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THE Grob
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Founded: Jan 14, 2020
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Postby THE Grob » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:33 am

Thank you for the votes! Wait, we can discuss the meaning of our flags?

Uh... is it bad to say that I don't really have a meaning for my flag in character? What I can tell you is that I wanted a very distinguishable but simple to draw flag that works somewhat well in b&w. Most of the flag is nothing but aesthetics tbh but I wanted a very nice looking flag. I could actually show some images of old flag designs for the Grox if you guys would be interested in that? Not gonna submit it to the contest but just a comparison.
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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:38 am

The Grob wrote:Thank you for the votes! Wait, we can discuss the meaning of our flags?

Uh... is it bad to say that I don't really have a meaning for my flag in character? What I can tell you is that I wanted a very distinguishable but simple to draw flag that works somewhat well in b&w. Most of the flag is nothing but aesthetics tbh but I wanted a very nice looking flag. I could actually show some images of old flag designs for the Grox if you guys would be interested in that? Not gonna submit it to the contest but just a comparison.


I'm not going to add a description for a flag to the OP during or after it's being voted on, although you can discuss it. If you have a description for your coat of arms I will add that.

And no problem if there isn't official meaning on your flag. Having official meaning helps, but if you don't have official meaning then your flag can stand on its beauty alone.
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Satuga
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Ex-Nation

Postby Satuga » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:52 am

Ooh flag descriptions, alright I'll bite. Here's what my flag is supposed to represent using a quick little history lesson:

Satuga was once a country ruled by an iron fist, corruption, political sabotage, and "disappearances" ran rampant. However a fatal error was made by the corrupt rulers of Satuga. They thought even if their shady happenings were revealed the public would stay quiet out of fear, this turned out to be a special case. A man identified only as "the Igniter" stood in protest against the government, and you can imagine how well that went. The government sent troops over to "dispatch" the protester. Though instead of allowing himself to be taken or killed by them, he took the Thích Quang Duc route, dousing himself in lighter fluid, and a thin layer of metal. When the troops decided to end it by killing him to set an example, the bullet hit the metal plating, igniting fluid he had lathered onto his body. He was killed instantly, but his body burst into flames. This outraged the public, with more courageous folk taking it upon themselves to create the "Satugan Liberators" an underground organization dedicated to overthrowing the tyrannical regime. Long story short, after many leaders of the Satugan Liberators had been captured and executed, many more took their place. In the end the revolution garnered so much support that a majority of the population had been a part of it. The revolution finally ended when the tyrannical leader was overthrown violently, and executed in the streets.
When creating a new government and nation it took a very long time to decide on the flag structure, the people wanted something unique, and powerful. Then one of them suggested a Hydra, to represent the many times the freedom fighters leadership had been killed only to be replaced, as well to show that no matter what happens the people will always fight. And thus the flag and symbolsim of Satuga was created.
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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:56 am

Satuga wrote:Ooh flag descriptions, alright I'll bite. Here's what my flag is supposed to represent using a quick little history lesson:

Satuga was once a country ruled by an iron fist, corruption, political sabotage, and "disappearances" ran rampant. However a fatal error was made by the corrupt rulers of Satuga. They thought even if their shady happenings were revealed the public would stay quiet out of fear, this turned out to be a special case. A man identified only as "the Igniter" stood in protest against the government, and you can imagine how well that went. The government sent troops over to "dispatch" the protester. Though instead of allowing himself to be taken or killed by them, he took the Thích Quang Duc route, dousing himself in lighter fluid, and a thin layer of metal. When the troops decided to end it by killing him to set an example, the bullet hit the metal plating, igniting fluid he had lathered onto his body. He was killed instantly, but his body burst into flames. This outraged the public, with more courageous folk taking it upon themselves to create the "Satugan Liberators" an underground organization dedicated to overthrowing the tyrannical regime. Long story short, after many leaders of the Satugan Liberators had been captured and executed, many more took their place. In the end the revolution garnered so much support that a majority of the population had been a part of it. The revolution finally ended when the tyrannical leader was overthrown violently, and executed in the streets.
When creating a new government and nation it took a very long time to decide on the flag structure, the people wanted something unique, and powerful. Then one of them suggested a Hydra, to represent the many times the freedom fighters leadership had been killed only to be replaced, as well to show that no matter what happens the people will always fight. And thus the flag and symbolsim of Satuga was created.


Added! Nice description.
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Aurevbush
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Aurevbush » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:48 am

The Grob, it's simple and clean.
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Haruhi Japan
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:42 pm

I'm not really sure how to explain my flags but let's just say that William Afton (AKA: Purple Guy) has done some pretty messed up things in his life and he feels nothing but sorrow and regret for what he did to the 5 missing children. Basically, just read up on the lore behind FNAF and then come back and tell me what you think. Also I know my GIFs aren't very flag like and they are not supposed to represent a nation or anything like that so if anything just judge it by aesthetic and don't take it too seriously as it is just from a game and doesn't represent a real person or my beliefs in any way.
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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:45 pm

Haruhi Japan wrote:I'm not really sure how to explain my flags but let's just say that William Afton (AKA: Purple Guy) has done some pretty messed up things in his life and he feels nothing but sorrow and regret for what he did to the 5 missing children. Basically, just read up on the lore behind FNAF and then come back and tell me what you think.

Making this the description for all 4 of your flags.
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Haruhi Japan
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Haruhi Japan » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:47 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
Haruhi Japan wrote:I'm not really sure how to explain my flags but let's just say that William Afton (AKA: Purple Guy) has done some pretty messed up things in his life and he feels nothing but sorrow and regret for what he did to the 5 missing children. Basically, just read up on the lore behind FNAF and then come back and tell me what you think.

Making this the description for all 4 of your flags.

Thanks! :)
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Ssejekistan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ssejekistan » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm

Is it too late to submit my flag?
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Kredevtai Rebuplëkë igu Ssejekëtsya or
People's Republic of Ssejekistan
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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:58 pm

Ssejekistan wrote:Is it too late to submit my flag?


Late but not too late. Yours has been added.

If you have any other puppet flags to submit there is still 1 open spot.

Anyone else who wants to submit their flag late, do so quickly and only submit 1 flag, as there is only 1 open spot left.
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Ssejekistan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ssejekistan » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:04 pm

I would like to submit the flag of Oysen Empire, if it is possible.

Also, here's the description of my flag:

The current flag was adopted after the Second Serican Occupation, to rejoice at our freedom. The blue represents the sky, justice, and liberation. The green represents hope and the forests. The white represents the snow on Ssejekistan's mountaintops. The flame emblem in the middle is a symbol of Ssejekistani polytheism. The stars were added later, as a remembrance of Ssejekistan's time being oppressed by the Daryet Union.
White but not Caucasian. My religion is kinda sus.

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People's Republic of Ssejekistan
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Strahcoin
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Ex-Nation

Postby Strahcoin » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:04 pm

Voted for Nucleous Union because that's my own, even though The Grob's flag also looks great

Descriptions for my other two flags:
For the flag of the Republic of Strahcoin: The current leader of the nation, who was born in America, somehow ended up on the land, saved a starving tribe, and established a constitutional capitalist republic that continues to prosper. The blue, red, and white stripes represent the nation's loyalty and patriotism to America and its values (even though it's an independent nation), while the yellow coin (supposed to be a Strahcoin, the currency of the nation) and the brown briefcase represent its devotion to free-market capitalism. The lightning bolt represents the nation's support for science and innovation, which (along with the capitalism) helped the people here from struggling to feed themselves to enjoying modern to futuristic luxuries.

For the flag of the Socialist Federation of Ergoslatic: Before the Ergoslatic Revolution, Ergoslatic was an empire led by an absolute monarchy. However, not many were happy with this. The current leader of Ergoslatic - Joleneir Pytoun - organized the Ergoslatic Revolution to overthrow the monarchy and establish socialism. The revolutionaries succeeded, and the Empire of Ergoslatic became the Socialist Federation of Ergoslatic. This new economic system is represented by the seven stars on the flag (there are also seven federated states in Ergoslatic), with red representing revolution and bloodshed. The burning Strahcoin was added on the right to show Ergoslatic's contempt for the constitutional capitalist republic and its intent to overthrow the right-wing across the world.
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The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Sorry about that Renascento. If I ever do this again I will try to remember to accept descriptions for flags right away. I just didn't really think of that at time of making this.


It's fine, I don't really mind it much.


Anyhow, I cast my vote for The Grob/Grox. Both flags are very original takes on a national flag and simplistic enough to be practical for daily use. Though personally, both flags aren't my cup of tea (but that only made it harder to be subjective), but Grob/Grox have their whole 'Dalek-esque' theme going on which shows on their flag.

The Nucleous Union jack... sort of falls flat. Sorry, mate. I get the nuclear trefoil's meaning, the green might signify leftover radiation or nature, and the purple stripes symbolize... death, maybe? (I recognize a MSPaint flag when I see one, though). It needs some more polish, is what I'm saying, but within character its poor-man's look does work.
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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:11 pm

Ssejekistan wrote:I would like to submit the flag of Oysen Empire, if it is possible.

Also, here's the description of my flag:

The current flag was adopted after the Second Serican Occupation, to rejoice at our freedom. The blue represents the sky, justice, and liberation. The green represents hope and the forests. The white represents the snow on Ssejekistan's mountaintops. The flame emblem in the middle is a symbol of Ssejekistani polytheism. The stars were added later, as a remembrance of Ssejekistan's time being oppressed by the Daryet Union.

Added the flag and the description!
Strahcoin wrote:Voted for Nucleous Union because that's my own, even though The Grob's flag also looks great

Descriptions for my other two flags:
For the flag of the Republic of Strahcoin: The current leader of the nation, who was born in America, somehow ended up on the land, saved a starving tribe, and established a constitutional capitalist republic that continues to prosper. The blue, red, and white stripes represent the nation's loyalty and patriotism to America and its values (even though it's an independent nation), while the yellow coin (supposed to be a Strahcoin, the currency of the nation) and the brown briefcase represent its devotion to free-market capitalism. The lightning bolt represents the nation's support for science and innovation, which (along with the capitalism) helped the people here from struggling to feed themselves to enjoying modern to futuristic luxuries.

For the flag of the Socialist Federation of Ergoslatic: Before the Ergoslatic Revolution, Ergoslatic was an empire led by an absolute monarchy. However, not many were happy with this. The current leader of Ergoslatic - Joleneir Pytoun - organized the Ergoslatic Revolution to overthrow the monarchy and establish socialism. The revolutionaries succeeded, and the Empire of Ergoslatic became the Socialist Federation of Ergoslatic. This new economic system is represented by the seven stars on the flag (there are also seven federated states in Ergoslatic), with red representing revolution and bloodshed. The burning Strahcoin was added on the right to show Ergoslatic's contempt for the constitutional capitalist republic and its intent to overthrow the right-wing across the world.

Added the descriptions, once again they are great!


New submissions are now absolutely CLOSED and will be denied. You may or may not have another chance to join after the bracket ends two months from now. I will still accept requests to update or add descriptions to already submitted flags THAT HAVE NOT BEEN VOTED ON.
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Diarcesia » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:27 pm

Description for the Chrysolynx (main flag)

OP: I like people to guess before they read the meaning of the flags, can they be spoilered separately?
Diarcesia wrote:"The lynx symbolizes the Barrier, the Salvation, the Mark of Endurance, for our founder Arcesius was delivered from an arrow that would have ended his life by this creature as he was hunted down by his so-called friends. The red symbolizes the sacrifice, the new overcoming the old, the Sea of Blood, for this is the price that the Mark of Endurance paid to ensure Arcesius's survival. The First Monarch took the Creature with him, healed its scars, and became his loyal companion."


Conspiracy theory involving the flag:
Diarcesia wrote:...the X-Dossiers has exposed a second conspiracy, this time involving the House of Arkess, who it claims has been hiding the truth about the Diarcesian Unification for years. If true, this would mean that even though the Monarchy has claimed otherwise, the father of the First Monarch is actually the real author of the Diarcesian flag, as well as other symbols and devices associated with the Monarchy.

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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:34 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Description for the Chrysolynx (main flag)

OP: I like people to guess before they read the meaning of the flags, can they be spoilered separately?
Diarcesia wrote:"The lynx symbolizes the Barrier, the Salvation, the Mark of Endurance, for our founder Arcesius was delivered from an arrow that would have ended his life by this creature as he was hunted down by his so-called friends. The red symbolizes the sacrifice, the new overcoming the old, the Sea of Blood, for this is the price that the Mark of Endurance paid to ensure Arcesius's survival. The First Monarch took the Creature with him, healed its scars, and became his loyal companion."


Conspiracy theory involving the flag:
Diarcesia wrote:...the X-Dossiers has exposed a second conspiracy, this time involving the House of Arkess, who it claims has been hiding the truth about the Diarcesian Unification for years. If true, this would mean that even though the Monarchy has claimed otherwise, the father of the First Monarch is actually the real author of the Diarcesian flag, as well as other symbols and devices associated with the Monarchy.

Added! Unfortunately nested spoilers are not allowed, so I can't spoiler them separately without ruining the pre-existing formatting, but I have included a disclaimer at the beginning of the description.
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:38 am

Top 64 Match 2 is over. Result: The Grob - NS Flag defeats Nucleous Union (submitted by Strahcoin) 28-5.

Congratulations to The Grob on making it into the top 32. Strahcoin still has 2 submissions that could reach the the top 32; the next one, Ergoslatic, will go to a vote in Match 8.



Top 64 Match 3: Drongonia - Main flag vs Renascento - Wartime flag
Vote for your favorite and debate in the thread! Prior submitters, remember you can now submit descriptions for flags that haven't gone yet, so do that soon!
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The Twisted Eight/El Retorcido is obviously a symbol of eternity, wealth (it's gold and purple), and the manifold nature of the faith. Outside, it's just Blasphemous's arc symbol, telling all of the main inspiration for my nation.


My opinion: I think I'm going to go for Renascento as I did in Match 1. Although I think Drongonia's color scheme is easier on the eyes, I do think that the composition of Renascento's flag feels better. This is another difficult round though, as both are excellently made flags.
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Postby Slavakino » Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:53 am

Heres mine for your future endeavours

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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:58 am

Slavakino wrote:Heres mine for your future endeavours


Sorry Slavakino, you're too late. All 64 spots in the competition are already full.

There are about 59 days left in the competition assuming everything goes smoothly, then you may submit your flag for the next bracket. I think it could win some votes!
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Ex-Nation

Postby Konolas » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:01 am

Looks like im late to subbmit
Damnit

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-Astoria
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby -Astoria » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:13 am

Konolas wrote:Looks like im late to subbmit
Damnit

It'll be over in about two months, don't worry.

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Postby -Astoria » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:14 am

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Top 64 Match 3: Drongonia - Main flag vs Renascento - Wartime flag
Vote for your favorite and debate in the thread! Prior submitters, remember you can now submit descriptions for flags that haven't gone yet, so do that soon!

Wouldn't it be better to put the flag images in the post, instead of us having to go back to the first page & trawl for them?

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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:16 am

-Astoria wrote:
The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:Top 64 Match 3: Drongonia - Main flag vs Renascento - Wartime flag
Vote for your favorite and debate in the thread! Prior submitters, remember you can now submit descriptions for flags that haven't gone yet, so do that soon!

Wouldn't it be better to put the flag images in the post, instead of us having to go back to the first page & trawl for them?

Good idea! Editing.
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Postby THE Grob » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:37 am

Considering about redesigning the Grox's coat of arms to be more interesting. It's just a cyborg eye and it likely wouldn't go well up against an actual flag.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:40 am

The Grob wrote:Considering about redesigning the Grox's coat of arms to be more interesting. It's just a cyborg eye and it likely wouldn't go well up against an actual flag.


You can update the coat of arms submission before Match 20 when it goes to a vote, but you cannot update the submission for your main (NS) flag as the voters already decided that that specific version will go to the top 32.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Aurevbush » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:05 pm

While I applaud the Renascento's idea of a figure 8 as a symbol, Drogonia takes it all home, with its colors blending in very well with the dividing white lines, plus symbols are easy to the eye and quite simple.
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