NSG Senate Lobby: No Hacks Here

by **Nulla Bellum** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:07 am

Malgrave wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
What blockades? What navy? What laws? What free elections? Galatea doesn't even have voter registration (yet) lol. No census to even lay the groundwork for taxation progressive or otherwise. Assuming even international recognition at this point is a massive godmod. Galatea has a history going back decades of brutal repression. And lately, more of the same, with apparently open markets for military equipment to get into civvie / terrorist hands. The only thing the Galatean gov should realistically be expecting from the international community is airstrikes on its uncontrolled military assets and ammo dumps.

Galatea has held free elections to appoint representatives to the House of Representatives and the House of Tribunes, so unless you want to claim that your own FIRE Party took part in rigged elections I don't know why you are contesting that we don't have free elections. Galatea's current situation was also negotiated by the European Union and the United Nations, and our international recognition is included in part of the history that was agreed upon by the players. You can't say that Galatea wouldn't be respected by the international community or that it would face military action because that flies against our established history.

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Except there is no potentisl warzone ofher than one the Galatean gov is trying to create.

It would be viewed as an active or potential warzone by the international community and private industry because the succession of Pochenti is currently being disputed by the Galatean government. It's why no tourist company would travel to Pochenti because they don't want to put their customers and assets at risk.

Nulla Bellum wrote:No, godmodding is pretending Galatea has a government that can tell the international community what to do with air traffic, financial systems, trade, travel, etc. and not get a reaction somewhere between being laughed at and being told to go f*** itself and how, especially given the history laid out of Galatea that presumably the internatuonal community is keenly aware of. "Help shut down a peaceful separatist because the Junta isn't around to do it anymore? Sure, let's get right on that. Sorry ISIS hang on, those f***ing Galatean libertarians are getting uppity..." Please. Just stop.

Besides, there are other Galatean cities in the National Database listing themselves as cruiseliner ports. The only big deal? I guess I meant it when I wrote it. I'm sorry I'm not your obedient drone. You may notice that nobody else in the real world is either.

You are the only one that believes that your independence movement is peaceful, the fact that you have armed men roaming the streets and snipers on top of buildings presents an entirely different picture. Galatea is perfectly entitled to inform the international community of how to deal with a separatist movement that has threatened international shipping in the Mediterranean and threatened to plunge the region into violence once again. You are just going to have to deal with the fact that the Galatean government has seized your sovereign wealth fund and garnered the support of it's allies in the European Union.

Psst. This isn't the House of Representatives where you get to totally misinterpret things into things never said and run with it. I'm only good with English, so you'll have to manage.

Or, you could just realize you're not fooling anyone, even yourself, and start roleplaying. Men on the streets with guns? They have badges and cops cars too. Because, shhhh, lean close, ready? THEY ARE COPS. Seize a sovereign wealth fund tied up in cryptocurrencies? How? From who? Men on rooftops covering government buildings? Oh lord, I shouldn't do that in response to public RP calls from terror groups and the Galatean gov to attack and seize them, because oh my, that would be RP responses to RP actions by other players. What am I falsely accused of? Make up your minds already.

Go back to the drawing board with your bullshit, please. You're babbling incoherently now.

Learn to RP already. It really isn't hard.

by **The Sarian** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:02 am

To be honest, and I know this is a fallacy, but if you're telling every single other person in the RP to learn how to RP you have to question if you're the one who doesn't know how to.

But on saying that, we could all just ignore you and pretend nothing is happening and you can just play with yourself.

by **Malgrave** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:27 am

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
Galatea has held free elections to appoint representatives to the House of Representatives and the House of Tribunes, so unless you want to claim that your own FIRE Party took part in rigged elections I don't know why you are contesting that we don't have free elections. Galatea's current situation was also negotiated by the European Union and the United Nations, and our international recognition is included in part of the history that was agreed upon by the players. You can't say that Galatea wouldn't be respected by the international community or that it would face military action because that flies against our established history.

It would be viewed as an active or potential warzone by the international community and private industry because the succession of Pochenti is currently being disputed by the Galatean government. It's why no tourist company would travel to Pochenti because they don't want to put their customers and assets at risk.

You are the only one that believes that your independence movement is peaceful, the fact that you have armed men roaming the streets and snipers on top of buildings presents an entirely different picture. Galatea is perfectly entitled to inform the international community of how to deal with a separatist movement that has threatened international shipping in the Mediterranean and threatened to plunge the region into violence once again. You are just going to have to deal with the fact that the Galatean government has seized your sovereign wealth fund and garnered the support of it's allies in the European Union.

Psst. This isn't the House of Representatives where you get to totally misinterpret things into things never said and run with it. I'm only good with English, so you'll have to manage.

Or, you could just realize you're not fooling anyone, even yourself, and start roleplaying. Men on the streets with guns? They have badges and cops cars too. Because, shhhh, lean close, ready? THEY ARE COPS. Seize a sovereign wealth fund tied up in cryptocurrencies? How? From who? Men on rooftops covering government buildings? Oh lord, I shouldn't do that in response to public RP calls from terror groups and the Galatean gov to attack and seize them, because oh my, that would be RP responses to RP actions by other players. What am I falsely accused of? Make up your minds already.

Go back to the drawing board with your bullshit, please. You're babbling incoherently now.

Learn to RP already. It really isn't hard.

You can call them police officers but that doesn't change the fact they are really just goons with guns that are cosplaying as law enforcement, and as I said ealier (and multiple times before) the sovereign wealth fund was seized because of your earlier entry into piracy. It also takes time to transfer the assets of a sovereign wealth fund into the con of crpytocurrency (especially since no trusted financial institution would deal with a seperatist republic), unless the SVF was entirely made up of bitcoins which makes it entirely worthless as a pension fund or a replacement for taxation.

by **Malgrave** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:34 am

The Sarian wrote:To be honest, and I know this is a fallacy, but if you're telling every single other person in the RP to learn how to RP you have to question if you're the one who doesn't know how to.

But on saying that, we could all just ignore you and pretend nothing is happening and you can just play with yourself.

Yep. It is looking like a great option at this point.

by **Nulla Bellum** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:12 am

Malgrave wrote:
The Sarian wrote:To be honest, and I know this is a fallacy, but if you're telling every single other person in the RP to learn how to RP you have to question if you're the one who doesn't know how to.

But on saying that, we could all just ignore you and pretend nothing is happening and you can just play with yourself.

Yep. It is looking like a great option at this point.

So, just for the record, you want to ragequit because you can't godmod over your inability to RP, or you want to ragequit because you can't RP without godmodding?

I've shown the accusations that I don't alllow non-godmodding to affect my RP and the accusations that I've ignored everything but godmodding in RP to both be false. You'd rend your garments and sit in ashes and wail if you had to accept even 1% of the shitty RPing towards me and mine that I've allowed to be canon, and you know it. That's what burns you the most, isn't it? Yes, yes it is..

So, which of you want to concede to Merizoc that the game is dead? You've worked so so very hard to kill it.

by **NSG Senate Administrators** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:30 am

The admins are in a discussion at this point about what will be officially considered canon in the past few days, given the amount of ignoring going around potentially creating totally conflicting timelines. For now please don't argue with each other on the subject, or at least do so more civilly (particularly NB has been close to flaming/baiting imo).

~Archism

by **Malgrave** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:39 am

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
Yep. It is looking like a great option at this point.

So, just for the record, you want to ragequit because you can't godmod over your inability to RP, or you want to ragequit because you can't RP without godmodding?

I've shown the accusations that I don't alllow non-godmodding to affect my RP and the accusations that I've ignored everything but godmodding in RP to both be false. You'd rend your garments and sit in ashes and wail if you had to accept even 1% of the shitty RPing towards me and mine that I've allowed to be canon, and you know it. That's what burns you the most, isn't it? Yes, yes it is..

You keep on claiming that people are godmodding but I don't think you know what it means. I (or anyone else) aren't godmodding when they say that financial institutions wouldn't want to deal with your separatist republic because they don't like to get involved in these types of disputes, and it's not godmodding to say that the wealth fund created could be seized by the Galatean government since the separatists threatened to use it for piracy/terrorism (letter of marque + private militia)..and technically it belongs to the local government anyway. It also isn't godmodding to say that the tourism industry in your republic would be dead and that those cruise liners aren't docked in port or sending any customers your way any time soon, since companies don't send their assets and customers into disputed territories because they don't want to put them at risk. It's also not godmodding to say that Galatea has an internationally respected government because our current system was negotiated by the EU/UN and we've had two fair and free elections.

I am tempted to ignore this entire situation because you've personally insulted several people over the past few days and you've consistently attempted to ignore every response to your successionist movement. Even FAG has rewritten their initial attack and attempted to reach a compromise and I suggest that you communicate with them over telegramm or discord to try and move forward.

As for RP experience and accepting bullshit? I've been part of the RP community on this website for a few years now and I am currently in the middle of some interesting adventures, alongside being in an active RP region. As someone that had to deal with the chaos of Aurentine I have also had to deal with a lot of crap so you're wrong on those counts

by **Nulla Bellum** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:46 am

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:The admins are in a discussion at this point about what will be officially considered canon in the past few days, given the amount of ignoring going around potentially creating totally conflicting timelines. For now please don't argue with each other on the subject, or at least do so more civilly (particularly NB has been close to flaming/baiting imo).

~Archism

Here's a compromise. I'll stop adding to the game if y'all stop falsely advertising this clique as a government simulation RP welcome to new players.

by **NSG Senate Administrators** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:56 am

Alright, there is a majority opinion among the Admins on the following topics.

On the cruise liners, it is highly unlikely a cruise line would be negligent enough to sail into disputed territory which might erupt into violence. The cruise liners are retconned in their entirety and never entered the waters of Pochenti or Galatea.

On the Free Army of Galatea, they do exist and can not be ignored, unless they directly godmode someone's characters.

The Senate is a different kind of Roleplay to P2TM or International Incidents. You never own your locations here because this is a communal, collaborative exercise in worldbuilding and roleplaying. It's important for this collaboration that the timeline of events remain clear and consistent based on who you ask. It's also important that while silliness often happens and can be ignored, if someone comes in and engages in RP in a way that doesn't conflict with the facade of realism or directly godmode other players' characters, it can't be hand-waved away. That's why Pochenti's declaration of independence was not simply ignored, and it's why the Free Army of Galatea for example won't be either.

~Archism

by **Maklohi Vai** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:15 pm

*admin hat on*

To briefly comment on the above, you don't own your locations ICly, but you do own the threads which you've OP'd, the same way that the Senate Admins own the Lobby, Chamber, and other threads communal to the RP.

Also, the warnings we've been giving out have been unofficial up until this point in Galatea. There is no guarantee that future warnings will remain as such.

by **The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:41 pm

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=435912&p=33744262#p33744262 This week's voting in the House of Representatives begins. Remember, not only do you want your say on legislation, activity for the sake of parliamentary diagrams is measured by votes, so get whipping!

by **Roosevetania** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:20 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:Telephones in fire departments in every city in Galatea are ringing off the hooks, overwhelmed with thousands of residential and commercial reports of dumpster fires blazing everywhere.

Abandoned warehouses and condemned structures all across Galatea are going up in flames. Fire department responses are disorganized and overwhelmed. Across the nation, water pressure for sewage and plumbing and fire hydrants are crippled.

Steel tow chains are thrown across power lines in random locations across Galatea, causing electrical short circuits and transformers to explode, plunging large swaths of Galatea into darkness and chaos as electricity is denied.

Between cities, roadways are being blocked by downed trees and burning cars.

Incendiary bombs explode in the mailrooms and offices of the Nation, Coros Report, GBS News, Believe it or Not, Truth Magazine, and other media outlets.

A massive truck bomb explodes at St. Theogenes Hospital in Coros, crumbling the hospital and trapping thousands under rubble.

Crylante wrote:a man shoots nb rip lol

Lamaredia wrote:
Crylante wrote:a man shoots nb rip lol

a woman shoots the man who shot nb and goes "oh shit missclick lol" and shoots nb

Knock it off, y'all. Crappy one-liners do not attract new members, and they're no fun.

by **Bigoted** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:34 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:Telephones in fire departments in every city in Galatea are ringing off the hooks, overwhelmed with thousands of residential and commercial reports of dumpster fires blazing everywhere.

Abandoned warehouses and condemned structures all across Galatea are going up in flames. Fire department responses are disorganized and overwhelmed. Across the nation, water pressure for sewage and plumbing and fire hydrants are crippled.

Steel tow chains are thrown across power lines in random locations across Galatea, causing electrical short circuits and transformers to explode, plunging large swaths of Galatea into darkness and chaos as electricity is denied.

Between cities, roadways are being blocked by downed trees and burning cars.

Incendiary bombs explode in the mailrooms and offices of the Nation, Coros Report, GBS News, Believe it or Not, Truth Magazine, and other media outlets.

A massive truck bomb explodes at St. Theogenes Hospital in Coros, crumbling the hospital and trapping thousands under rubble.

Crylante wrote:a man shoots nb rip lol

Lamaredia wrote:a woman shoots the man who shot nb and goes "oh shit missclick lol" and shoots nb

Knock it off, y'all. Crappy one-liners do not attract new members, and they're no fun.

he says while posting a one-line post.

by **Ainin** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:48 pm

May it please Your Honours:

On the first of April of the year two thousand and eighteen of our Lord, His Excellency Roode Mann, in his capacity as President of Galatea, has signed the Defence of the Republic Act into law. The President has directed that the text of the law be printed without delay in the Galatea Gazette and be registered as Public Law 2018-02 within the civil codes of Galatea.

As provided for by its text, the Defence of the Republic Act, save for section 11 thereof, is now in force throughout Galatea.

Yannis Kammenos
Press Secretary

by **The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:56 pm

New parliamentary diagram. A particularly sad showing from the official opposition, but the total number of votes cast in the chamber has remained steady. As always, below is my data for active members of each party, telegram me if you notice something incorrect.

Note, I've finally stopped tracking the communist senators separately, there has been no indication that a new party will be set up to replace the last one so they are now being counted as independents.

by **FreYhill** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:02 pm

HAIL ISRAEL

I HAVE RETURNED

gossip girls xoxo

by **Martune** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:11 pm

FreYhill wrote:HAIL ISRAEL

I HAVE RETURNED

gossip girls xoxo

I've missed you!!!

by **Nulla Bellum** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:31 pm

https://youtu.be/MGmdjwUkuUE

ban copper and balls of yarn

24/7 security on every utility pole

by **Martune** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:34 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:https://youtu.be/MGmdjwUkuUE

ban copper an balls of yarn

~~admin hat on~~
Suspended right?

by **NSG Senate Administrators** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:35 pm

To clarify, NB, you have been suspended from posting in ANY thread owned by this account. Please do not do so again.

~Archism

by **Kyrusia** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:09 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:https://youtu.be/MGmdjwUkuUE

ban copper and balls of yarn

24/7 security on every utility pole

You've been told to stop posting in the OP's threads, twice. Don't post again.

by **Nulla Bellum** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:02 pm

I don't intend to. I thought it was a roleplaying game, and I was mistaken. Suckered by false advertising and all that.

by **Lamaredia** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:15 pm

Wow...

by **Tectonix** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:25 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:I don't intend to. I thought it was a roleplaying game, and I was mistaken. Suckered by false advertising and all that.

Just gonna keep this, in case it's ever needed...

by **Kyrusia** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:28 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:I don't intend to. I thought it was a roleplaying game, and I was mistaken. Suckered by false advertising and all that.

Nulla Bellum: *** Warning for harassment. *** Do not post in this thread again. Do not post in any thread to which you are banned from again, or we will escalate as necessary.

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