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Postby Ainin » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:39 pm

We should refrain from pulling idealistic moves that undermine our international diplomatic credibility at this point in time. We should only recognise internationally-recognised states (that is, all UN member-states, Vatican City, Palestine, the Knights of Malta, to the exclusion of all others).
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Postby Tectonix » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:47 pm

Ainin wrote:We should refrain from pulling idealistic moves that undermine our international diplomatic credibility at this point in time. We should only recognise internationally-recognised states (that is, all UN member-states, Vatican City, Palestine, the Knights of Malta, to the exclusion of all others).

I think we should hold off on Palestine. That may prove dicey, and a can of worms we probably are not to fond to the open.

The rest is fine.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:48 pm

Ainin wrote:We should refrain from pulling idealistic moves that undermine our international diplomatic credibility at this point in time. We should only recognise internationally-recognised states (that is, all UN member-states, Vatican City, Palestine, the Knights of Malta, to the exclusion of all others).

Well Kosovo already has the recognition of many powerful countries including but not limited to the US, Canada, and most of Europe, so I don't see why that would be a problem.

For states like Somaliland, I can see your point, but still, it seems to me like a good course of action to extend the hand of friendship towards a stable, democratic unrecognised state so close to Fernão.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:50 pm

Tectonix wrote:
Ainin wrote:We should refrain from pulling idealistic moves that undermine our international diplomatic credibility at this point in time. We should only recognise internationally-recognised states (that is, all UN member-states, Vatican City, Palestine, the Knights of Malta, to the exclusion of all others).

I think we should hold off on Palestine. That may prove dicey, and a can of worms we probably are not to fond to the open.

The rest is fine.

If we aren't going to recognise Palestine, then we shouldn't recognise Vatican City either. Both are considered nation-states at the United Nations and are recognised as such by an overwhelming majority of the international community.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:52 pm

Tectonix wrote:
Ainin wrote:We should refrain from pulling idealistic moves that undermine our international diplomatic credibility at this point in time. We should only recognise internationally-recognised states (that is, all UN member-states, Vatican City, Palestine, the Knights of Malta, to the exclusion of all others).

I think we should hold off on Palestine. That may prove dicey, and a can of worms we probably are not to fond to the open.

The rest is fine.

Practically all of Africa and Asia recognise Palestine, I think it would be breaking with all of our neighbor to refuse to recognise them.
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Postby Lykens » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:55 pm

If we don't recognize palestine I will filibuster any israel recognition

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Postby Tectonix » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:56 pm

Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism)

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

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Postby Ainin » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:58 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:Well Kosovo already has the recognition of many powerful countries including but not limited to the US, Canada, and most of Europe, so I don't see why that would be a problem.

You're right, I had actually forgotten about Kosovo. However, recognising it would annoy Russia, China and maybe India, all potentially very important trade partners for Fernão.

For states like Somaliland, I can see your point, but still, it seems to me like a good course of action to extend the hand of friendship towards a stable, democratic unrecognised state so close to Fernão.

Given that Somaliland's breakaway status has repeatedly undermined international statebuilding efforts in Somalia, it would be decidedly bizarre for a nation such as ours, which is also statebuilding, to support it.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:58 pm

What is the RGP and why am I listed as a part of it? My party is the FPP.
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Postby Tectonix » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:59 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:What is the RGP and why am I listed as a part of it? My party is the FPP.

Sorry, mate. Fixed it.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:00 pm

Tectonix wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:What is the RGP and why am I listed as a part of it? My party is the FPP.

Sorry, mate. Fixed it.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:07 pm

Also, my bill is totally including a clause recognising Argentina's claim over Las Malvinas :p
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:16 pm

Alright, so far
-no objections to Kosovo
-Palestine is pretty much surely getting in
-Somaliland is still a maybe
-The Vatican I don't think is getting any objections
-Western Sahara is a maybe, but I'm leaning towards including it

Any additions or subtraction anyone think I should make that haven't been mentioned already?
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:25 pm


Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
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An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

Section 1: Definitions
Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area

Section 2: Recognised Countries
The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All countries recognised by the United Nations
b. Kosovo
c. Palestine
d. Somaliland
e. Vatican City
f. Western Sahara

Section 3: Territorial Disputes
a. Fernao will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position


Whatever, this is my first draft and I'm throwing it all out there. I'll systematically take countries off the list if this can't get enough sponsors as is. Any issues not relating to the countries being recognised, with regards to wording or anything?

Edit- WTF went wrong with the format? I can't get section 2 to the left.
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Postby Jovuistan » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:25 pm

Tectonix wrote:
Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism)

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

Reposted with Co-Sponsors.

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Postby Tectonix » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:27 pm

Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism) | Rodrigo Santos (Independent - Jovuistan

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

Final Submission. Big Thanks to all Co-Sponsors.
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Postby Lykens » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:29 pm

Tectonix wrote:
Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism) | Rodrigo Santos (Independent - Jovuistan

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

Final Submission. Big Thanks to all Co-Sponsors.


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[*]Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.

appeals from where? it's the only court
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Postby Tectonix » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:30 pm

Lykens wrote:
Tectonix wrote:
Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism) | Rodrigo Santos (Independent - Jovuistan

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

Final Submission. Big Thanks to all Co-Sponsors.


hold on wait

[*]Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.

appeals from where? it's the only court

Sorry, forgot to remove that. I was going to do it, anyways.

EDIT: I'm drafting a bill to create the full judiciary of Fernão. Their appeals will funnel up to the Provisional High Court.
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Postby Arachaea » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:14 am

Socialist Nordia wrote:

Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
Co-Sponsors:
An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

Section 1: Definitions
Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area

Section 2: Recognised Countries
The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All countries recognised by the United Nations
b. Kosovo
c. Palestine
d. Somaliland
e. Vatican City
f. Western Sahara

Section 3: Territorial Disputes
a. Fernao will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position


Whatever, this is my first draft and I'm throwing it all out there. I'll systematically take countries off the list if this can't get enough sponsors as is. Any issues not relating to the countries being recognised, with regards to wording or anything?

Edit- WTF went wrong with the format? I can't get section 2 to the left.

Sponsor, António Ventura, RGA
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:45 am

Territories and federal governance act
An act to make provisions on provinces; on self governance within territories; on autonomy of the territories; on rights and responsibilities of territories and federal government as it relates to the territories, and on other related matters.




Part I - On Territories

Article I - Establishment of Territories
§1. The Federal Republic of Fernão shall consist of twelve territories, based upon historic, economic and cultural values in the territories; taking particular account of the peace accords and the ongoing peace process.
§2. Senate shall establish cross party, cross ethnic commission which shall submit a provisional report to the chair of the senate within time period not exceeding fourteen days from adoption of this act proposing demarcations of the twelve territories based upon the aforementioned criteria, without placing the capital city of Fernão under jurisdiction of any one territory, nor making it an enclave within any territory.
§3. The chair upon receiving the report shall schedule a vote on adoption of the boundaries so proposed within a time period not exceeding three days from receipt of the report; if the boundary recommendations is rejected the commission shall produce second fuller recommendations which shall be subject to a nationwide popular vote, upon which any citizen or permanent resident of Fernão above age of sixteen shall shave a single vote.
§4. If the border proposal is rejected in the popular vote, the original recommendation of the commission shall stand.
§5. Upon formal establishment of the territories, the federal government shall undertake all necessary steps to ensure the territorial governments, as specified on this act are established and operational without delay. For this purpose the federal government shall have the extraordinary right, on exclusively this occasion to administer and conduct necessary elections within the territories to establish territorial governance.

Article II - Territorial Legislature
§1. Territorial legislature shall consist of members of the federal senate elected within boundaries of a territory; and invested with legislative authority to make or unmake laws and regulations applicable to the territory in question so as long as such laws does not run contrary to the federal legislation passed by the senate.
§2. Territorial legislature shall be fully responsible for making laws to establish and maintain other required forms of governance within their respective territories, including but not limited to executive, administration, law enforcement etc.
§3. Territorial legislature may impose and collect taxes, impose financial penalties within their jurisdiction, or take on debts to provide common welfare for its citizens and residents.
§4. Section 2 and 3 specified above being so fundamental for orderly running of the territory, shall not be subject to the federal legislative supremacy as specified in section 1. Where question of overstep by federal legislature appears as relating to section 2 and 3 above, particular deference shall be paid to the territorial legislatures and territorial governments.

Article III - Territorial judiciary
§1. Notwithstanding any provisions in article ii, territorial legislatures shall be responsible for establishing system of independent courts and tribunals within their respective territories, which shall have initial jurisdiction of hearing criminal and civil cases which occurred within jurisdiction of the territory.
§2. A party unsatisfied with the verdict after exhausting the appeals process of the territorial court system, may request a hearing at the lowest court of the federal courts system; who at their discretion may choose to hear the case. If the federal court refuses to hear the case, the judgment of the highest territorial court shall be final.

Article IV - Territorial territorial sovereignty
§1. After demarcation of territories as established in article i, the boundaries of the Territory shall be absolute. Jurisdiction of no area shall be removed, exchanged or otherwise altered except by agreement of the Territory(ies) in question, agreement of the federal senate, agreement of no less than two thirds of total Territories, and an approval by no less than three fifth of the populance ordinarily resident in the affected area, in clean aye, nay popular vote.
§2. Notwithstanding provisions in section one above, no new Territory shall be established from an area of an existing Territory.



Part II - On Federal Cities

Article I - Establishment and other regulations on federal cities
§1. In addition to the capital city, federal government shall have the right to declare at most twelve cities with population in excess of five hundred thousand, or otherwise of particular importance a federal city for period not extending two years with consent of the concerned territorial legislature, notwithstanding provisions in section i.iv.i of this act.
§2. Not including the capital city, which shall permanently be a federal city, government with consent of the federal senate have right to return federal cities to the jurisdiction of their original Territory notwithstanding provisions in section i.iv.i.
§3. Federal cities sans capital city shall continue to have a vote in their Territorial elections, however shall be subject only to federal jurisdiction with regards to laws, regulations and taxes.
§4. In addition to election representatives through their Territories, federal cities shall further independently elect one representative to the senate who shall also be member of the Territorial legislature.
§5. The federal government shall be responsible for providing funds and for providing or maintaining regular services for the city while it is a federal city.



Part III - On Inter-Territory matters

Article I - Migration, customs, tariffs and excises
§1. Federal Republic of Fernão shall have uniform regulations as they relate to immigration, right to live and work, customs, tariffs and excises which shall be under sole competence of the federal government, taken to mean federal executive, legislature and judiciary.
§2. No Territory shall make any laws or regulations which is intended, or has an effect to prohibit or put unnecessary burden upon exchange of goods, services and people across boundaries of the territories.
§3. No law shall be passed, nor shall any law be interpreted in a manner which is intended, or has an effect to implement differing requirements for travel of persons, or transport of goods or services between areas which are within jurisdiction of Fernão.

Article II - Inter-Territory commerce and crime
§1. Commerce which involves multiple Territories, or commerce between Territories themselves shall be regulated by the federal government, and federal legislation shall be enforced before any Territorial legislation.
§2. Crime which is committed or planned, either partially or fully across boundaries of Territories shall in addition to being subject to criminal jurisdiction of all the territories where crime, or parts of the crime were committed, shall be subject to the federal jurisdiction for the entire crime regardless of the significance of the part of the crime which occurred across boundaries of Territories.
§3. Where an criminal action is under jurisdiction of both Territory(ies) and the federal government, the jurisdiction of Federal government shall take precedence unless such precedence is formally waved by the responsible prosecutor for the federal government. Regardless however both parties shall have the right to pursue independent case for the criminal action in due course.

Article III - On Extradition and inter-territory disputes
§1. Records, acts and judicial proceedings or orders issued by any Territory, or the federal government shall be recognized, and honored prima facie by all the Territories within the republic; although they may not be bound by such acts, proceedings or orders except where the such records are issued by the federal government which the Territories shall be bound by.
§2. Any extradition request for a person indicted under laws of a Territory but latter found to be residing in different Territory, shall be honored by the Territory where the suspect is currently residing in. The Territory shall make good faith attempt to capture the person so indicted and deliver them to the custody of the issuing Territory.
§3. Any suspect who after commission of crime in a Territory flees to Federal jurisdiction shall be liable for prosecution by the Territory and the Federal government for the original crime, based on appropriate federal and Territorial laws.
§4. Any disputes between territories shall be subject to the jurisdiction of the Federal court system.



Part IV - On Federal Acts & Elections

Article I - Petition of Concern
§1. On extraordinary matters which the Territories view as having direct impact upon their well being or otherwise encroaching upon their jurisdiction, Territory legislatures may submit a petition of concerns for a bill to the chair of federal senate, detailing their specific concerns with the proposed act. If at least one quarter of the Territories submit such petitions, the bill shall be put on stasis pending withdrawal of such petitions, or sixty days after which the bill may continue as normal.
§2. Where the chair feels the petition of concerns is being abused, they may petition a court to rule the petition of concerns to have been adequately resolved. The court shall, after taking full view of the Territory's case and the case presented by the federal senate issue its ruling and shall not issue any temporary orders which would have same effect as voiding petition of concerns without a full hearing.

Article II - Elections of executive
§1. The chair of the federal executive shall be elected by popular vote amongst the population of the Territories, with each Territory getting one vote. Federal cities sans the capital city shall in addition getting a vote in their Territories, get one quarter vote independently towards the election. The capital city shall get a vote equal to its population divided by the population of least populated Territory so long as the capital city has less population than that of the least populated Territory; where the capital city has a population greater than that of least populated territory it shall get one vote.
§2. Elections for the vice chair of the federal executive shall occur by national popular vote, with each person eligible to vote as established by federal law eligible to cast one vote.
§3. Elections for federal executive within Territories shall be managed and organised by the Territories themselves, whereas election in area under federal jurisdiction shall be organised by the federal government.

Article III - Bills of constitutional importance
§1. A bill which seeks to alter the fundamental relationship between the federal government and the Territories, alter legislative, executive or judicial competence of the federal government, alter legislative, executive or judicial competence of the territories may be termed bills of constitutional importance by the chair of the federal senate.
§2. Any bill so termed shall in addition to normal procedures need to be ratified by no less than legislatures of three fifth of the Territories before it is passed.
§3. Where a Territory believes a bill of constitutional importance has not been stated as such, it may seek relief from the federal courts.


Proposed by: Shankara Khatri (Ind)
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So first draft of the bill making us a federation - the federal system should introduce some strategic aspect to the game and the federal cities will hopefully be hotbed for a bit of corruption/ political powerplay. Thoughts?



Tldr:
  • We have territories, borders of which will be determined latter.
  • MPs from a state are both MPs and members of Territorial legislatures.
  • We can have upto 12 federal cities + capital which are under direct jurisdiction of the federal government which can be taken over by the territory's approval and removed by federal senate's approval.
  • Federal cities get an extra seat in the senate and the territory (for RP purposes one of the senators from that territory can cast two votes - how people decide to locate who gets it will be interesting).
  • Head of executive is elected by territories each having one vote, federal cities having quarter vote (plus vote as a territory), and capital city having its population/ least populated territory vote (or 1 whichever is lower).
  • Vice head of executive is elected by national popular vote.
  • 1/4th of territories can effectively filibuster a bill.
  • On important constitutional bills, 3/5th of states need to ratify it.
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Preliminary read-through, I would suggest 2/5 to filibuster. Will read the whole bill later.
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Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
Co-Sponsors: António Ventura (RGA - Arachaea)
An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

Section 1: Definitions
Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area


Section 2: Recognised Countries
The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All member states of the United Nations
b. Kosovo
c. Palestine
d. Vatican City
e. Western Sahara

Section 3: Territorial Disputes
a. Fernão will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position


Edit- Slight wording change to reduce redundancy, and removed Somaliland, even though I'll probably write a bill later on to amend it. At this point, we just need something officially recognising foreign governments.
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Postby Ainin » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:05 am

I still believe that it is premature and counterproductive to recognise Kosovo and Somaliland. It is also redundant to list out Vatican City and Palestine separately because they are already recognised as sovereign states by the UN.

Ainin wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:Well Kosovo already has the recognition of many powerful countries including but not limited to the US, Canada, and most of Europe, so I don't see why that would be a problem.

You're right, I had actually forgotten about Kosovo. However, recognising it would annoy Russia, China and maybe India, all potentially very important trade partners for Fernão.

For states like Somaliland, I can see your point, but still, it seems to me like a good course of action to extend the hand of friendship towards a stable, democratic unrecognised state so close to Fernão.

Given that Somaliland's breakaway status has repeatedly undermined international statebuilding efforts in Somalia, it would be decidedly bizarre for a nation such as ours, which is also statebuilding, to support it.
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Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism) | Rodrigo Santos (Independent - Jovuistan

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

Final Submission. Big Thanks to all Co-Sponsors.


Would it not be sensible to include a deadline for a Constitution to be drafted and ready to be ratified, and also state that if the deadline is not met the Senate would be dissolved and fresh elections held, an argument I raised in the Chamber thread? Obviously the deadline is simply for keeping up appearances, but also so the Senate and the Executive Government doesn't go rogue with power, and doesn't pass a Constitution in order to retain power ;) :P Also remniscent of the Nepali Constituent Assembly, which was their legislature who's main goal was to, other than keep order and pass laws, draft and pass a new Constitution, which after failing to meet their deadline, a fresh election was held.
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Socialist Mercanda wrote:
Tectonix wrote:
Provisional Government Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Indira Tamboli (CU - Lykens) | Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia) | Akiko Yukimura (RGA - Cresadine) | Vishal Vig (RGP - The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism) | Rodrigo Santos (Independent - Jovuistan

An Act of the National Legislature to make provision for the establishment of the Provisional Government of Fernão to begin formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution, among other things.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Legislature by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – The Provisional Government of Fernão:
  1. Establishes the Provisional Government of Fernão as the governing body of the nation of Fernão, charged with drafting and passing a Constitution for Fernão.
  2. Institutes the Senate, High Court and Provisional Office of the Executive to comprise the Provisional Government.
  3. Defines the Senate as the unicameral legislature of Fernão, headed by an Interim Speaker and charged with drafting bills, voting on them, submitting them for the consideration of the Interim President, and all other charges assumed by a federal legislature. The Senate retains the right to appoint the Provisional President by a two-thirds majority. The Senate further retains the right to set its own rules and procedures pursuant to adequate decorum and order in a parliamentary setting.
  4. Declares that the most senior Senator conduct a vote for the Interim Speaker of the Senate following this bill achieving quorum, awaiting a formal vote for the position of Speaker of the Senate; the Interim Speaker is charged with maintaining order, bringing bills to the table, assuring the adherence to decorum and working towards the formulation of the Fernãoan Constitution. The Interim Speaker also has the responsibility of appointing a Serjeant-at-Arms, whom is charged with maintaining order and security in the physical Senate chamber, as well as overseeing the Senatorial Police Force, among other security-related affairs.
  5. Mandates that the Interim Speaker be elected by a simple majority of the Senate.
  6. Construes the Provisional Office of the Executive as the executive body of Fernão, headed by the Provisional President. The Provisional President is charged with approving or vetoing bills passed by the Senate, which can override the veto by a 2/3rds majority.
  7. Specifies the High Court to be the supreme legal counsel of Fernão, with all legal appeals being resolved in full by it. The High Court is benched by three independent justices, appointed by the Senate by a simple majority. The High Court is charged with reviewing bills passed by the Senate and Provisional Office of the Executive.
  8. Further Mandates that the Provisional Government of Fernão not violate any of the provisions listed within Human Rights and all its Protocols and the Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols.
  9. Orders that this bill be set to expire once a formal Constitution is approved by the Provisional President and Senate.

Final Submission. Big Thanks to all Co-Sponsors.


Would it not be sensible to include a deadline for a Constitution to be drafted and ready to be ratified, and also state that if the deadline is not met the Senate would be dissolved and fresh elections held, an argument I raised in the Chamber thread? Obviously the deadline is simply for keeping up appearances, but also so the Senate and the Executive Government doesn't go rogue with power, and doesn't pass a Constitution in order to retain power ;) :P

Exactly my amendments. Good catch, mate.
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