » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:51 pm

Milagro wrote:
Milagro wrote:Could I get some general pointers for planetary defence platforms and orbital defence platforms? Basically things to defend my planet from foreign fleets that doesn't include the use of a navy (although I WILL have one, it probably won't be large seeing as how space exploration isn't really the top priority in my nation).

That can include planetary shielding as well, but I'm not sure if that's considering "wanking" in terms of tech.

Help pl0x? No seriously, I have no idea how do go about this.


I can give you the philosophy side of planetary defenses, as for technical workings and the like, others who actually know that stuff will have to help you. Flavor determines a lot of how you want them to work, but if you want one that work as realistically in the light of dealing with FT navies, then you are going to want a lot of mobile platforms, probably satellites, that are constantly shifting and pack as much firepower as you can into them. That way the enemy has to constantly try to track them amidst electronic warfare and the chaos of a battle. Though, if its anything above an incursion, the planet will fall probably without the use of a navy. A dedicated enough force could probably fight their way through such a network, as I'm pretty sure you can go too far with how many you have with them running into each other and the like.

Also, I would argue that if you lose all orbital control, stations and any ability to do anything in orbit, your planet is already taken as is but, let's not start that discussion. If you decide to use immobile, heavy platforms ala the starbases from Sins of a Solar Empire, no one is going to jump you about it. Just keep in mind they will be soaking up huge amounts of damage due to being a big target and unless you can provide enough coverage of a planet, they can just goes to the other side of the planet and avoid it, space combat sucks like that.

As for planetary shielding, we've had Star Wars nations in the past, so yes those can be used, but usually the ones I have seen other than the SW tactic of them is purely to prevent people from throwing c-fracs at your worlds beyond engageable ranges or shots during space combat flying off to hit the planet, though that only really affects the nations who care. As long as you balance it out, such as SW having a huge shield generator which sucks up a lot of power that can be taken out or ground forces landing to take it out while the fleet deals with the ships in orbit and/or secures it until the shield is down to do more. It's all about balancing it out, having some bad with the good and all that.
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Postby Laurasia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:49 pm

FT is not for me........I want to have the opportunity to continue to develop the Laurasian Empire, and I had hoped for interaction with other powers, but it seems like I would have to scale down in order to achieve that goal. Therefore, I am going to go back to what I was before: keeping my nation in a neutral state or non-active on this game, while throwing myself into the Empire projects offline. I would prefer to develop the General History of Laurasia then to interact here. Good bye.
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Postby Vaxon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:51 pm

Laurasia wrote:FT is not for me........I want to have the opportunity to continue to develop the Laurasian Empire, and I had hoped for interaction with other powers, but it seems like I would have to scale down in order to achieve that goal. Therefore, I am going to go back to what I was before: keeping my nation in a neutral state or non-active on this game, while throwing myself into the Empire projects offline. I would prefer to develop the General History of Laurasia then to interact here. Good bye.


Hey, you don't have to scale down. Simply join my small community, the Far FT community.
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Postby Dreadful Sagittarius » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:59 pm

Laurasia wrote:FT is not for me........I want to have the opportunity to continue to develop the Laurasian Empire, and I had hoped for interaction with other powers, but it seems like I would have to scale down in order to achieve that goal. Therefore, I am going to go back to what I was before: keeping my nation in a neutral state or non-active on this game, while throwing myself into the Empire projects offline. I would prefer to develop the General History of Laurasia then to interact here. Good bye.


That's a shame, but it's probably for the best then.
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Postby The Fedral Union » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:04 pm

Auman wrote:And the Galactic Empire ruled with an iron fist*. TFU, there are no such things as generations in this game... Just the ebb and flow of how much free time we all have. I've been inactive a few times and I always ended up coming back and doing something on a galactic scale. It's not because I'm special in any way, it's just that as an experienced role player, I know what to do to get into story arcs of some sort of galactic significance.

I.E., finding more active players with reputations and antagonizing them.


You have a point there, I seek out new players and old FT powers alike, I have the time for now. But yeah GESO might not be on the scale of ESUS or the GFFA but its pretty big, all I want is folks to rp with us instead of just being one big alliance.

I remember the GE I was in it, that was a stupid thing for my nation it didn't fit my character but in hindsight I could write it in to my history as a period of oppression and dictatorship followed by rebellion and the destruction of my first home world. I was always its blunt instrument.
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:04 pm

Dreadful Sagittarius wrote:
Laurasia wrote:FT is not for me........I want to have the opportunity to continue to develop the Laurasian Empire, and I had hoped for interaction with other powers, but it seems like I would have to scale down in order to achieve that goal. Therefore, I am going to go back to what I was before: keeping my nation in a neutral state or non-active on this game, while throwing myself into the Empire projects offline. I would prefer to develop the General History of Laurasia then to interact here. Good bye.


That's a shame, but it's probably for the best then.

How come you never say such kind words to me? :p

You don't need to RP your whole nation as a unit. You could easily RP a portion of your nation proportionable to the general size.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:11 pm

Vaxon wrote:
Laurasia wrote:FT is not for me........I want to have the opportunity to continue to develop the Laurasian Empire, and I had hoped for interaction with other powers, but it seems like I would have to scale down in order to achieve that goal. Therefore, I am going to go back to what I was before: keeping my nation in a neutral state or non-active on this game, while throwing myself into the Empire projects offline. I would prefer to develop the General History of Laurasia then to interact here. Good bye.


Hey, you don't have to scale down. Simply join my small community, the Far FT community.
TG me for more information.

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:32 pm

Vaxon wrote:
Laurasia wrote:FT is not for me........I want to have the opportunity to continue to develop the Laurasian Empire, and I had hoped for interaction with other powers, but it seems like I would have to scale down in order to achieve that goal. Therefore, I am going to go back to what I was before: keeping my nation in a neutral state or non-active on this game, while throwing myself into the Empire projects offline. I would prefer to develop the General History of Laurasia then to interact here. Good bye.


Hey, you don't have to scale down. Simply join my small community, the Far FT community.
TG me for more information.

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Postby The Laxus Union » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:59 pm

Is 45 star systems to you all considered godmodding? I say no if its taken much time to colonize, you have great management skills, and a beneficial political system for your planets as a whole. I'm told off and on that I'm a crazy godmodder and should stick with one system. See, the thing is, my canon shows that my nation is heavily involved and interested in colonization for many purposes. Is rather not stick with one star system do to this. What are some opinions of yours and please no putting me down. There is no reason for it. Especially since its just a thread on a forum of an internet political simulation game.


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Postby Laurasia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:10 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Vaxon wrote:
Hey, you don't have to scale down. Simply join my small community, the Far FT community.
TG me for more information.

Laurasia, whatever you do, whatever you may think of people telling you to downsize, whatever strange and cyclopean dreams may beset you, whatever eldritch voices whisper in your ears, though the stars may fade and the sky grow dark, though the earth itself be torn asunder and every god past and future cry out to you, do not join Vaxon.


Why should I not join Vaxon? Is he a godmodder? Or is his material implausible?
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