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Eshan
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Postby Eshan » Wed May 31, 2017 12:18 pm

"So ordered, the second reading of the proposed Second Amendment to the Standing Rules shall commence. Amendments shall be offered for twelve hours."
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Postby Lykens » Wed May 31, 2017 1:11 pm

"The President pro tempores of the Senate are Michael Ferreira and Iyasu Isaias Mengistu, I am absolutely appalled that the minority leader is attempting a parliamentary coup to advance his obstructionist agenda, Mister President, I ask that you resume the chair and restore proper order."
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Postby The Sarian » Wed May 31, 2017 1:23 pm

"Mr President, as Parliamentary Private Secretary to President Krishnan, I am pleased to tell the house that the President has signed the Criminal Code into law."
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Postby FreYhill » Wed May 31, 2017 2:29 pm

Lykens wrote:"The President pro tempores of the Senate are Michael Ferreira and Iyasu Isaias Mengistu, I am absolutely appalled that the minority leader is attempting a parliamentary coup to advance his obstructionist agenda, Mister President, I ask that you resume the chair and restore proper order."

"Hear Hear. The Red-Green Alliance and the former president pro-tempore should feel ashamed of themselves! This is sure to be non-binding Mr President, or we have a serious problem."
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Postby Paketo » Wed May 31, 2017 2:39 pm

Lykens wrote:"The President pro tempores of the Senate are Michael Ferreira and Iyasu Isaias Mengistu, I am absolutely appalled that the minority leader is attempting a parliamentary coup to advance his obstructionist agenda, Mister President, I ask that you resume the chair and restore proper order."


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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 2:44 pm

Lykens wrote:"The President pro tempores of the Senate are Michael Ferreira and Iyasu Isaias Mengistu, I am absolutely appalled that the minority leader is attempting a parliamentary coup to advance his obstructionist agenda, Mister President, I ask that you resume the chair and restore proper order."

"Mr. President, what is shameful is the Civic Union's use of an innocent and harmless mistake to score political points. The new term has only just started, so I am sure it was simply forgetfulness, and I am confident that Senator van Laren Cruyff had no malicious intentions."

"I second Senator Bloom's motion."
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Postby Lykens » Wed May 31, 2017 2:47 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Lykens wrote:"The President pro tempores of the Senate are Michael Ferreira and Iyasu Isaias Mengistu, I am absolutely appalled that the minority leader is attempting a parliamentary coup to advance his obstructionist agenda, Mister President, I ask that you resume the chair and restore proper order."

"Mr. President, what is shameful is the Civic Union's use of an innocent and harmless mistake to score political points. The new term has only just started, so I am sure it was simply forgetfulness, and I am confident that Senator van Laren Cruyff had no malicious intentions."

"I second Senator Bloom's motion."

"Mister President, the only shame in this chamber is the Senator's pitiful attempt to defend his own hypocrisy, blasting the former President of the Senate for grabbing power when he adhered to this Senate's precedents, but excusing a simple mistake of his own party leader in blatantly disregarding the rules of this august body and assuming powers he does not have."
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 2:50 pm

Lykens wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:"Mr. President, what is shameful is the Civic Union's use of an innocent and harmless mistake to score political points. The new term has only just started, so I am sure it was simply forgetfulness, and I am confident that Senator van Laren Cruyff had no malicious intentions."

"I second Senator Bloom's motion."

"Mister President, the only shame in this chamber is the Senator's pitiful attempt to defend his own hypocrisy, blasting the former President of the Senate for grabbing power when he adhered to this Senate's precedents, but excusing a simple mistake of his own party leader in blatantly disregarding the rules of this august body and assuming powers he does not have."

"Mister President, when Senator Jindal seized the Senate Presidency, it was a blatant power grab. That is different from innocent forgetfulness. It is unacceptable that the Civic Union is using this to try to make the RGA look bad."
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Postby Lykens » Wed May 31, 2017 2:52 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Lykens wrote:"Mister President, the only shame in this chamber is the Senator's pitiful attempt to defend his own hypocrisy, blasting the former President of the Senate for grabbing power when he adhered to this Senate's precedents, but excusing a simple mistake of his own party leader in blatantly disregarding the rules of this august body and assuming powers he does not have."

"Mister President, when Senator Jindal seized the Senate Presidency, it was a blatant power grab. That is different from innocent forgetfulness. It is unacceptable that the Civic Union is using this to try to make the RGA look bad."

"Mister President, if this Senator does not understand the rules and precedents of this august body, I'd suggest he take his seat and cease spouting his terminological inexactitudes."
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 2:55 pm

Lykens wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:"Mister President, when Senator Jindal seized the Senate Presidency, it was a blatant power grab. That is different from innocent forgetfulness. It is unacceptable that the Civic Union is using this to try to make the RGA look bad."

"Mister President, if this Senator does not understand the rules and precedents of this august body, I'd suggest he take his seat and cease spouting his terminological inexactitudes."

"Mister President, the Senator can be assured that I understand the rules of the Senate. But if a person unintentionally drives 26 kilometers per hour in a 25 kilometer per hour zone, this doesn't mean they don't understand rules or are a criminal."
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Postby Lykens » Wed May 31, 2017 2:58 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Lykens wrote:"Mister President, if this Senator does not understand the rules and precedents of this august body, I'd suggest he take his seat and cease spouting his terminological inexactitudes."

"Mister President, the Senator can be assured that I understand the rules of the Senate. But if a person unintentionally drives 26 kilometers per hour in a 25 kilometer per hour zone, this doesn't mean they don't understand rules or are a criminal."

"Mister President, driving an iota over the speed limit is not going to cause the damage that the RGA is intent on wreaking on this country. It is absolutely intolerable, and the gentleman should cease his pathetic attempts at justifying this hypocritical and downright constitutionally dangerous action."
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 3:03 pm

Lykens wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:"Mister President, the Senator can be assured that I understand the rules of the Senate. But if a person unintentionally drives 26 kilometers per hour in a 25 kilometer per hour zone, this doesn't mean they don't understand rules or are a criminal."

"Mister President, driving an iota over the speed limit is not going to cause the damage that the RGA is intent on wreaking on this country. It is absolutely intolerable, and the gentleman should cease his pathetic attempts at justifying this hypocritical and downright constitutionally dangerous action."

"Mr. President, the Senator should remember that the RGA cannot wreak any of its 'damage,' seeing as her own party is in power. We will have to let Priscilla Krishnan wreak her damage. Furthermore, I am not 'justifying a constitutionally dangerous action,' but standing up to the Civic Union's determination to criticize and politicize anything, anything, the RGA does."
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All Lukania
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Postby All Lukania » Wed May 31, 2017 3:04 pm

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Postby Collatis » Wed May 31, 2017 3:05 pm

"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."

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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 3:07 pm

Collatis wrote:"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."

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Postby Lykens » Wed May 31, 2017 3:10 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Lykens wrote:"Mister President, driving an iota over the speed limit is not going to cause the damage that the RGA is intent on wreaking on this country. It is absolutely intolerable, and the gentleman should cease his pathetic attempts at justifying this hypocritical and downright constitutionally dangerous action."

"Mr. President, the Senator should remember that the RGA cannot wreak any of its 'damage,' seeing as her own party is in power. We will have to let Priscilla Krishnan wreak her damage. Furthermore, I am not 'justifying a constitutionally dangerous action,' but standing up to the Civic Union's determination to criticize and politicize anything, anything, the RGA does."

"Mister President, the gentleman talks himself in circles, I suggest once again that he sits down before he makes himself dizzy."
Collatis wrote:"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."

"Mister President, the Minority Leader and I were involved in advising the appointment of your deputies, his veiled attempts at glossing this over as a small mix up is bogus and Fernão deserves better. I will not have him deflect on this issue of grave misconduct, and I am aghast by his attempts to do so."
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 3:15 pm

Lykens wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:"Mr. President, the Senator should remember that the RGA cannot wreak any of its 'damage,' seeing as her own party is in power. We will have to let Priscilla Krishnan wreak her damage. Furthermore, I am not 'justifying a constitutionally dangerous action,' but standing up to the Civic Union's determination to criticize and politicize anything, anything, the RGA does."

"Mister President, the gentleman talks himself in circles, I suggest once again that he sits down before he makes himself dizzy."
Collatis wrote:"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."

"Mister President, the Minority Leader and I were involved in advising the appointment of your deputies, his veiled attempts at glossing this over as a small mix up is bogus and Fernão deserves better. I will not have him deflect on this issue of grave misconduct, and I am aghast by his attempts to do so."

"Mister President, the Majority Leader's attempt to characterize this as a huge issue or crisis is absolutely absurd. Her persistence to focus on a small mix-up and delay other business is shameful. We as the Senate and Indira Tamboli as the Majority Leader should back to the job we were assigned: to represent the people and build a better Fernao."
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Postby Collatis » Wed May 31, 2017 3:20 pm

Lykens wrote:
Collatis wrote:"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."

"Mister President, the Minority Leader and I were involved in advising the appointment of your deputies, his veiled attempts at glossing this over as a small mix up is bogus and Fernão deserves better. I will not have him deflect on this issue of grave misconduct, and I am aghast by his attempts to do so."

"Mister President, as I am sure you already know, I was not remotely involved in the appointment of your deputies."

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Postby Malgrave » Wed May 31, 2017 3:21 pm

Collatis wrote:"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."


"Hear Hear, Mister President. Let's hope the Majority 'Leader' can move past cheap political bickering and instead focus on getting this country moving forward."
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Postby Roosevetania » Wed May 31, 2017 3:22 pm

Malgrave wrote:
Collatis wrote:"Mister President, the former president pro tempore and I made a mistake. How this remotely qualifies as a 'coup' is beyond me. Perhaps if the Majority 'Leader' could move past her strange and forced attempts to score political points, then her untenable accusations of partisan obstructionism might be less hypocritical."


"Hear Hear, Mister President. Let's hope the Majority 'Leader' can move past cheap political bickering and instead focus on getting this country moving forward."

"Hear, Hear!"
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed May 31, 2017 3:46 pm

Eshan wrote:"So ordered, the second reading of the proposed Second Amendment to the Standing Rules shall commence. Amendments shall be offered for twelve hours."


Raj Jindal walks in, shock to see someone impersonating the Speaker. He looks at the guards, where he is equally shocked to see them doing nothing.

"What the hell," shouts Raj. "Guards, seize the imposer! They are making a mockery out of this chamber!"

The guards run towards the person and promptly remove the person. Raj walks up and looks around the chamber. He then looks down to see the same person ended the vote. Raj shakes his head as he slams Mjolnir.

"ORDER! This chamber will now come to order!

The seconding reading of the bill will now be suspended, given that the person is not a President pro tempore. Fellow members will have to repeat the motion and garnish it seconds. I am shock and appalled that fellow senators would go along with this in my absence. I will not tolerate such behavior in this chamber and this better not happen again."

"Also, the vote has concluded and as such, the results are official and recognize as The Criminal Code of Fernão passing with seventeen ayes and three nays, and The Second Amendment to the Standing Rules has passed with fifteen ayes and five nays, and may proceed to a second reading."

"Madam, I ask you re-state your signing of the Criminal Code of Fernão since the official announcement was done by one not appointed to the position of President pro tempore. I am sorry for the inconvenience."

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Postby Collatis » Wed May 31, 2017 3:49 pm

"Mister President, if it is necessary, I once again move to proceed to the second reading of the Second Amendment to the Standing Rules."

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Postby Malgrave » Wed May 31, 2017 3:50 pm

Collatis wrote:"Mister President, if it is necessary, I once again move to proceed to the second reading of the Second Amendment to the Standing Rules."


"and I second this motion, Mister President."
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Postby Lykens » Wed May 31, 2017 3:54 pm

"Mister President, I move to proceed to the first reading of the National Bureau of Elections Act."
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Postby Martune » Wed May 31, 2017 4:04 pm

Lykens wrote:"Mister President, I move to proceed to the first reading of the National Bureau of Elections Act."

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