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Tectonix
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Postby Tectonix » Wed May 24, 2017 8:17 pm

"Mr. President, have you appointed a serjeant-at-arms yet?"
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Postby Improved werpland » Wed May 24, 2017 8:32 pm

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Natanians and Nosts
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Postby Natanians and Nosts » Wed May 24, 2017 9:05 pm

I have one question to ask.
Firstly,according to §4,the Federal Police needs authorisation to perform investigations and surveillance,but it assumes that investigation and surveillance can be made without previous authorisation,if so I ask why to void these proofs and why not let the judiciary powers to decide whether it is worth to use the proofs?
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Postby House of Judah » Wed May 24, 2017 9:18 pm

Natanians and Nosts wrote:I have one question to ask.
Firstly,according to §4,the Federal Police needs authorisation to perform investigations and surveillance,but it assumes that investigation and surveillance can be made without previous authorisation,if so I ask why to void these proofs and why not let the judiciary powers to decide whether it is worth to use the proofs?

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Postby FreYhill » Wed May 24, 2017 10:04 pm

"Mr. President,

I congratulate you on your election as President of the Senate. I had great fun whilst I was in the chair. If you have any issues my office is an open door.

I also wish to congratulate my close friend and former opponent President Princilla Krishnan on her election as President of the Federal Republic. Although we tend to verse each other in the primaries we continue to have a strong cherishing relationship, which shows your true personality. A kind hearted woman who has the interests of Fernão close to her chest. I know you won't let us down.

Mr. President,

I see no issues with the current bill at hand and I intend to vote in favour of it. As the Chief Whip of the Civic Union I also urge my fellow party members to get behind it as well. We need to have the right framework for our government to work. We need our government to work and we need it to work well. I believe that the Federal Police Act does such things and I look forward to discussing more bills with my fellow senators for the rest of my time in this prestigious chamber."
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu May 25, 2017 1:40 am

House of Judah wrote:"Mister President, I have a few concerns with this act as written. Starting with the first concern, there is no mention of theft, assault, murder and a number of other crimes against person or property in the jurisdiction of the Federal Police. These are among the most direct and clear forms of criminal acts and should be included within the provisions of this act.

"Second, while I would not want our people to fear a police force that may be too quick too apply lethal force, I am concerned that the framework for deadly force laid out in this act may be too narrow. The wording could easily leave us in scenario where an armed perpetrator is [i]threatening[/u] to cause harm but has not yet discharged a firearm or otherwise caused harm with their weapon and the court finding that under such circumstances a law enforcement officer will be unable to discharge their firearm in that circumstance.

"My third point of concern is in the process of selecting a Commissioner or a Commander. The process calls out senior administrators but these remain rather poorly defined. It would be greatly appreciated if the author could clarify these points."


"Mister President, as one of the co-draftees of the act currently at debate, as well as it's original draftee, I shall rise and answer the questions from the Honourable Senator." da Costa then takes a sip of water and gargles it slightly to clear his throat.

"With regards to the first question, the idea of the Federal Police is that it is a police force that enforces laws at a federal level or investigates crimes that cross multiple jurisdictions. Petty crimes such as theft, and other serious crimes are the jurisdiction of local police forces. If they were, the Federal Police would be overstretched investigating every single crime in the country. It simply would not have the resources to do so and it would be better to let local establishments handle these cases."

"With regards to the second question, the law specifically is designed to prevent unnecessary discharges of firearms by officers. In your scenario, officers would be able to apprehend or subdue the person in question with non-lethal means, such as tasers. In this respect it would not require the use of firearms as the person would realise that if they did discharge their weapon, officers would be compelled to do so too, thus reducing the chances of criminals running amok with firearms."

"With regards to your third question, it is ironic that you ask for clarification yet have not clarified what it is that you need clarification over."
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Postby House of Judah » Thu May 25, 2017 6:02 am

Costa Fierro wrote:"Mister President, as one of the co-draftees of the act currently at debate, as well as it's original draftee, I shall rise and answer the questions from the Honourable Senator." da Costa then takes a sip of water and gargles it slightly to clear his throat.

"With regards to the first question, the idea of the Federal Police is that it is a police force that enforces laws at a federal level or investigates crimes that cross multiple jurisdictions. Petty crimes such as theft, and other serious crimes are the jurisdiction of local police forces. If they were, the Federal Police would be overstretched investigating every single crime in the country. It simply would not have the resources to do so and it would be better to let local establishments handle these cases."

"With regards to the second question, the law specifically is designed to prevent unnecessary discharges of firearms by officers. In your scenario, officers would be able to apprehend or subdue the person in question with non-lethal means, such as tasers. In this respect it would not require the use of firearms as the person would realise that if they did discharge their weapon, officers would be compelled to do so too, thus reducing the chances of criminals running amok with firearms."

"With regards to your third question, it is ironic that you ask for clarification yet have not clarified what it is that you need clarification over."

"Mister President, while they may not be specifically focused on such localized crime, surely all criminal offenses established by federal law should be the within the purview of a federal police force. Especially since as currently written, federal law enforcement would be barred from pursuing such charges against suspects when the crimes were discovered incident to an investigation which has not resulted in charges laid out in this act.

"I'm afraid that a person who has found themselves facing off with law enforcement are not always the most rational, leaving such game-theory analyses less reliable as a predictor of behavior. I also must wonder how such concerns would not be better alleviated by Article IV of the Constitution and a more conventional set of criminal laws, such as homicide or reckless endangerment."

"Finally, since it seems to be lost on my colleague, I wish to know what exactly 'senior administrators' are defined as and how they are selected."

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Postby Roosevetania » Thu May 25, 2017 7:59 am

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Postby Martune » Thu May 25, 2017 9:14 am

A sane person in the lobby hushed the RGA part of the crowd

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Postby Tectonix » Thu May 25, 2017 1:04 pm

Martune wrote:in the lobby

A person in the quiet lobby frowned as the strange person tried to hush them.

In the chamber, Senator Viel scribbled something on a piece of paper and handed it to an aide, who promptly left for the Senator's office.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu May 25, 2017 11:21 pm

House of Judah wrote:"Mister President, while they may not be specifically focused on such localized crime, surely all criminal offenses established by federal law should be the within the purview of a federal police force. Especially since as currently written, federal law enforcement would be barred from pursuing such charges against suspects when the crimes were discovered incident to an investigation which has not resulted in charges laid out in this act.

"I'm afraid that a person who has found themselves facing off with law enforcement are not always the most rational, leaving such game-theory analyses less reliable as a predictor of behavior. I also must wonder how such concerns would not be better alleviated by Article IV of the Constitution and a more conventional set of criminal laws, such as homicide or reckless endangerment."

"Finally, since it seems to be lost on my colleague, I wish to know what exactly 'senior administrators' are defined as and how they are selected."


"Mister President, the Honourable Senator should take note that the proposed bill does include such crimes if they are committed in multiple jurisdictions. Thus the federal police would be compelled to investigate such criminal acts if said acts are committed in multiple jurisdictions where no state or municipal police force would be capable of cooperating. As is, having the federal police investigate every single crime in the country would be utterly pointless and it would put far too much stress on the officers, the finances and other resources. Simply put it is better for state and municipal police forces to handle those cases when they arise."

"With regards to your second area of concern, Mister President, I ask, does the Honourable Senator think that a person who as of yet has not presented any immediate danger to the public or to law enforcement officials should be shot by an armed member of the police as a preventative measure?"

"And finally Mister President, could the Honourable Member again clarify what they meant by "senior administrators"."
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Postby Beta Test » Thu May 25, 2017 11:26 pm

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"Voting shall now begin on the Federal Police Act. Voting shall last 24 hours."
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Thu May 25, 2017 11:36 pm

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu May 25, 2017 11:39 pm

Aye.
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Postby Collatis » Thu May 25, 2017 11:47 pm

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Postby Tasimah » Thu May 25, 2017 11:52 pm

Aye.
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Postby House of Judah » Fri May 26, 2017 12:00 am

AYE

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Postby The Sarian » Fri May 26, 2017 12:04 am

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Postby FreYhill » Fri May 26, 2017 1:13 am

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Postby Stojam » Fri May 26, 2017 3:25 am

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Postby Dendart » Fri May 26, 2017 3:56 am

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Postby Roosevetania » Fri May 26, 2017 5:36 am

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Postby Turealia » Fri May 26, 2017 5:39 am

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Postby North Dajao » Fri May 26, 2017 8:39 am

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