NSG Senate Coffee Shop: No Free Refills

[Nulla Bellum]

A response from the President's Press Secretary:

None of these will be getting a recommendation because none of these are money bills.

How does the President propose Senate cops and "free" school meals be paid for? Magic fairy dust? A tax? On who or what? Does the President expect the proposed Senate cop be slave laborers? Will the President be confiscating foodstuffs from farmers, and forcing other slave laborers to prepare meals for schoolchildren being taught by enslaved teachers?

Yes. they are "money bills." Is the President certifying that absolutely no money whatsoever will be taxed or spent on these proposed programs if enacted? Will the President resign if this is not the case?

[Paketo]

A response from the President's Press Secretary:

None of these will be getting a recommendation because none of these are money bills.

How does the President propose Senate cops and "free" school meals be paid for? Magic fairy dust? A tax? On who or what? Does the President expect the proposed Senate cop be slave laborers? Will the President be confiscating foodstuffs from farmers, and forcing other slave laborers to prepare meals for schoolchildren being taught by enslaved teachers?

Yes. they are "money bills." Is the President certifying that absolutely no money whatsoever will be taxed or spent on these proposed programs if enacted? Will the President resign if this is not the case?

no budget is allocated to them in bill. Unless it directly deals with funds, their use, or seizure of funds, it is not a money bill.

[Nulla Bellum]

How does the President propose Senate cops and "free" school meals be paid for? Magic fairy dust? A tax? On who or what? Does the President expect the proposed Senate cop be slave laborers? Will the President be confiscating foodstuffs from farmers, and forcing other slave laborers to prepare meals for schoolchildren being taught by enslaved teachers?

Yes. they are "money bills." Is the President certifying that absolutely no money whatsoever will be taxed or spent on these proposed programs if enacted? Will the President resign if this is not the case?

no budget is allocated to them in bill. Unless it directly deals with funds, their use, or seizure of funds, it is not a money bill.

You don't really believe that. Are you a lobbyist? The paychecks of the proposed Senate cops, the "free" meals and the paychecks of those that prepare them, etc. all implicitly and explicitly entail costs. It is pointless to dream up these...wait for it...spending initiatives, which is what they are, if we are going to work to pass them, then go back to work again, if given permission from Papa Prez, mind you, on figuring out how to pay for them. Yes, they are "money bills," or they are piffle. Surely my colleague to my left is still right-wing enough to believe we're not here to create flowery dipshit aphorisms. It's awful nice if we pass a bill that promises the government will provide milk and honey and sunshine and rainbows and butterfly farts for everyone or whatever only to have it gather dust until the "ceremonial" President deigns to let us actually do something to make those promises active by funding. I'm not a lobbyist. I'm a legislator. Even the most far-left whackadoo command economies will assess what they have on hand before they start redistributing to their various priorities. Anybody can promise "free" shit. But they aren't free. Everything proposed requires funding. These are in fact "money bills." Or they're hokey bullshit. GEA2018 Article 6 Section 12 needs to be revoked so we can in fact demonstrate we are conservative with the national Treasury, if we even have one. Have you seen a national treasury anywhere? What's in it? Oatmeal?

[Ainin]

Your inability to understand the common definition of a widely-used legal term does not preclude any of these bills from proceeding to a vote without a presidential recommendation.

[Nulla Bellum]

Your inability to understand the common definition of a widely-used legal term does not preclude any of these bills from proceeding to a vote without a presidential recommendation.

So you'll resign if any of these proposals require government funding to fulfill? How about we just impeach you and save the headache?

ooc: Removing Ga2018 Article 6 Section 12 makes this RP our game instead of Ainin's game.

[Paketo]

Your inability to understand the common definition of a widely-used legal term does not preclude any of these bills from proceeding to a vote without a presidential recommendation.

So you'll resign if any of these proposals require government funding to fulfill? How about we just impeach you and save the headache?

The organizations require funds to run yes. These bills do not allocate any funds to them however. Since it does not allocate funds, it is not a money bill.

[Nulla Bellum]

So you'll resign if any of these proposals require government funding to fulfill? How about we just impeach you and save the headache?

The organizations require funds to run yes. These bills do not allocate any funds to them however. Since it does not allocate funds, it is not a money bill.

Money bills may only be introduced with a recommendation from the President of Galatea.

Is this the "ceremonial" role of a "powerless" President? Are Senators lobbyists or legislators? How much ring-kissing is involved in getting a funding bill started for a bill the President will not recommend? What power does the Senate have to bypass the lack of the President's recommendation for a money bill? Who is paying for the President's press secretary?What is the President's security paid with? Oatmeal? Who's oatmeal? When does the supply of oatmeal run out?

End this petty tyrant game. Perhaps you're familiar with the term "bullshit." It's another term for GA2018 Article 6 section 12.

ooc: you ever wonder why interest in your attempts at goverment simulation RPGs wane? Nobody wants to have the same powertrip players Aover and Bover and Cover and Dover and Eover and Fover and Gover again. I'm challenging that paradigm. Let's play our game, instead of Ainin's game, shall we?

[Paketo]

The organizations require funds to run yes. These bills do not allocate any funds to them however. Since it does not allocate funds, it is not a money bill.

Money bills may only be introduced with a recommendation from the President of Galatea.

Is this the "ceremonial" role of a "powerless" President? Are Senators lobbyists or legislators? How much ring-kissing is involved in getting a funding bill started for a bill the President will not recommend? What power does the Senate have to bypass the lack of the President's recommendation for a money bill? Who is paying for the President's press secretary?What is the President's security paid with? Oatmeal? Who's oatmeal? When does the supply of oatmeal run out?

End this petty tyrant game. Perhaps you're familiar with the term "bullshit." It's another term for GA2018 Article 6 section 12.

ooc: you ever wonder why interest in your attempts at goverment simulation RPGs wane? Nobody wants to have the same powertrip players Aover and Bover and Cover and Dover and Eover and Fover and Gover again. I'm challenging that paradigm. Let's play our game, instead of Ainin's game, shall we?

This isn’t Ainin’s Game. This is the actual legal definition of a money bill which is the allocation of funds or acquisition of them. These bills deal with niether so are not money bills. We are sticking to the legal definition. Recommendation of the president is only required for budgets and tax codes which deal with the allocation and acquisition of funds.

[Martune]

We need to bring standing rules for the houses

[Collatis]

We need to bring standing rules for the houses

Archism wrote this bill.

[Martune]

We need to bring standing rules for the houses

Archism wrote this bill.

I sponsored it. (Though I’m FIRE not CHU)

[Nova Anglicana]

I’ll sponsor both, although I’m not sure two meals per school day is necessary. Isn’t one meal the norm?

some schools also offer breakfast

That was the intent, breakfast and lunch. There are going to be kids who will get the majority of their daily nutrition from the school b/c of poverty, so I'd rather they have the chance to get more food than less. Thanks for the sponsor!

Still open to sponsors, questions, comments, etc.

[Thermodolia]

Senate Security Act
Author: Niccolo Fallaci (FDP)
Sponsors: Alexis Gianopoulos (DP), Konstantin Serdelescu-Montevino (CPG-M), Alexandra Malgrave (Ind), Giorgios Evangelos (FDP), Elisavet Zevi (AfC), Gokhan Turker (FDP), Constantine Iolanthe (CHU), Gary Tyreea (FIRE), Andrea Michelakos (FDP), Karolos Dimitriadis (CHU)

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An act to ensure the safety and security of the legislature of Galatea

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

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§1 - Establishment of the Senate Police Force

1. A police force, the Senate Police Force (SPF) shall be created with the sole purpose of maintaining the security of the Galatean Senate.
2. The sergeant-at-arms of the Senate, appointed on agreement by the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the House of Tribunes, shall be the chief of the SPF.
3. The sergeant-at-arms shall be in charge of and direct the SPF and shall be in charge of Senate security.
4. The SPF shall check all persons before entering either Chamber and shall remove any security threats. Entry into the Chamber shall require SPF approval.
5. All weapons or security forces other than the official Senate Police Force are strictly prohibited.

A bill establishing a security force and banning paramilitaries from enforcing order.

Sponsor, Ionas Karatasos (GNP)

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National Space Agency Act
Author: Lilika Samaras (AfC)
Sponsors: Alexis Gianopoulos (DP), Konstantin Serdelescu-Montevino (CPG-M), Joseph Sartori (DP), Xander Diamantakos (FIRE), Andrea Michelakos, (FDP)

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An act to establish a national space agency for Galatea; to establish proper and safe regulation on private space flight; to enable international cooperation on space exploration.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

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§1 - Establishment

1. There shall be established a special governmental organization, named the National Space Agency of Galatea (NSAG).
2. The NSAG will be headed by an Administrator, who will be appointed by the President of Galatea on the advice of the Prime Minister after the conclusion of national elections.
3. The activities of the NSAG may be regulated in national legislation.
4. The Prime Minister may offer a set of broad goals or focus areas for the NSAG to focus on during their administration.
5. Other than national legislation and broad Prime Ministerial direction, the activities and focuses of the NSAG shall be left up to its internal administration.

§2 - Responsibilities

1. Where such regulation does not disagree with law, the NSAG shall be empowered to create legal regulations on the following:
   
   1. Rocket launch facility locations.
   2. Safe launch windows, timings and angles.
   3. Galatean satellites and/or orbiters.
   4. Manned spaceflight.
   5. International cooperation/technological exchanges relating to spaceflight.
2. The NSAG shall be responsible for advising the executive government on space policy.
3. The NSAG shall be responsible for creating and engaging Galatean citizens in space-related interest.
4. The NSAG shall be responsible for creating and maintaining a healthy environment for private space exploration and exploitation.
5. The NSAG shall be responsible for directing Galatea's national scientific interests in space-related areas.
6. The NSAG shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining cooperative links with foreign space-related organizations.

A national space agency, more of a regulatory agency for private space flight than a governmental space vehicle but that's more what's appropriate for Galatea's size. Any thoughts?

Sponsor, Ionas Karatasos (GNP) Though id recommend more government involvement.

[Hakons]

Bill of Rights
Author: Cipriono Scotti (FDP)
Sponsors: Eleni di Messina (DP), Andrea Michelakos (FDP), Karolos Dimitriadis (CHU), Xander Diamantakos (FIRE), Gökhan Türker (FDP), Gary Tyreea
(FIRE)

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An act to enumerate the rights of the People into law

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§1 - The Rights of the People

1. The right of the People to free speech, free press, free assembly, and free petition will not be infringed.
2. The right of the People to freely exercise religion will not be infringed.
3. The right of the People to a free and fair trial by jury will not be infringed.
4. The right of the People to life and the possession of property will not be infringed.
5. The right of the People to the presumption of innocence will not be infringed.
6. The right of the People to to equal protection under the law will not be infringed.
7. The rights enumerated in this bill will not be construed to deny rights retained by the people

§2 - Restrictions of Government

1. The Government will make no law establishing a state religion.
2. The Government will not seize property without clear reason and just compensation.
3. The Government must provide a warrant of probable cause in order to perform a search or an arrest.
4. The Government will not force the accused into self-incrimination.
5. The Government will make no law violating double jeopardy and/or habeas corpus.
6. The Government will make no bills of attainder or ex post facto laws.

I amended part 1, section G to remove ambiguity, per the suggestion of Nova Anglicana. I strongly urge others to sponsor this bill, as it would protect several basic liberties.

[Improved werpland]

[align=center]Bill of Rights
[size=90]Author: Cipriono Scotti (FDP)
*snip*

I amended part 1, section G to remove ambiguity, per the suggestion of Nova Anglicana. I strongly urge others to sponsor this bill, as it would protect several basic liberties.

I sponsor.

[Improved werpland]

This used to be the standard bill format as per Lykens. Should we put it in the op?

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[Collatis]

This used to be the standard bill format as per Lykens. Should we put it in the op?

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People have always used different bill formats. I’m not sure the specific one really matters, but having a format in the OP would be useful.

[Martune]

Bill of Rights
Author: Cipriono Scotti (FDP)
Sponsors: Eleni di Messina (DP), Andrea Michelakos (FDP), Karolos Dimitriadis (CHU), Xander Diamantakos (FIRE)

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An act to enumerate the rights of the People into law

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§1 - The Rights of the People

1. The right of the People to free speech, free press, free assembly, and free petition will not be infringed.
2. The right of the People to freely exercise religion will not be infringed.
3. The right of the People to a free and fair trial by jury will not be infringed.
4. The right of the People to life and the possession of property will not be infringed.
5. The right of the People to the presumption of innocence will not be infringed.
6. The right of the People to to equal protection under the law will not be infringed.
7. The rights enumerated in this bill will not be construed to deny rights retained by the people

§2 - Restrictions of Government

1. The Government will make no law establishing a state religion.
2. The Government will not seize property without clear reason and just compensation.
3. The Government must provide a warrant of probable cause in order to perform a search or an arrest.
4. The Government will not force the accused into self-incrimination.
5. The Government will make no law violating double jeopardy and/or habeas corpus.
6. The Government will make no bills of attainder or ex post facto laws.

I amended part 1, section G to remove ambiguity, per the suggestion of Nova Anglicana. I strongly urge others to sponsor this bill, as it would protect several basic liberties.

Sponsor

[Lamaredia]

Gender Rights Act
Author: Giannis Halkias (CPG—M)
Sponsors: Electrum, Collatis, Sovcan

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An act to guarantee basic gender equality and rights for women and girls

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED, as follows:

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§1 - Marriage

1. No individual shall be coerced into marriage against their will. Any individual found to have coerced another into marriage, whether they be a spouse, a parent, a sibling, or another relation, shall be punished with up to 10 years imprisonment and be liable for damages to the victim.
2. Any marriage found to have been enacted through coercion shall be considered immediately null and void.
3. The act of dowry, henceforth defined as "property or money given from one family to the other as a condition of marriage" shall be illegal. Any individual found to have received dowry shall be punished with up to 5 years imprisonment and be liable for damages to the victims.
4. The legal age of marriage shall be 18 years of age. Any individual found to have married a minor, conspired to marry a minor, or otherwise coerced a minor into marriage shall be punished with up to 10 years imprisonment and be liable for damages to the victim. Any marriage with a minor shall be considered coerced, in accordance with Clause 1a, and any charges relating to Clause 1d will be in addition to charges from Clause 1a.
5. Any marriage in which one or more of the participants was a minor at the time of union shall be considered immediately null and void.
6. No individual shall take more than one spouse at a time. Any marriage found to have been enacted while one of the partners was already married shall be considered null and void.

§2 - Divorce

1. Either party in a marriage may initiate divorce by filing papers with a local official. If they are illiterate, or otherwise unable to understand the language in which the documents are written, assistance will be provided for them.
2. No justification shall be asked for or required for a divorce. The government may not deny a divorce under any circumstances unless there is reasonable suspicion the filer is being coerced.

§3 - The rights of children

1. The act of female genital mutilation (FGM) shall be prohibited. Any individual found to have preformed FGM, hired the services of someone to preform FGM, or otherwise conspired to have preformed FGM shall be punished with up to 15 years in prison, and liable for damages to the victim, as well as charges of assault and child abuse.
2. No child shall be denied education, healthcare, or other services based on their gender.

§4 - Human trafficking and prostitution

1. Human trafficking shall be prohibited. Any individual found to have engaged in human trafficking, henceforth defined as "the coerced movement of persons", either through the exchange of money related to trafficking, the physical transport of a victim, or in any other way conspiring to facilitate human trafficking, shall be punished with up to 25 years in prison and be liable for damages to the victim.
2. Solicitation of a prostitute shall be prohibited. Any individual found to have solicited a prostitute shall be punished with up to 5 years imprisonment and a fine of up to USD 3,000.
3. The act of pimping, henceforth defined as "the facilitation or provision of a prostitute for a client" shall be prohibited. Any individual found to have engaged in pimping shall be punished with up to 10 years imprisonment and a fine of up to USD 10,000.

§5 - Abortion

1. Sex-selective abortion, henceforth known as "the termination of a pregnancy on the basis of the gender of the fetus" is prohibited. Any individual found to have knowingly performed, willfully solicited, or coerced another individual into having a sex-selective abortion shall be punished with up to three years imprisonment at a fine of up to USD 2,000.
2. Any medical practitioner found to have knowingly performed a sex-selective abortion shall have their medical license suspended.

This is a bit barebones right now and I'd love recommendations for additions

reposting for sponsors

I would sponsor, but I have two questions first. The first question is, does the bill allow for homosexual marriage? If not, can it be added?

The second question is pertaining to the part about FGM, can it add a provision prohibiting MGM, or at least make it so that it has to be done by a trained and licensed medical professional? (Preferably the first option.)

[Improved werpland]

I have written/plagiarized a bill establishing/codifying (because there surely was one during the Junta) a central bank without understanding what they do. Of course, I'm sure we can overlook my lack of elaboration on the practices of the bank, so sponsor?

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Central Bank Act

Sponsor: Gokhan Turker FDP
Co-Sponsors:

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Section 1: Definitions

Lira- Galatean Lira or Galatean Bank Note
CBG- Central Bank of Galatea
CBGAB- Central Bank of Galatea Administrative Board

Section 2: Title

There shall continue to be a central bank in the Republic of Galatea, which from now on shall be referred to as the Central Bank of Galatea, having the function assigned to it by the provisions of this bill.

Section 3: Authority

The CBG shall have the exclusive right to:

1) Issue the Lira.
2) Formulate and implement monetary policy with regards to the Lira.

Section 4: Administration

The powers and functions of the
CBG shall be exercised by the Central Bank of Galatea Administrative Board (CBGAB), hereafter referred to as the CBGAB, composed of six members who shall serve a term of six years unless they engage in activities or arrangements incompatible with the responsibility of their offices.

The six members are:

1) The Governor of the CBG, who shall be the Chairman of the Administrative Board. The Governor of the CBG shall be head of a department and his appointment shall be
subject to confirmation by the five other members of the CBGAB. Whenever the Governor is unable to attend a meeting of the Board, he shall designate a Deputy Governor to act as his alternate: Provided, that in such event, the CBGAB shall designate one of its members as acting Chairman.

2) Three members who shall come from the private sector and have adequate experience in monetary policy. These members shall be appointed to the CBGAB by the President of The Republic of Galatea.

3) Two members who shall also come from the private sector and have adequate experience in monetary policy. These members shall be appointed to the CBGAB by the House of Tribunes.

Section 5: Other

All banks within the Republic of Galatea will have to join the National Central Banking System (NCBS), where all banks will have to accept the Lira as legal tender as well as the position of the CBG as its legal authority.

[Hakons]

I have written/plagiarized a bill establishing/codifying (because there surely was one during the Junta) a central bank without understanding what they do. Of course, I'm sure we can overlook my lack of elaboration on the practices of the bank, so sponsor?

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Central Bank Act

Sponsor: Gokhan Turker FDP
Co-Sponsors:

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Section 1: Definitions

Lira- Galatean Lira or Galatean Bank Note
CBG- Central Bank of Galatea
CBGAB- Central Bank of Galatea Administrative Board

Section 2: Title

There shall continue to be a central bank in the Republic of Galatea, which from now on shall be referred to as the Central Bank of Galatea, having the function assigned to it by the provisions of this bill.

Section 3: Authority

The CBG shall have the exclusive right to:

1) Issue the Lira.
2) Formulate and implement monetary policy with regards to the Lira.

Section 4: Administration

The powers and functions of the
CBG shall be exercised by the Central Bank of Galatea Administrative Board (CBGAB), hereafter referred to as the CBGAB, composed of six members who shall serve a term of six years unless they engage in activities or arrangements incompatible with the responsibility of their offices.

The six members are:

1) The Governor of the CBG, who shall be the Chairman of the Administrative Board. The Governor of the CBG shall be head of a department and his appointment shall be
subject to confirmation by the five other members of the CBGAB. Whenever the Governor is unable to attend a meeting of the Board, he shall designate a Deputy Governor to act as his alternate: Provided, that in such event, the CBGAB shall designate one of its members as acting Chairman.

2) Three members who shall come from the private sector and have adequate experience in monetary policy. These members shall be appointed to the CBGAB by the President of The Republic of Galatea.

3) Two members who shall also come from the private sector and have adequate experience in monetary policy. These members shall be appointed to the CBGAB by the House of Tribunes.

Section 5: Other

All banks within the Republic of Galatea will have to join the National Central Banking System (NCBS), where all banks will have to accept the Lira as legal tender as well as the position of the CBG as its legal authority.

Looks solid. I don't see the specifics for removing a committee member, but it does say they can be removed. Central banking has proven successful across many nations.

Sponsored, Cipriono Scotti FDP

[Hakons]

reposting for sponsors

I would sponsor, but I have two questions first. The first question is, does the bill allow for homosexual marriage? If not, can it be added?

The second question is pertaining to the part about FGM, can it add a provision prohibiting MGM, or at least make it so that it has to be done by a trained and licensed medical professional? (Preferably the first option.)

Requiring licensed professionals would be fine, but completely banning circumcision would be a restriction of religious liberty.

[House of Judah]

Judiciary Act 2018
Author: Elisavet Zevi [House of Judah|AfC]
Sponsors: Ionas Karatasos [Thermodolia|GNP], Gary Tyreea [Martune|FIRE], Giorgios Evangelos [Eibenland|FDP], Andreios Argyris [Crylante|AfC]

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An act to establish the court systems and Court Bailiff Service of Galatea

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[Thermodolia]

Judiciary Act 2018
Author: Elisavet Zevi [House of Judah|AfC]
Sponsors:

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An act to establish the court systems and Court Bailiff Service of Galatea

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I like but I think you should remove the entire amendment section.

[House of Judah]

Judiciary Act 2018
Author: Elisavet Zevi [House of Judah|AfC]
Sponsors:

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An act to establish the court systems and Court Bailiff Service of Galatea

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I like but I think you should remove the entire amendment section.

Why? It frees up two seats on the High Court for non-admins.