NSG Senate Lobby: No Hacks Here

[Nulla Bellum]

Merizoc was intent to change the nature of the RP without input from the community and only did not because he was restrained from doing so by the remainder of the admin team.

You make it sound like he was taking a screwdriver to the NS servers and was only stopped when the other Admins tackled him.

[MERIZoC]

I had expected this to result in a brief lived separate thread for discussion and voting, much like how we handle admin confirmations, instead of the peculiar way it is right now.

On that point we are agreed.

To start, at multiple junctures we have seen the admin team fail to provide a suitable explanation of their actions, despite multiple and adamant insistence from members of the community, and when admins are approached independently, their responses have varied from dismissive to lashes out. While the entire admin team (excepting Arch who is too new to have encountered this problem) has been guilty of this, I have not found their behavior to quite reach the point of systemic abuses as I have with Merizoc.

Then don't approach us independently. Approach us as a whole. Your problem is with how the team operates, not with me in particular.

Merizoc had, in fact, on multiple occasions severely abused the powers he was granted in the IRC, muting, kicking, or banning it other users not for any form of misconduct, but because they were on the opposing side of an argument or just because he wanted to screw with them. To the contrary, instead of attempting to maintain a sense of order or decorum on the IRC, he has engaged in the worst of this behavior, including incidences I am unsure I can fully reference here without being accused and warned for harassment.

As Collatis has said, this is a disingenuous portrayal of normal banter that most of the OPs participate in.

The majority of bans that were cleared on the IRC were IP bans enacted to prevent people from dodging around a band with a different handle and/or login. The rebanning of NWO required the intervention of Soviet Canuckistan. The incident was also the final straw for Merizoc to be stripped of operator powers on the IRC.

If that were the case then why did Soviet_Canuckistan only de-op me after I gave him a warning, weeks after this "incident" occurred?

The charge of undue action may require sought modification, in so far as Merizoc did consult with Zurk, however he still took action without having received input from the entire admin team, which is made abundantly clear in Zurk's explaining post, nor does it excuse suppressing community action to remove a person for the community according to established precedent. To be clear, while Zurk is also guilty here of abuses, I do not currently believe his pattern of behavior reaches a threshold necessary for removal.

You seem to be confusing "a decision I disagree with" with "abuse".

In a conversation with Ainin on the IRC, Merizoc made clear his intention to move voting off site in order to establish secret ballots, and a willingness to do so over the objections and will of the community.

And again, I did not.

Overall, this pattern of behavior has demonstrated a clear apathy towards the Senate community, the RP, and the standards an admin should hold themselves to.

If I'm that apathetic, why am I an active party member, writing bills and otherwise participating? What a load of nonsense.

[Martune]

Wait what happened to Freyhill

[MERIZoC]

Wait what happened to Freyhill

He's not around anymore, but Judah seems to be alleging that I doxxed him a long time ago. This is a complete lie. He's offered no proof for this. Hell, I don't even know Freyhill's name.

[Collatis]

Freyhill doxxed Medicare. SAVE MEDICARE!

[Malgrave]

Freyhill doxxed Medicare. SAVE MEDICARE!

vote democrat - save social security

[House of Judah]

Wait what happened to Freyhill

He's not around anymore, but Judah seems to be alleging that I doxxed him a long time ago. This is a complete lie. He's offered no proof for this. Hell, I don't even know Freyhill's name.

Unfortunately, due to NS Moderator rules, I cannot address this in the full way it deserves.

[MERIZoC]

He's not around anymore, but Judah seems to be alleging that I doxxed him a long time ago. This is a complete lie. He's offered no proof for this. Hell, I don't even know Freyhill's name.

Unfortunately, due to NS Moderator rules, I cannot address this in the full way it deserves.

Or because it's a complete lie.

[Kyrusia]

If you have evidence you feel indicates a player is a threat to NS or other players, file a GHR. This is not the appropriate venue. This thread series has been informed of that repeatedly; there is no excuse to continue doing it - especially to the point dropping into one of the Senate threads seems to be becoming a near-daily occurrence regarding this exact topic.

[Roosevetania]

Ok, sorry for the really crappy quality. Also, it's hard to count independents so they're not shown. Otherwise, besides these obvious defects, new diagram:



(From left to right: CPG-M, DP, AFC, FDP, CLP, CHU, PTJ)

[Nulla Bellum]

Ok, sorry for the really crappy quality. Also, it's hard to count independents so they're not shown. Otherwise, besides these obvious defects, new diagram:

(Image)

(From left to right: CPG-M, DP, AFC, FDP, CLP, CHU, PTJ)

The CLP grew and lost our VP chair? Hmmm.

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

Sorry to co-opt Roose there, but here's all the members so far (I will start only counting active members after our first election.)
Currently needed for a majority: 25.
(Left to right, Communist Party-Maoist, Democratic Party, Alliance for Change, Free Democratic Party, Constitutional Liberal Party, Conservative Hellenic Union, Party for Tradition and Justice, Independents)
Note: Dytarma who has not joined a party since Kam dissolved the Freedom Party was counted as an independent.

[Nulla Bellum]

The chair and vice chair of the CLP have resigned and quit the party, it seems. The status of the rest of the party member allegiances is currently unknown.

[Roosevetania]

(Image)
Sorry to co-opt Roose there, but here's all the members so far (I will start only counting active members after our first election.)
Currently needed for a majority: 25.
(Left to right, Communist Party-Maoist, Democratic Party, Alliance for Change, Free Democratic Party, Constitutional Liberal Party, Conservative Hellenic Union, Party for Tradition and Justice, Independents)
Note: Dytarma who has not joined a party since Kam dissolved the Freedom Party was counted as an independent.

Thanks for making a better one, no need to apologize.

The chair and vice chair of the CLP have resigned and quit the party, it seems. The status of the rest of the party member allegiances is currently unknown.

I believe you're the only remaining member.

[Nulla Bellum]

(Image)
Sorry to co-opt Roose there, but here's all the members so far (I will start only counting active members after our first election.)
Currently needed for a majority: 25.
(Left to right, Communist Party-Maoist, Democratic Party, Alliance for Change, Free Democratic Party, Constitutional Liberal Party, Conservative Hellenic Union, Party for Tradition and Justice, Independents)
Note: Dytarma who has not joined a party since Kam dissolved the Freedom Party was counted as an independent.

Thanks for making a better one, no need to apologize.

The chair and vice chair of the CLP have resigned and quit the party, it seems. The status of the rest of the party member allegiances is currently unknown.

I believe you're the only remaining member.

Im in a coma too lol. For some reason I thought the CLP was the yellow dots. I guess it's the ancap in me...

[Ikania]

there's a community map project now, lads

[Vedastia]

Are these two map threads going to be reconciled?

Constituencies & Elections
Galatean Cartographers' Guild

[Vienna Eliot]

Alright, I'm done. For as apparently biased as our admins are supposed to be, they haven't done anything about the coordinated efforts to drive me out of the roleplay over the baseless claims of a couple people I called out for being transphobes. If you guys can't get over a grudge because I told you that you were being childish, you're free to keep acting like this. I won't get in the way of the roleplay you're killing.

And by the way, Kam's "nephew" claim is bullshit. I should know.

[Van Hool Islands]

Alright, I'm done. For as apparently biased as our admins are supposed to be, they haven't done anything about the coordinated efforts to drive me out of the roleplay over the baseless claims of a couple people I called out for being transphobes. If you guys can't get over a grudge because I told you that you were being childish, you're free to keep acting like this. I won't get in the way of the roleplay you're killing.

And by the way, Kam's "nephew" claim is bullshit. I should know.

Bye.

[Nulla Bellum]

Are these two map threads going to be reconciled?

Constituencies & Elections
Galatean Cartographers' Guild

I'm assuming so until I've made an ass of u and me.

[Nulla Bellum]

Alright, I'm done. For as apparently biased as our admins are supposed to be, they haven't done anything about the coordinated efforts to drive me out of the roleplay over the baseless claims of a couple people I called out for being transphobes. If you guys can't get over a grudge because I told you that you were being childish, you're free to keep acting like this. I won't get in the way of the roleplay you're killing.

And by the way, Kam's "nephew" claim is bullshit. I should know.

The "coordinated efforts" failed, I thought. Hope you reconsider and stick around.

[Vedastia]

With the Freedom Party dissolved and the CLP pretty much moribund, who will take the liberal conservative and right liberal mantles?

[Nulla Bellum]

With the Freedom Party dissolved and the CLP pretty much moribund, who will take the liberal conservative and right liberal mantles?

I've decided to pursue that path as an independent, fits my character and his constituency.

Hey Arch, turn me into an indy.

[Lamaredia]

Alright, I'm done. For as apparently biased as our admins are supposed to be, they haven't done anything about the coordinated efforts to drive me out of the roleplay over the baseless claims of a couple people I called out for being transphobes. If you guys can't get over a grudge because I told you that you were being childish, you're free to keep acting like this. I won't get in the way of the roleplay you're killing.

And by the way, Kam's "nephew" claim is bullshit. I should know.

Don't (or do) let the door hit you on the way out!

[Roosevetania]

It is true that there were coordinated efforts to drive her out, but denying truthful things isn't helpful.