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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:48 am

Pending symbolism.

Pending positions.
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:15 pm

We have got to start figuring things out. Let's see, things we need to do:

1. Make sure every character is in the Character Database.
2. Submit a party app for PFNS.
3. Establish party symbolism.
4. Estabkidh party positions.

Firstly, could everybody give a quick description of their characters?

Lance Darrow was an American who founded a small business by the name of Vision United. After a large, mysterious investment, he built up the company before selling it to Apple. He then moved to the island and used his fame as owner of Vision United to win an election for MP. He's an alcoholic and (this hasn't been revealed yet) a drug addict. Under normal circumstances, he is vibrant, sarcastic, and positive, but can become irritable while being influenced by various substances.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:58 pm

Rebels and Saints wrote:We have got to start figuring things out. Let's see, things we need to do:

1. Make sure every character is in the Character Database.
2. Submit a party app for PFNS.
3. Establish party symbolism.
4. Estabkidh party positions.

Firstly, could everybody give a quick description of their characters?

Lance Darrow was an American who founded a small business by the name of Vision United. After a large, mysterious investment, he built up the company before selling it to Apple. He then moved to the island and used his fame as owner of Vision United to win an election for MP. He's an alcoholic and (this hasn't been revealed yet) a drug addict. Under normal circumstances, he is vibrant, sarcastic, and positive, but can become irritable while being influenced by various substances.


Henry John Wallstone Sr. is a strongman and a populist, a demagogue in every sense of the word. He is born to a rich British-descended family known as the Wallstones, who collectively own $100 billion in assets and in holdings. He is the current CEO of Wallstone Industries, which has a market cap of $651 billion (for reference, that's about halfway between Amazon and Facebook). In fact, the company is so powerful it is a major source for the American military, and the number one source for the British, French, German and Saint Hildan militaries.

EDIT: He is often rash and harsh in his policy, and is seen to be strong and able to fight anyone into oblivion. He is an old-school technocrat, a neoliberal and effectively the manifestation of the pseudo-anti-establishment. He isn't one for grand plans, but prefers to improvise and adapt to the situation, like a meandering river.
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Postby Terra Helvetica Order » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:46 pm

i can make the logo if u want
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:51 pm

Terra Helvetica Order wrote:i can make the logo if u want


Go ahead and work on it.

Seriously, is somebody doing the party app? I'd be willing to do it, but I wasn't one of the original people who made theparty. I joined late at a recommendation, so I still don't know for sure what our party supports, beyond the fact that it's right-wing..
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Postby Terra Helvetica Order » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:00 am

how do you want the logo
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Postby Terra Helvetica Order » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:16 am

Do you want a flag?

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:22 am

Terra Helvetica Order wrote:Do you want a flag?

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Here's a proposal:

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Postby Terra Helvetica Order » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:27 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Terra Helvetica Order wrote:Do you want a flag?

I need to know

Here's a proposal:

Image

I will mix it with this: Image
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:12 pm

Terra Helvetica Order wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Here's a proposal:

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I will mix it with this: Image

It looks sorta like a bull. I think the current one is better tbh. Also, is it fine if I declare myself chairman of the party?
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:18 pm

Some proposals:

Our motto should be "No Victory Without Sacrifice" "All men and all nations, under Saint Hildan rule."

We should take an economic stance approximately 10, 6 on the political compass. We need to present ourselves as right-populists and not as fascists.
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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Some proposals:

Our motto should be "No Victory Without Sacrifice" "All men and all nations, under Saint Hildan rule."

We should take an economic stance approximately 10, 6 on the political compass. We need to present ourselves as right-populists and not as fascists.


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Tupolite wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Some proposals:

Our motto should be "No Victory Without Sacrifice" "All men and all nations, under Saint Hildan rule."

We should take an economic stance approximately 10, 6 on the political compass. We need to present ourselves as right-populists and not as fascists.


Well, I'm out of here already

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Postby Rebels and Saints » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:02 pm

Tupolite wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Some proposals:

Our motto should be "No Victory Without Sacrifice" "All men and all nations, under Saint Hildan rule."

We should take an economic stance approximately 10, 6 on the political compass. We need to present ourselves as right-populists and not as fascists.


Well, I'm out of here already


Not that we aren't fascist. Just that we're trying to present ourselves as non-fsscist.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:08 pm

Rebels and Saints wrote:
Tupolite wrote:
Well, I'm out of here already


Not that we aren't fascist. Just that we're trying to present ourselves as non-fsscist.

I'm trying to tame the fascists myself. I need to take charge of this party and make it look more moderate.
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:10 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
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Not that we aren't fascist. Just that we're trying to present ourselves as non-fsscist.

I'm trying to tame the fascists myself. I need to take charge of this party and make it look more moderate.


Lance isn't moderate by a long shot. He's also drunk and/or high most of the time. Plus, he's already announced support for Legislative Bill 88 and he nominated the politician who proposed it for Speaker.

So, we've got a lot of backpedaling to do if you really want to be more moderate.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:30 pm

Rebels and Saints wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I'm trying to tame the fascists myself. I need to take charge of this party and make it look more moderate.


Lance isn't moderate by a long shot. He's also drunk and/or high most of the time. Plus, he's already announced support for Legislative Bill 88 and he nominated the politician who proposed it for Speaker.

So, we've got a lot of backpedaling to do if you really want to be more moderate.

HELL NO. VOTE AGAINST BILL 88 OR I WILL WALK OUT ON YOU. YOU'RE NOT DESTROYING MY BUSINESS, DO YOU HEAR ME?
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:37 pm

I mean, it allows you to have more workers. And you don't even have to pay them.

(Also, to be fair, I don't think Lance really gives a ---- about Henry or his company, but he'd be willing to negotiate)
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:43 pm

Rebels and Saints wrote:I mean, it allows you to have more workers. And you don't even have to pay them.

(Also, to be fair, I don't think Lance really gives a ---- about Henry or his company, but he'd be willing to negotiate)

It says “Nationalise the Arms Industry”. I’m the CEO of an arms company.
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Postby Rebels and Saints » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:45 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Rebels and Saints wrote:I mean, it allows you to have more workers. And you don't even have to pay them.

(Also, to be fair, I don't think Lance really gives a ---- about Henry or his company, but he'd be willing to negotiate)

It says “Nationalise the Arms Industry”. I’m the CEO of an arms company.


Just get that amended. I'm sure it can be worked out. Besides, we both know this won't pass. Either way, doesn't your company extend outside the nation? Just move all your assets out of here.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:47 pm

Rebels and Saints wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:It says “Nationalise the Arms Industry”. I’m the CEO of an arms company.


Just get that amended. I'm sure it can be worked out. Besides, we both know this won't pass. Either way, doesn't your company extend outside the nation? Just move all your assets out of here.

It does. Most of my wealth is in Western Europe. You can’t physically move a factory though. It’s about the non-liquid assets, you see.
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Postby Mersdon » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:05 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Rebels and Saints wrote:
Just get that amended. I'm sure it can be worked out. Besides, we both know this won't pass. Either way, doesn't your company extend outside the nation? Just move all your assets out of here.

It does. Most of my wealth is in Western Europe. You can’t physically move a factory though. It’s about the non-liquid assets, you see.


Just come back; I'll edit the part about nationalizing the arms industry if you'd like
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