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Postby Nulla Bellum » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:17 pm

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"I can fill this building with pages and pages of historical and anecdotal evidence of unions encouraging violence and terrorizing members that do not go along, as well as evidence of unions directing violence and theft and property damage against businesses, business owners, and their patrons and consumers. Communications workers tearing down phone and cable lines to deny entire cities access to contact police, fire, and emergency services. Union officials embezzling and bankrupting worker pension funds to personally enrich themselves. Whistleblowers hospitalized or killed. Incestuous ties to organized crime and terrorist groups. Dirty cops shielded from prosecution and termination by their unions. I firmly believe past behavior predicts future behavior. If we don't shut unions down now, the hope for law and order in Fernão is bleak. You can oppose my bill after I present it, but as long as we're reforming labor laws in Fernão, we ought to be tackling both slavery AND terrorism." Senator Bella snorts in contempt.

First off, the Coffee Shop is pretty much completely OOC, so I have no idea why you are doing this IC. Second, for every case of a union tie to organized crime or terrorism, you'll probably find three for businesses with similar ties. No one can hold a candle to corporate sabotage when it comes to another company in the same field. You want to target terrorism? Have at cowboy. I'd be interested in your efforts. You want to make it impossible for laborers to work together to better their circumstances? I'm pretty sure there's a fifty foot peer you can take a 100 foot walk on around here somewhere.


OOC: I didn't realize this is an OOC thread, I'm so confused. Good thing I'm playing a man with a concussion lol. For the record, "Senator Bella" makes my real life views on labor unions seem far left, because he's way far right on those issues. Y'all wanted a foil, right?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:00 am

Ainin is correct: "The positions taken in the Coffee Shop are IC." They are IC canon. The conversational tone is frequently OOC, but that is just convention, not a rule.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:26 am

Maklohi Vai wrote:Ainin is correct: "The positions taken in the Coffee Shop are IC." They are IC canon. The conversational tone is frequently OOC, but that is just convention, not a rule.


OOC: Generally I'm used to OOC content having an OOC tag, while IC content is in quotes (ic spoken words) and descriptive actions. Whatever convention works. I'm not here to debate real life labor law, but roleplay a right-wing asshole debating labor law :P
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Slavery and Human Trafficking Act

Sponsor: Angelina Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors: Leopoldo Agramonte (CU), David Lyons (IND), North Dajao (CU)
An act of the Senate of Fernão to make illegal the crimes of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes, and other purposes.

Section 1: Findings of the Senate
The Senate of Fernão finds that:
  1. it is absolutely necessary for any nation to have laws against slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.
  2. no law passed by the Senate of Fernão has, in any manner, prohibited or attempted the quell such crimes.
  3. no effort by any government institution has been made to aid those victims of crimes specifically related to slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and others.
  4. the Criminal Code of Fernão makes no provision regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.

Section 2: Slavery
Whosoever
    1) claims to own another human being without the consent of that human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
    2) aids or abets in the practice of owning another human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
is guilty of slavery, a delict, and will receive life imprisonment or imprisonment for no more than thirty-five years.

Section 3: Peonage
Whosoever
    1) captures another person or persons in order to render them in a state of peonage for unpaid debts of any kind or confines someone under the same conditions;
    2) forcibly compels another person to work to pay of debts of any kind;
    3) Attempts to render a person into a state of peonage for unpaid debts or aids and abets from such an enterprise;
is guilty of peonage, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 4: Coercion into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by any means kidnaps another person for the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    2) Coerces another human being into a location or agreement with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    3) Offering the use of intoxicants or forcing the use of intoxicants with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
is guilty of coercion into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.



Section 5: Sale into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by transaction of any kind transfers one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
    2) attempts to, by transaction of any kind, transfer one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
is guilty of sale into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 6: Transportation of slaves
Whosoever
    1) knowingly transports or aids in the transporting of slaves from Fernão under any circumstance;
    2) is found in possession of slaves on a vessel of any kind;
is guilty of transportation of slaves, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than ten years.


Section 7: Forced labour
Whosoever using the services of a labourer:
    1) uses force or threat of force against a person of labour;
    2) in any way seriously causes bodily harm or attempts to cause bodily harm upon a person of labour;
    3) is responsible for any method or plan to cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    4) is knowingly part of any scheme to cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    5) benefits knowingly from any scheme to cause cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
is guilty of forced labour, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 8: Human Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) forcibly transports a human being from one location to another;
    2) receives any person of any kind knowingly obtained by methods of coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude or transportation of slaves as defined by this act;
    3) indulges in the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons for the explicit purpose of exploitation of persons for any purpose by use of force or threat of force;
is guilty of human trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years.


Section 9: Sex Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) commits human trafficking for the purpose of obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse;
    2) knowingly benefiting from the obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse from human trafficking;
is guilty of sex trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years if the person trafficked is under eighteen and life imprisonment if the person is under eighteen.



Section 10: Tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes
Whosoever
    1) destroys, confiscates, commits, expunges in any way, or possesses documents or evidence of human trafficking and related crimes under this act for the expressed purpose of tampering with an investigation into such crimes;
    2) obstructs, or in any way, attempts to obstruct with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes;
is guilty of tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.



Section 11: Property used for human trafficking or slavery-related crimes
Any property or asset
    1) used for the purpose of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
    2) that exists from any benefit, financial or otherwise, of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
may be seized and, when no longer required as evidence of a criminal act, disposed of by the Public Prosecutor's Office and the Department of Justice.


Section 12: Regarding jurisdiction
The Department of Justice's jurisdiction over the enforcement of this act or any criminal or civil suits regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, or sex trafficking are considered universal jurisdiction and shall extend to all persons of all nationalities within or without the territory of Fernão regardless of the origin of the victim(s).

Quick repost of the edited bill in case someone is interested.
Last edited by Anere on Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:10 pm, edited 7 times in total.
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Postby House of Judah » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:04 am

Anere wrote:

Slavery and Human Trafficking Act

Sponsor: Angelina Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors: Leopoldo Agramonte (CU)
An act of the Senate of Fernão to make illegal the crimes of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes, and other purposes.

Section 1: Findings of the Senate
The Senate of Fernão finds that:
  1. it is absolutely necessary for any nation to have laws against slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.
  2. no law passed by the Senate of Fernão has, in any manner, prohibited or attempted the quell such crimes.
  3. no effort by any government institution has been made to aid those victims of crimes specifically related to slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and others.
  4. the Criminal Code of Fernão makes no provision regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.

Section 2: Slavery
Whosoever
    1) claims to own another human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
    2) aids or abets in the practice of owning another human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
is guilty of slavery, a delict, and will receive life imprisonment or imprisonment for no more than thirty-five years.

Section 3: Peonage
Whosoever
    1) captures another person or persons in order to render them in a state of peonage for unpaid debts of any kind or confines someone under the same conditions;
    2) forcibly compels another person to work to pay of debts of any kind;
    3) Attempts to render a person into a state of peonage for unpaid debts or aids and abets from such an enterprise;
is guilty of peonage, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 4: Kidnap into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by any means kidnaps another person for the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    2) Coerces another human being into a location or agreement with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    3) Offering the use of intoxicants or forcing the use of intoxicants with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
is guilty of coercion into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 4: Kidnap into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by any means kidnaps another person for the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    2) coerces another human being into a location or agreement with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    3) offers the use of intoxicants or forces the use of intoxicants with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    4) attempts to, aids, or abets the actions enumerated above;
is guilty of coercion into slavery, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 5: Sale into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by transaction of any kind transfers one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
    2) attempts to, by transaction of any kind, transfer one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
is guilty of sale into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 6: Transportation of slaves
Whosoever
    1) knowingly transports or aids in the transporting of slaves from Fernão under any circumstance;
    2) is found in position of slaves on a vessel of any kind;
is guilty of transportation of slaves, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than ten years.


Section 7: Forced labour
Whosoever using the services of a labourer:
    1) uses force or threat of force against a person of labour;
    2) in any way seriously causes bodily harm or attempts to cause bodily harm upon a person of labour;
    3) is responsible for any method or plan to cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    4) is knowingly part of any scheme to cause cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    5) benefits knowingly from any scheme to cause cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
is guilty of forced labour, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 8: Human Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) forcibly transports a human being from one location to another;
    2) receives any person of any kind knowingly obtained by methods of coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude or transportation of slaves as defined by this act;
    3) indulges in the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons for the explicit purpose of exploitation of persons for any purpose by use of force or threat of force;
is guilty of human trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years.


Section 9: Sex Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) commits human trafficking for the purpose of obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse;
    2) knowingly benefiting from the obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse from human trafficking;
is guilty of sex trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years if the person trafficked is under eighteen and life imprisonment if the person is under eighteen.



Section 10: Tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes
Whosoever
    1) destroys, confiscates, commits, expunges in any way, or possesses documents or evidence of human trafficking and related crimes under this act for the expressed purpose of tampering with an investigation into such crimes;
    2) obstructs, or in any way, attempts to obstruct with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes;
is guilty of tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.



Section 11: Property used for human trafficking or slavery-related crimes
Any property or asset
    1) used for the purpose of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
    2) that exists from any benefit, financial or otherwise, of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
will be perpetually the property of the Public Prosecutor's Office and the Department of Justice.


Section 13: Regarding jurisdiction
The Department of Justice's jurisdiction over the enforcement of this act or any criminal or civil suits regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, or sex trafficking are considered universal jurisdiction and shall extend to all persons of all nationalities within or without the territory of Fernão regardless of the origin of the victim(s).

Quick repost of the edited bill in case someone is interested.

Interested, but I have a few notes.
  1. Section 1 is basically useless text. This isn't the WA. We don't have to provide justifications into the bill.
  2. Section 4 repeats itself for no reason.
  3. The title of Section 4 reads "Kidnap into forced servitude" the crime listed in the section is "coercion into forced servitude"
  4. Section 6.2 uses the term 'position' instead of 'possession'.
  5. Section 7.4 repeats the word cause.
  6. Section 13 follows Section 11 with not section 12.

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Postby Anere » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:02 am

House of Judah wrote:
Anere wrote:

Slavery and Human Trafficking Act

Sponsor: Angelina Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors: Leopoldo Agramonte (CU)
An act of the Senate of Fernão to make illegal the crimes of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes, and other purposes.

Section 1: Findings of the Senate
The Senate of Fernão finds that:
  1. it is absolutely necessary for any nation to have laws against slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.
  2. no law passed by the Senate of Fernão has, in any manner, prohibited or attempted the quell such crimes.
  3. no effort by any government institution has been made to aid those victims of crimes specifically related to slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and others.
  4. the Criminal Code of Fernão makes no provision regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.

Section 2: Slavery
Whosoever
    1) claims to own another human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
    2) aids or abets in the practice of owning another human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
is guilty of slavery, a delict, and will receive life imprisonment or imprisonment for no more than thirty-five years.

Section 3: Peonage
Whosoever
    1) captures another person or persons in order to render them in a state of peonage for unpaid debts of any kind or confines someone under the same conditions;
    2) forcibly compels another person to work to pay of debts of any kind;
    3) Attempts to render a person into a state of peonage for unpaid debts or aids and abets from such an enterprise;
is guilty of peonage, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 4: Kidnap into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by any means kidnaps another person for the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    2) Coerces another human being into a location or agreement with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    3) Offering the use of intoxicants or forcing the use of intoxicants with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
is guilty of coercion into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 4: Kidnap into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by any means kidnaps another person for the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    2) coerces another human being into a location or agreement with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    3) offers the use of intoxicants or forces the use of intoxicants with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    4) attempts to, aids, or abets the actions enumerated above;
is guilty of coercion into slavery, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 5: Sale into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by transaction of any kind transfers one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
    2) attempts to, by transaction of any kind, transfer one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
is guilty of sale into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 6: Transportation of slaves
Whosoever
    1) knowingly transports or aids in the transporting of slaves from Fernão under any circumstance;
    2) is found in position of slaves on a vessel of any kind;
is guilty of transportation of slaves, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than ten years.


Section 7: Forced labour
Whosoever using the services of a labourer:
    1) uses force or threat of force against a person of labour;
    2) in any way seriously causes bodily harm or attempts to cause bodily harm upon a person of labour;
    3) is responsible for any method or plan to cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    4) is knowingly part of any scheme to cause cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    5) benefits knowingly from any scheme to cause cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
is guilty of forced labour, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 8: Human Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) forcibly transports a human being from one location to another;
    2) receives any person of any kind knowingly obtained by methods of coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude or transportation of slaves as defined by this act;
    3) indulges in the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons for the explicit purpose of exploitation of persons for any purpose by use of force or threat of force;
is guilty of human trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years.


Section 9: Sex Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) commits human trafficking for the purpose of obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse;
    2) knowingly benefiting from the obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse from human trafficking;
is guilty of sex trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years if the person trafficked is under eighteen and life imprisonment if the person is under eighteen.



Section 10: Tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes
Whosoever
    1) destroys, confiscates, commits, expunges in any way, or possesses documents or evidence of human trafficking and related crimes under this act for the expressed purpose of tampering with an investigation into such crimes;
    2) obstructs, or in any way, attempts to obstruct with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes;
is guilty of tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.



Section 11: Property used for human trafficking or slavery-related crimes
Any property or asset
    1) used for the purpose of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
    2) that exists from any benefit, financial or otherwise, of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
will be perpetually the property of the Public Prosecutor's Office and the Department of Justice.


Section 13: Regarding jurisdiction
The Department of Justice's jurisdiction over the enforcement of this act or any criminal or civil suits regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, or sex trafficking are considered universal jurisdiction and shall extend to all persons of all nationalities within or without the territory of Fernão regardless of the origin of the victim(s).

Quick repost of the edited bill in case someone is interested.

Interested, but I have a few notes.
  1. Section 1 is basically useless text. This isn't the WA. We don't have to provide justifications into the bill.
  2. Section 4 repeats itself for no reason.
  3. The title of Section 4 reads "Kidnap into forced servitude" the crime listed in the section is "coercion into forced servitude"
  4. Section 6.2 uses the term 'position' instead of 'possession'.
  5. Section 7.4 repeats the word cause.
  6. Section 13 follows Section 11 with not section 12.

2 -6 will be fixed. For 1, I agree that it has no substance to it, but the UN and the US do it IRN so I thought it would be a nice add.
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Postby House of Judah » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:10 am

Actually, one other note. On section 11, I'd change 'will be perpetually the property of' to 'may be seized and, when no longer required as evidence of a criminal act, disposed of by'.

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Postby Anere » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:13 am

House of Judah wrote:Actually, one other note. On section 11, I'd change 'will be perpetually the property of' to 'may be seized and, when no longer required as evidence of a criminal act, disposed of by'.

Ainin brought up a valid point that the evidence may be useful in future unseen investigations.
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Postby House of Judah » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:37 am

Anere wrote:
House of Judah wrote:Actually, one other note. On section 11, I'd change 'will be perpetually the property of' to 'may be seized and, when no longer required as evidence of a criminal act, disposed of by'.

Ainin brought up a valid point that the evidence may be useful in future unseen investigations.

Which is why it is a 'may' and not a shall.

Ainin wrote:Section 12 of the Act has a very real risk of eroding the transparency and capabilities of the Department of Public Prosecutions. In many cases, it is important to preserve evidence for accountability or use in future prosecutions, or because the evidence in question is culturally significant. The destruction of evidence should remain at the discretion of the independent Department of Public Prosecutions.

His point is that it should be in the hands of the Department of Public Prosecutions to determine whether or not it is still needed and, if not, how it should be disposed of (destruction, auction, put into use).

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Postby Anere » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:13 am

House of Judah wrote:
Anere wrote:Ainin brought up a valid point that the evidence may be useful in future unseen investigations.

Which is why it is a 'may' and not a shall.

Ainin wrote:Section 12 of the Act has a very real risk of eroding the transparency and capabilities of the Department of Public Prosecutions. In many cases, it is important to preserve evidence for accountability or use in future prosecutions, or because the evidence in question is culturally significant. The destruction of evidence should remain at the discretion of the independent Department of Public Prosecutions.

His point is that it should be in the hands of the Department of Public Prosecutions to determine whether or not it is still needed and, if not, how it should be disposed of (destruction, auction, put into use).

Point taken, I made the correction.
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Slavery and Human Trafficking Act

Sponsor: Angelina Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors: Leopoldo Agramonte (CU)
An act of the Senate of Fernão to make illegal the crimes of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes, and other purposes.

Section 1: Findings of the Senate
The Senate of Fernão finds that:
  1. it is absolutely necessary for any nation to have laws against slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.
  2. no law passed by the Senate of Fernão has, in any manner, prohibited or attempted the quell such crimes.
  3. no effort by any government institution has been made to aid those victims of crimes specifically related to slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and others.
  4. the Criminal Code of Fernão makes no provision regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, and similar crimes.

Section 2: Slavery
Whosoever
    1) claims to own another human being without the consent of that human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
    2) aids or abets in the practice of owning another human being for any reason and exercises supreme authority or control over that person by restricting their rights and freedoms without just cause;
is guilty of slavery, a delict, and will receive life imprisonment or imprisonment for no more than thirty-five years.

Section 3: Peonage
Whosoever
    1) captures another person or persons in order to render them in a state of peonage for unpaid debts of any kind or confines someone under the same conditions;
    2) forcibly compels another person to work to pay of debts of any kind;
    3) Attempts to render a person into a state of peonage for unpaid debts or aids and abets from such an enterprise;
is guilty of peonage, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 4: Coercion into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by any means kidnaps another person for the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    2) Coerces another human being into a location or agreement with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
    3) Offering the use of intoxicants or forcing the use of intoxicants with the intent of selling them into involuntary servitude, transporting them to another person who will use that person to sell into involuntary servitude, or to keep as their own slave;
is guilty of coercion into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.



Section 5: Sale into forced servitude
Whosoever
    1) by transaction of any kind transfers one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
    2) attempts to, by transaction of any kind, transfer one slave from the bondage of himself unto another
is guilty of sale into forced servitude, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 6: Transportation of slaves
Whosoever
    1) knowingly transports or aids in the transporting of slaves from Fernão under any circumstance;
    2) is found in possession of slaves on a vessel of any kind;
is guilty of transportation of slaves, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than ten years.


Section 7: Forced labour
Whosoever using the services of a labourer:
    1) uses force or threat of force against a person of labour;
    2) in any way seriously causes bodily harm or attempts to cause bodily harm upon a person of labour;
    3) is responsible for any method or plan to cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    4) is knowingly part of any scheme to cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
    5) benefits knowingly from any scheme to cause cause serious bodily harm or attempt to cause serious bodily harm to a person of labour;
is guilty of forced labour, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.


Section 8: Human Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) forcibly transports a human being from one location to another;
    2) receives any person of any kind knowingly obtained by methods of coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude or transportation of slaves as defined by this act;
    3) indulges in the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons for the explicit purpose of exploitation of persons for any purpose by use of force or threat of force;
is guilty of human trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years.


Section 9: Sex Trafficking
Whosoever
    1) commits human trafficking for the purpose of obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse;
    2) knowingly benefiting from the obtaining or soliciting sexual intercourse from human trafficking;
is guilty of sex trafficking, a delict, and will receive imprisonment for no more than twenty years if the person trafficked is under eighteen and life imprisonment if the person is under eighteen.



Section 10: Tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes
Whosoever
    1) destroys, confiscates, commits, expunges in any way, or possesses documents or evidence of human trafficking and related crimes under this act for the expressed purpose of tampering with an investigation into such crimes;
    2) obstructs, or in any way, attempts to obstruct with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes;
is guilty of tampering and obstructing with an investigation into human trafficking and slavery-related crimes and will receive imprisonment for no more than fifteen years.



Section 11: Property used for human trafficking or slavery-related crimes
Any property or asset
    1) used for the purpose of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
    2) that exists from any benefit, financial or otherwise, of slavery, peonage, coercion into forced servitude, sale into forced servitude, transportation of slaves, forced labour, human trafficking, sex trafficking, the aiding, abetting or benefiting of/from such crimes and the obstruction of such crimes;
'may be seized and, when no longer required as evidence of a criminal act, disposed of by the Public Prosecutor's Office and the Department of Justice.


Section 12: Regarding jurisdiction
The Department of Justice's jurisdiction over the enforcement of this act or any criminal or civil suits regarding the matters of slavery, peonage, human trafficking, or sex trafficking are considered universal jurisdiction and shall extend to all persons of all nationalities within or without the territory of Fernão regardless of the origin of the victim(s).

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Senate Committee for the Constitution Act
Sponsor: Angelina Maria Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors:

An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Senate Committee for the Constitution.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Establishment of the Senate Committee for the Constitution :
  1. The Senate of Fernão hereby establishes the Senate Committee for the Constitution as an ad hoc legislative body responsible to the Senate for the purpose of drafting, editing, and proposing a new Constitution for the Republic of Fernão.
  2. The Committee shall be made up of seven persons, one selected among the elected members to be primus inter pares Chairman.

§2 – Selection and removal of committee members:
  1. The Senate, upon passage of this act, will suspend all business. The President of the Senate will order for a twenty-four hour period to consider nominations for the Committee. To be recognized as a nominee, one must:
    1. be a member of the Senate before the passage of this act, and;
    2. publish a brief declaration on their prerogatives for the Constitution as well as a statement of beliefs, and;
    3. receive no less than three sponsors.
  2. The President of the Senate will order a twenty-four hour period for debate among the nominees and questions from Senators.
  3. Upon the competion of the debates, the President of the Senate will order division for forty-eight hours and will issue an instant-runoff ballot to all Senators. Those nominees who are the final seven will be named Committee members.
  4. Committee members may not be removed from their post by any means save death or permanent disability or a violation of §3 clause 5 of this Avt. Should such a case arise, the President of the Senate, in conjunction with the Majority and Minority Leaders, will select another member.
§3 – Drafting and editing of the proposed Constitution:
  1. Upon the conclusion of the votes and the selection of the Chairman, the Chairman shall declare a meeting of the Committee and lock the doors of the Committee chamber.
  2. Committee members will begin to submit drafts on sections of the proposed constitution or a Constitution in whole, which will be edited. The Committee will compile all relevant approved drafts together to form the fabric of the Constitution. From there, amendments may be proposed and voted on with majority consensus needed to approve amendments.
  3. A motion to close debate may be proposed by any member with two-thirds majority required to sustain, thereafter a simple majority will be required to approve the draft.
  4. if the Committee continues to be in deliberation for more than one month, a motion to close debate will only require a simple majority.
  5. All proceedings, drafts, and votes will be kept completely secret and no release of any kind of information shall be permitted under any circumstances under pain of removal from the committee until the committee votes to send a draft to the full Senate.

§4 – Amendments and approval in the Senate:
  1. If the Committee is finished with its business, it will report its draft to the President of the Senate, who will read the proposed Constitution.
  2. The Senate will begin the debate and amendments session. Any amendment to the Constitution will require five sponsors and the support of two-thirds of members over a twenty-four hour period. The debate and amendments session will not end until a Senator moves to close debate and vote, which will require the support of a simple majority.
  3. Once debate is closed, the Senate will begin a forty-eight hour voting period over the Constitution. Two-thirds of Senators voting will be necessary to approve the Constitution.
  4. If the Constitution is approved with a two-thirds majority, it shall go into force and the Senate will immediately adjourn for elections.
  5. If the Constitution is not passed, the Senate may either vote to send the draft back to Committee for reconsideration, select a new committee, or vote to abolish the committee.
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Postby Roosevetania » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:52 pm

Anere wrote:
Senate Committee for the Constitution Act
Sponsor: Angelina Maria Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors:

An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Senate Committee for the Constitution.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Establishment of the Senate Committee for the Constitution :
  1. The Senate of Fernão hereby establishes the Senate Committee for the Constitution as an ad hoc legislative body responsible to the Senate for the purpose of drafting, editing, and proposing a new Constitution for the Republic of Fernão.
  2. The Committee shall be made up of seven persons, one selected among the elected members to be primus inter pares Chairman.

§2 – Selection and removal of committee members:
  1. The Senate, upon passage of this act, will suspend all business. The President of the Senate will order for a twenty-four hour period to consider nominations for the Committee. To be recognized as a nominee, one must:
    1. be a member of the Senate before the passage of this act, and;
    2. publish a brief declaration on their prerogatives for the Constitution as well as a statement of beliefs, and;
    3. receive no less than three sponsors.
  2. The President of the Senate will order a twenty-four hour period for debate among the nominees and questions from Senators.
  3. Upon the competion of the debates, the President of the Senate will order division for forty-eight hours and will issue an instant-runoff ballot to all Senators. Those nominees who are the final seven will be named Committee members.
  4. Committee members may not be removed from their post by any means save death or permanent disability or a violation of §3 clause 5 of this Avt. Should such a case arise, the President of the Senate, in conjunction with the Majority and Minority Leaders, will select another member.
§3 – Drafting and editing of the proposed Constitution:
  1. Upon the conclusion of the votes and the selection of the Chairman, the Chairman shall declare a meeting of the Committee and lock the doors of the Committee chamber.
  2. Committee members will begin to submit drafts on sections of the proposed constitution or a Constitution in whole, which will be edited. The Committee will compile all relevant approved drafts together to form the fabric of the Constitution. From there, amendments may be proposed and voted on with majority consensus needed to approve amendments.
  3. A motion to close debate may be proposed by any member with two-thirds majority required to sustain, thereafter a simple majority will be required to approve the draft.
  4. if the Committee continues to be in deliberation for more than one month, a motion to close debate will only require a simple majority.
  5. All proceedings, drafts, and votes will be kept completely secret and no release of any kind of information shall be permitted under any circumstances under pain of removal from the committee until the committee votes to send a draft to the full Senate.

§4 – Amendments and approval in the Senate:
  1. If the Committee is finished with its business, it will report its draft to the President of the Senate, who will read the proposed Constitution.
  2. The Senate will begin the debate and amendments session. Any amendment to the Constitution will require five sponsors and the support of two-thirds of members over a twenty-four hour period. The debate and amendments session will not end until a Senator moves to close debate and vote, which will require the support of a simple majority.
  3. Once debate is closed, the Senate will begin a forty-eight hour voting period over the Constitution. Two-thirds of Senators voting will be necessary to approve the Constitution.
  4. If the Constitution is approved with a two-thirds majority, it shall go into force and the Senate will immediately adjourn for elections.
  5. If the Constitution is not passed, the Senate may either vote to send the draft back to Committee for reconsideration, select a new committee, or vote to abolish the committee.

I'm glad there's a bill for this now that NWO has dissolved the convention. However, I think it would be better if we had a constitutional convention of everyone.
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Roosevetania wrote:
Anere wrote:
Senate Committee for the Constitution Act
Sponsor: Angelina Maria Acosta (CU)
Co-Sponsors:

An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Senate Committee for the Constitution.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Establishment of the Senate Committee for the Constitution :
  1. The Senate of Fernão hereby establishes the Senate Committee for the Constitution as an ad hoc legislative body responsible to the Senate for the purpose of drafting, editing, and proposing a new Constitution for the Republic of Fernão.
  2. The Committee shall be made up of seven persons, one selected among the elected members to be primus inter pares Chairman.

§2 – Selection and removal of committee members:
  1. The Senate, upon passage of this act, will suspend all business. The President of the Senate will order for a twenty-four hour period to consider nominations for the Committee. To be recognized as a nominee, one must:
    1. be a member of the Senate before the passage of this act, and;
    2. publish a brief declaration on their prerogatives for the Constitution as well as a statement of beliefs, and;
    3. receive no less than three sponsors.
  2. The President of the Senate will order a twenty-four hour period for debate among the nominees and questions from Senators.
  3. Upon the competion of the debates, the President of the Senate will order division for forty-eight hours and will issue an instant-runoff ballot to all Senators. Those nominees who are the final seven will be named Committee members.
  4. Committee members may not be removed from their post by any means save death or permanent disability or a violation of §3 clause 5 of this Avt. Should such a case arise, the President of the Senate, in conjunction with the Majority and Minority Leaders, will select another member.
§3 – Drafting and editing of the proposed Constitution:
  1. Upon the conclusion of the votes and the selection of the Chairman, the Chairman shall declare a meeting of the Committee and lock the doors of the Committee chamber.
  2. Committee members will begin to submit drafts on sections of the proposed constitution or a Constitution in whole, which will be edited. The Committee will compile all relevant approved drafts together to form the fabric of the Constitution. From there, amendments may be proposed and voted on with majority consensus needed to approve amendments.
  3. A motion to close debate may be proposed by any member with two-thirds majority required to sustain, thereafter a simple majority will be required to approve the draft.
  4. if the Committee continues to be in deliberation for more than one month, a motion to close debate will only require a simple majority.
  5. All proceedings, drafts, and votes will be kept completely secret and no release of any kind of information shall be permitted under any circumstances under pain of removal from the committee until the committee votes to send a draft to the full Senate.

§4 – Amendments and approval in the Senate:
  1. If the Committee is finished with its business, it will report its draft to the President of the Senate, who will read the proposed Constitution.
  2. The Senate will begin the debate and amendments session. Any amendment to the Constitution will require five sponsors and the support of two-thirds of members over a twenty-four hour period. The debate and amendments session will not end until a Senator moves to close debate and vote, which will require the support of a simple majority.
  3. Once debate is closed, the Senate will begin a forty-eight hour voting period over the Constitution. Two-thirds of Senators voting will be necessary to approve the Constitution.
  4. If the Constitution is approved with a two-thirds majority, it shall go into force and the Senate will immediately adjourn for elections.
  5. If the Constitution is not passed, the Senate may either vote to send the draft back to Committee for reconsideration, select a new committee, or vote to abolish the committee.
I'm glad there's a bill for this now that NWO has dissolved the convention. However, I think it would be better if we had a constitutional convention of everyone.

I'm inclined to disagree. While there are benefits to having an open house where everyone can get involved, I think a smaller and more focused group of individuals would get the job done faster than a large and unorganized body of people. Also, Senators have the power to propose amendments on the proposal.
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If there's something you want to amend in the Constitution, write a bill for it. Please don't waste our time with all the pomp and circumstance.

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Postby Roosevetania » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:10 pm

Anere wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:
I'm glad there's a bill for this now that NWO has dissolved the convention. However, I think it would be better if we had a constitutional convention of everyone.

I'm inclined to disagree. While there are benefits to having an open house where everyone can get involved, I think a smaller and more focused group of individuals would get the job done faster than a large and unorganized body of people. Also, Senators have the power to propose amendments on the proposal.

In most past iterations we've had a constitutional convention and it's just OOCly much better for everyone to help craft it.
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Our Constitution needs a major overhaul and amendments won't fix it.
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Postby Anere » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:27 pm

New World Oceania wrote:If there's something you want to amend in the Constitution, write a bill for it. Please don't waste our time with all the pomp and circumstance.

But amendments aren't what's needed to fix the Constitution, an overhaul is. I don't think it's wise to entrust overhauling a constitution and writing a new one on one person, regardless of who they are. Isn't one person writing a constitution the reason behind why the current one has failed?

Roosevetania wrote:
Anere wrote:I'm inclined to disagree. While there are benefits to having an open house where everyone can get involved, I think a smaller and more focused group of individuals would get the job done faster than a large and unorganized body of people. Also, Senators have the power to propose amendments on the proposal.

In most past iterations we've had a constitutional convention and it's just OOCly much better for everyone to help craft it.

And have any of these conventions, aside from the Aurentinian one, created a successful nation? To reiterate my previous point, Senators will have the ability to propose amendments and reject the bill as they are the final deciders, the Committee exists to gather things up and present it in a constructive fashion.
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Constitutional Amendment
Author: Elsinore Ophelia-Eliot (PA)
Sponsors: Office of the Presidency
An amendment amending Chapter IV of the Constitution.


Section I
a. Article LXIII shall be amended to read:

"Full legislative authority shall be vested in the bicameral legislature of Fernão, consisting of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate."

b. Article LXIV shall be amended to read:

"Members of the Chamber of Deputies shall be titled Deputies and members of the Senate shall be titled Senators."

c. Article LXV shall be amended to read:

"The composition of the Assembly as well as electorates shall be further established by later legislation. The Senate shall consist of one Senator from each state and free city."

d. Article LXVI shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies must fulfill the following criteria in order to hold office:
  1. Senators and Deputies must be over the age of majority as established by law.
  2. Senators and Deputies must be a member of their electorate at the time of their election
  3. Senators and Deputies must not be convicted of any felonies carrying sentence of imprisonment for period greater than twelve (12) months, as issued by a competent court with appropriate jurisdiction, unless such felonies are discharged through special dispensation provided by the Supreme Court on basis of the sufficient rehabilitation, or otherwise presenting doubt upon the original conviction.
  4. Senators and Deputies must be of sound mental and physical health."
e. Article LXVII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies shall take the following oath before assuming office: “I, [name] do solemnly swear that I will faithfully uphold the laws of Fernão to the best of my abilities, that I will protect the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Fernão, and that I shall consider it my utmost solemn duty to protect the sovereignty and democracy of Fernão, so help me (God).”"

f. Article LXVIII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies may be recalled from office should a petition of ⅛ of voters in their electorate be lodged with relevant electoral officials demanding a recall vote, further proceedings shall be further established by later legislation."

g. Article LXIX shall be amended to read:

"Should a Senator or Deputy be convicted and sentenced to imprisonment, their office shall be declared vacant and a by-election must be scheduled by relevant electoral officials."

Section II
a. Article LXX shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the lower house."

b. Article LXXIII shall be struck.

c. Article LXXVI shall be struck.

d. Article LXXVII shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to impeach and try the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes.

Section III
a. Chapter IV, Section III is amended to read:

"Section III - Powers of the Chamber of Deputies"

Article LXXVIII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to propose and pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the upper house.

Article LXXIX -The Chamber of Deputies shall have the sole power to appropriate funds.

Article LXXX - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to set its own rules through resolution.

Article LXXXI - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to choose its presiding officer.

Article LXXXII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to impeach the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes."

b. Chapter IV, Section IV shall be amended to read:

"Section IV - Bills

Article LXXXIII - This article intentionally left blank.

Article LXXXIV - Any Deputy may sponsor a bill for consideration of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate, provided that three (3) other Deputies cosponsor the bill.

Article LXXXV - Bills must have a long title which clearly defines the purpose and scope of the bill.

Article LXXXVI - Appropriations bills shall be exempt from the above clause."
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New World Oceania wrote:

Constitutional (Amendments) Amendment
Author: Elsinore Ophelia-Eliot (PA)
Sponsors: Office of the Presidency
An amendment amending Chapter IV of the Constitution.


Section I
a. Article LXIII shall be amended to read:

"Full legislative authority shall be vested in the bicameral legislature of Fernão, consisting of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate."

b. Article LXIV shall be amended to read:

"Members of the Chamber of Deputies shall be titled Deputies and members of the Senate shall be titled Senators."

c. Article LXV shall be amended to read:

"The composition of the Assembly as well as electorates shall be further established by later legislation. The Senate shall consist of one Senator from each state and free city."

d. Article LXVI shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies must fulfill the following criteria in order to hold office:
  1. Senators and Deputies must be over the age of majority as established by law.
  2. Senators and Deputies must be a member of their electorate at the time of their election
  3. Senators and Deputies must not be convicted of any felonies carrying sentence of imprisonment for period greater than twelve (12) months, as issued by a competent court with appropriate jurisdiction, unless such felonies are discharged through special dispensation provided by the Supreme Court on basis of the sufficient rehabilitation, or otherwise presenting doubt upon the original conviction.
  4. Senators and Deputies must be of sound mental and physical health."
e. Article LXVII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies shall take the following oath before assuming office: “I, [name] do solemnly swear that I will faithfully uphold the laws of Fernão to the best of my abilities, that I will protect the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Fernão, and that I shall consider it my utmost solemn duty to protect the sovereignty and democracy of Fernão, so help me (God).”"

f. Article LXVIII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies may be recalled from office should a petition of ⅛ of voters in their electorate be lodged with relevant electoral officials demanding a recall vote, further proceedings shall be further established by later legislation."

g. Article LXIX shall be amended to read:

"Should a Senator or Deputy be convicted and sentenced to imprisonment, their office shall be declared vacant and a by-election must be scheduled by relevant electoral officials."

Section II
a. Article LXX shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the lower house."

b. Article LXXIII shall be struck.

c. Article LXXVI shall be struck.

d. Article LXXVII shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to impeach and try the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes.

Section III
a. Chapter IV, Section III is amended to read:

"Section III - Powers of the Chamber of Deputies"

Article LXXVIII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to propose and pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the upper house.

Article LXXIX -The Chamber of Deputies shall have the sole power to appropriate funds.

Article LXXX - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to set its own rules through resolution.

Article LXXXI - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to choose its presiding officer.

Article LXXXII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to impeach the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes."

b. Chapter IV, Section IV shall be amended to read:

"Section IV - Bills

Article LXXXIII - This article intentionally left blank.

Article LXXXIV - Any Deputy may sponsor a bill for consideration of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate, provided that three (3) other Deputies cosponsor the bill.

Article LXXXV - Bills must have a long title which clearly defines the purpose and scope of the bill.

Article LXXXVI - Appropriations bills shall be exempt from the above clause."

Why do you want a bicameral legislature? Have we ever had one in the past? And how would this work OOCly?
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Postby New World Oceania » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:46 pm

I want it for namely OOC reasons. I think it could improve activity and add another dimension to the roleplay, while ensuring that we pass bills more slowly, and at the same time giving people reason to pick a constituency.

We would do it just like the presidency and governorships, by having multiple characters, which I think is a great addition to the roleplay. Elections would require people to choose states to vote.

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Postby Anere » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:47 am

New World Oceania wrote:

Constitutional Amendment
Author: Elsinore Ophelia-Eliot (PA)
Sponsors: Office of the Presidency
An amendment amending Chapter IV of the Constitution.


Section I
a. Article LXIII shall be amended to read:

"Full legislative authority shall be vested in the bicameral legislature of Fernão, consisting of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate."

b. Article LXIV shall be amended to read:

"Members of the Chamber of Deputies shall be titled Deputies and members of the Senate shall be titled Senators."

c. Article LXV shall be amended to read:

"The composition of the Assembly as well as electorates shall be further established by later legislation. The Senate shall consist of one Senator from each state and free city."

d. Article LXVI shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies must fulfill the following criteria in order to hold office:
  1. Senators and Deputies must be over the age of majority as established by law.
  2. Senators and Deputies must be a member of their electorate at the time of their election
  3. Senators and Deputies must not be convicted of any felonies carrying sentence of imprisonment for period greater than twelve (12) months, as issued by a competent court with appropriate jurisdiction, unless such felonies are discharged through special dispensation provided by the Supreme Court on basis of the sufficient rehabilitation, or otherwise presenting doubt upon the original conviction.
  4. Senators and Deputies must be of sound mental and physical health."
e. Article LXVII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies shall take the following oath before assuming office: “I, [name] do solemnly swear that I will faithfully uphold the laws of Fernão to the best of my abilities, that I will protect the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Fernão, and that I shall consider it my utmost solemn duty to protect the sovereignty and democracy of Fernão, so help me (God).”"

f. Article LXVIII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies may be recalled from office should a petition of ⅛ of voters in their electorate be lodged with relevant electoral officials demanding a recall vote, further proceedings shall be further established by later legislation."

g. Article LXIX shall be amended to read:

"Should a Senator or Deputy be convicted and sentenced to imprisonment, their office shall be declared vacant and a by-election must be scheduled by relevant electoral officials."

Section II
a. Article LXX shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the lower house."

b. Article LXXIII shall be struck.

c. Article LXXVI shall be struck.

d. Article LXXVII shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to impeach and try the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes.

Section III
a. Chapter IV, Section III is amended to read:

"Section III - Powers of the Chamber of Deputies"

Article LXXVIII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to propose and pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the upper house.

Article LXXIX -The Chamber of Deputies shall have the sole power to appropriate funds.

Article LXXX - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to set its own rules through resolution.

Article LXXXI - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to choose its presiding officer.

Article LXXXII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to impeach the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes."

b. Chapter IV, Section IV shall be amended to read:

"Section IV - Bills

Article LXXXIII - This article intentionally left blank.

Article LXXXIV - Any Deputy may sponsor a bill for consideration of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate, provided that three (3) other Deputies cosponsor the bill.

Article LXXXV - Bills must have a long title which clearly defines the purpose and scope of the bill.

Article LXXXVI - Appropriations bills shall be exempt from the above clause."

The Senate isn't the only problem or the main problem. Amendments to the executive and judiciary are also very necessary as well as other amendments to help the constitution flow smoothly. The current constitution is broken beyond repair and a new one is necessary.
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Postby New World Oceania » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:30 am

Anere wrote:
New World Oceania wrote:

Constitutional Amendment
Author: Elsinore Ophelia-Eliot (PA)
Sponsors: Office of the Presidency
An amendment amending Chapter IV of the Constitution.


Section I
a. Article LXIII shall be amended to read:

"Full legislative authority shall be vested in the bicameral legislature of Fernão, consisting of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate."

b. Article LXIV shall be amended to read:

"Members of the Chamber of Deputies shall be titled Deputies and members of the Senate shall be titled Senators."

c. Article LXV shall be amended to read:

"The composition of the Assembly as well as electorates shall be further established by later legislation. The Senate shall consist of one Senator from each state and free city."

d. Article LXVI shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies must fulfill the following criteria in order to hold office:
  1. Senators and Deputies must be over the age of majority as established by law.
  2. Senators and Deputies must be a member of their electorate at the time of their election
  3. Senators and Deputies must not be convicted of any felonies carrying sentence of imprisonment for period greater than twelve (12) months, as issued by a competent court with appropriate jurisdiction, unless such felonies are discharged through special dispensation provided by the Supreme Court on basis of the sufficient rehabilitation, or otherwise presenting doubt upon the original conviction.
  4. Senators and Deputies must be of sound mental and physical health."
e. Article LXVII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies shall take the following oath before assuming office: “I, [name] do solemnly swear that I will faithfully uphold the laws of Fernão to the best of my abilities, that I will protect the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Fernão, and that I shall consider it my utmost solemn duty to protect the sovereignty and democracy of Fernão, so help me (God).”"

f. Article LXVIII shall be amended to read:

"Senators and Deputies may be recalled from office should a petition of ⅛ of voters in their electorate be lodged with relevant electoral officials demanding a recall vote, further proceedings shall be further established by later legislation."

g. Article LXIX shall be amended to read:

"Should a Senator or Deputy be convicted and sentenced to imprisonment, their office shall be declared vacant and a by-election must be scheduled by relevant electoral officials."

Section II
a. Article LXX shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the lower house."

b. Article LXXIII shall be struck.

c. Article LXXVI shall be struck.

d. Article LXXVII shall be amended to read:

"The Senate shall have the power to impeach and try the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes.

Section III
a. Chapter IV, Section III is amended to read:

"Section III - Powers of the Chamber of Deputies"

Article LXXVIII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to propose and pass resolutions and legislation, and to amend legislation previously passed, with the consent of the upper house.

Article LXXIX -The Chamber of Deputies shall have the sole power to appropriate funds.

Article LXXX - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to set its own rules through resolution.

Article LXXXI - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to choose its presiding officer.

Article LXXXII - The Chamber of Deputies shall have the power to impeach the President or any Presidential appointees from office for dereliction of duty, gross incompetence, or other high crimes."

b. Chapter IV, Section IV shall be amended to read:

"Section IV - Bills

Article LXXXIII - This article intentionally left blank.

Article LXXXIV - Any Deputy may sponsor a bill for consideration of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate, provided that three (3) other Deputies cosponsor the bill.

Article LXXXV - Bills must have a long title which clearly defines the purpose and scope of the bill.

Article LXXXVI - Appropriations bills shall be exempt from the above clause."

The Senate isn't the only problem or the main problem. Amendments to the executive and judiciary are also very necessary as well as other amendments to help the constitution flow smoothly. The current constitution is broken beyond repair and a new one is necessary.

This isn't a response to your desire for a constitutional convention. If you hate how our country works write your own amendments.

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Postby Roosevetania » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:37 am


Senate Rules and Order
Author: Ana Ernst (MNP)
Sponsors:


A resolution to establish rules for and keep order in the Senate of Fernao.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


Rule I: The President of the Senate

a. The Senate shall elect a President of the Senate after each election.
b. There shall be a nomination period for twenty-four (24) hours, followed by a twenty-four (24) hour election, with nominees that have at least five (5) seconds from other senators advancing to the election. Nominations do not count as seconds.
c. The election shall use IRV should more than two (2) senators meet the requirement, and shall use first past the post if only two (2) candidates meet the requirement.
c. The President of the Senate shall be completely unbiased and nonpartisan, and must give up all party affiliations when elected.
d. The President of the Senate must preside and rule in a fair and unbiased manner.
e. The President of the Senate may name president pro tempores to preside over the Senate when the President is unable to.
f. The President and president pro tempores of the Senate shall preside over the Senate and enforce the Senate rules.

Rule II: Decorum

a. Senators shall be respectful of all Senators in the chamber, and address each other as, ‘The Honorable Senator’, ‘My Honorable Colleague’, ‘The Senator from (constituency)’, or simple terms such as the ‘previous speaker’ or equivalent.
b. Senators shall always address the President of the Senate when making statements or asking questions in the chamber.
c. Senators may not use unparliamentary language during debate or in the Chamber, language deemed unparliamentary shall be decided at the discretion of the President of the Senate.
d. Senators may not impugn the integrity or dignity of another Senator when in the Chamber.
e. Senators may not call for violence against another Senator when in the Chamber.
f. Senators may not physically harm another Senator when in the Chamber.
g. Senators may not unnecessarily obstruct the business of the Chamber.
h. Senators may not impugn the dignity and integrity of the President of the Senate or the Office of the President of the Senate.
i. Senators may not engage in disorderly conduct as determined by the President of the Senate when in the Chamber.
j. Should there be gross disorder, the President of the Senate may suspend proceedings of the Chamber without putting the question.

Rule III: Removal From the Chamber

a. The President of the Senate may order a Senator to leave the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the question should they continue to breach decorum.
b. Should a Senator refuse to leave the Chamber under Standing Rule IIIA, they may be named.
c. Should a Senator refuse to be leave the chamber under Standing Rule IIIA, they may be detained and removed by Parliamentary Police.
d. Senators may be named for up to three (3) days.

Rule IV: Debate

a. Debate in the chamber must be relevant to the question at hand.
b. Should a Senator discuss unrelated matters without justification, the President of the Senate may call them to order.
c. Debate on any question may never breach decorum.
d. Debate on bills, confirmation of presidential appointees, and treaty ratifications shall last a minimum of twenty four hours.
e. A President pro tempore may not chair a debate in which they have taken part in.

Rule V: The Senate Schedule

a. Each Monday morning, the President shall set a schedule for the week.
b. The schedule shall consist of debate on four (4) different bills on four (4) different days (Monday through Thursday), followed by two days of voting simultaneously on all bills debated for two (2) days (Friday and Saturday), followed by General Speeches on Sunday.
c. The schedule may be altered should urgent business arise or with a motion and second from ten (10) senators.

Rule VI: General Speeches

a. During the time designated by the President of the Senate, Senators may give speeches on any topic they choose.
b. General speeches may never breach decorum and fall under the same rules as other Senate procedures.

Rule VII: Voting Procedures

a. Votes on bills, resolutions, confirmations of presidential nominees, ratification of treaties, and electing the President of the Senate shall last a minimum of twenty four hours.
b. Discussion other than to inform the President of the Senate of important information is out of order during voting periods.
c. The President of the Senate may not vote unless breaking a tie.

Rule VIII: Proxy Voting

a. Senators may proxy their vote to a designated Senator by notifying the President of the Senate, or if the proxy shows evidence to the President of the Senate designating them as a proxy.
b. Proxy voting is not in order during election of the President of the Senate, votes on amendments, adopting committee recommendations, and motions to proceed.

Rule IX: Amendments

a. During debate on a bill, senators may offer amendments to the bill.
b. The author of a bill may move any amendment which need not be voted on. The author may agree to a proposed amendment which also need not be voted on.
c. Any amendment not agreed to by the author that has garnered at least five (5) seconds must be voted on along with the bill.
d. Amendments to bills must be pertinent to the bill at hand.
e. Nongermane amendments are never in order.

Rule X: Executive Session

a. Executive sessions shall be set on the agenda by the President of the Senate.
b. During executive sessions, treaties and presidential nominations shall be debated and voted.
c. There shall be a twenty four (24) hour debate period followed by a twenty four (24) hour voting period for each piece of business.
d. The executive session shall last until all nominees have been confirmed or rejected or all treaties ratified or rejected.

Rule XII: On the Confirmation of Presidential Nominees

a. Upon notification to the Senate by the President of Fernão of their nominations to respective offices, the President of the Senate will keep a list of nominees and will set an executive session on the agenda.
b. When the Senate enters executive session, debate on the nominees shall commence.
c. Nominees shall be debated and voted upon altogether in blocs.
d. After at least forty-eight (48) hours of debate, the Senate shall vote on the nominees for at least twenty-four (24) hours.
e. The President of Fernão shall nominate a new candidate in the place of any nominee that is rejected by the Senate.
[OOC: This is saying we'll vote on all the President's individual nominees at the same time and any nominees that fail, the President will have to nominate someone else. Ex: Secretary of Foreign Affairs nominee: AYE Secretary of FInance: AYE,
etc.: they're voted on altogether.]

Rule XIII: On the Ratification of Treaties

a. Upon notification to the Senate by the President of Fernão of the submission of a treaty the President of the Senate will set an executive session on the agenda.
b. When the Senate enters executive session, debate on the proposed treaty shall commence.
c. After at least forty-eight (48) hours of debate, the Senate shall vote on the proposed treaty for at least twenty-four (24) hours.


This is my very first bill, so it probably has some issues or typos. I just basically rewrote Lykens's standing rules to get rid of bill readings, Majority and Minority Leaders, and committees.

Questions? Comments? Concerns? Sponsors?
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Postby New World Oceania » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:09 pm

Once the Senate Rules Resolution passes, we will be able to adopt standing rules addressing these topics. There is no need to write an adversarial bill on the matter.

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Postby Davincia » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:27 pm

Davincia wrote:I'll sponsor the Slavery and Human Trafficking Act.
In the meantime, I'll dig these two bills back up.

Animal Protections Act

    Author: Leopoldo Agramonte (CU)
    Sponsors: Rob Kattur (CPF), Angelina Maria Acosta (CU), Francis Fendupont (CU)
   
An act to defend nonhuman creatures from unnecessary harm.


    Section 1: Definitions
   
Animal- A life form that is objectively nonhuman, and is also a member of the Animalia kingdom.
   Blood sport- Any manmade sport intended to inflict injury or death upon and between participating animals.
Undue cruelty- Acts which may include starvation, unnecessary beatings, torture, isolation, and poaching of endangered species.
Endangered- At risk for extinction or likely to become extinct.

    Section 2: Features
   
Any animal that is kept in human possession must be provided with sufficient water, appropriate sustenance, and proper living space in order to retain ownership. Physical harm brought unto an animal that is owned, except as a means of self-defense or in the defense of others or of private property, is hereby prohibited. The government shall deprive any animal when basic needs are neglected by the owner in question.

    Section 3: Guidelines
   
    1) Blood sport, which includes (but is not limited to) cockfighting and its derivatives, will not exist within Fernão or any territory under its jurisdiction.
        2) The selling and purchasing of endangered animals for the purposes of consumption is hereby prohibited.
        3) The usage of bear traps for hunting will no longer be present in any capacity.
        4) Recreational hunting/fishing, where undue cruelty is brought onto an animal, is henceforth banned.


Constitutional (Enfranchisement) Amendment
Author: Leopoldo Agramonte (CU)
Sponsors: Ana Ernst (MNP), Angelina Maria Acosta (CU), Francis Fendupont (CU)
An amendment to the Constitution to reintegrate veterans and former servicemen/servicewomen.


Article IX, Section 2 of the Constitution is removed in its entirety.
Article X, Section 3 of the Constitution will be subsequently removed.

Sponsors get free hugs.
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