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Nulla Bellum
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:35 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:Nulla Bellum, you are hereby WARNED for godmodding.

Godmodding in this instance is making up something ICly, in this case that bail was posted. Atlantica as judge never posted bail. You're still in jail. This RP does in fact have rules, whether or not you choose to follow them.

Disclaimer: This decision was made by the NSG Senate Administrators and is solely relevant to this roleplay and its threads. It does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NS Administration.


ooc: Please produce the entirety of the Fernao criminal and civil codes with timestamps showing that they were posted on NS prior to the start of this roleplay so that I can adequately roleplay the grueling process of my character's release from jail. Or, can't we just assume that whatever bail is assessed, my character has the means to pay it and did and we move on to less bizarroworld RPing where we need not account for each petty floret of the dandelion and goddamn windspeeds. Sheesh.
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New World Oceania
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Postby New World Oceania » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:54 pm

A memo signed by Vienna Eliot in a frustrated scrawl is delivered to the President of the Senate. It reads simply: The President designates Senator Elsinore Ophelia-Eliot as Majority Leader.

At the same time, an aide whispers something into Ophelia-Eliot's ear. She nods and rises, walking to the well of the chamber.

"Madam President, it is disappointing that this body has placed its faith in you only for you to spit in the face of the multipartisanism our nation has worked so hard to craft. Nevertheless, the people will not tolerate a return to the obstructionism of days old. I move to proceed to the first reading of the Senate Rules Resolution. Further, I ask unanimous consent that a Committee of the Whole be appointed for the consideration of the President's nominees for his cabinet."

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Lykens
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Postby Lykens » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:27 pm

"The question is on the adoption of the motion to proceed to the first reading of the proposed Rules Resolution."
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New World Oceania
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Postby New World Oceania » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:41 pm

AYE

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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:47 pm

"Abstain."
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:53 pm

Nay
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Davincia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Davincia » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:03 pm

Aye.
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:04 pm

Aye.
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Postby House of Judah » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:09 pm

Nay

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Postby Anere » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:22 pm

Aye
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Postby Paketo » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:30 pm

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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:22 pm

Aye

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Postby Ainin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:39 pm

Nay
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Postby Tectonix » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:00 pm

Abstain
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Postby Panama Coalition » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:21 pm

Abstain

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Postby Hindia Belanda » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:32 am

Abstain
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 am

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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:42 am

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Lykens
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Postby Lykens » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:57 pm

"The first reading of the proposed Standing Rules has passed with eight ayes, three nays, and four abstentions."
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New World Oceania
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Postby New World Oceania » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:59 pm

"Madam President, I move to proceed to the second reading of the Rules Resolution."

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:13 pm

New World Oceania wrote:"Madam President, I move to proceed to the second reading of the Rules Resolution."

"I second the motion."
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Paketo
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Postby Paketo » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:18 pm

New World Oceania wrote:"Madam President, I move to proceed to the second reading of the Rules Resolution."


"I second the motion."
I'm a Pinarchist, sue me North Carolina is best Carolina States rights is best rights
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Paketo wrote:
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Lykens
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Postby Lykens » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:24 pm

"The second reading of the proposed Standing Rules shall now commence, with amendments to be offered for the next twelve hours, and amendments having received five seconds by senators voted on for twenty four hours afterward."
I'm very lazy, and try to exert the least amount of energy possible, but can somehow run a mile in six and a half minutes. Don't expect too much unless you interest me.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:24 am

"I move to amend the resolution as follows: Strike the entire text and substitute by the following."

Section I: Rule III

a. Rule IIIe shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate and Presidents pro tempore may give one statement with no responses on the business at hand, but otherwise shall not debate the matter before the Senate.”

Section II: Rule IV

a. Rule IVd shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate may vote, however they are not required to do so.”

Section III: Rule VI

a. Rule VIb shall be amended to, “The first reading shall be a simple vote on whether or not to proceed to the bill based on its merits. Multiple bills may have their first reading simultaneously. The President of the Senate may propose to waive the first reading of any bill and directly enter the second reading with the support of five (5) senators.”
b. Rule VIc shall be amended to, “The second reading, which shall be a thirty six (36) hour period, with twelve (12) hours for debate and (24) hours, during which time amendments in order will be proposed, debated, and voted on. The President of the Senate may propose to waive the second reading of any bill and directly enter the third reading with the support of five (5) senators.”

Section IV: Rule VIII

a. Rule VIIIb and c shall be struck.
b. Rule VIIa shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate shall bring bills to the floor during the legislative session.[ /blocktext]
Section V: Rule IX

[blocktext]a. Rule IXb and c shall be struck.
b. Rule IXa shall be amended to, “The Minority Leader shall be the leader of the party or bloc that does not occupy the Office of the President of the Senate.

Section VI: Rule XI

a. Rule XIa shall be amended to, “Should a motion to commit a bill or other business be adopted, the President of the Senate shall appoint two members and a chairperson to a Committee on (Bill/Resolution title), upon the recommendation of the Minority Leader in regards to the minority member.”

Section VII: Rule XIII

a. Rule XIIIc shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate may bring the Senate into Executive Session when nominations or treaties are pending.”
b. Rule XIIId shall be amended to, “Upon entering an executive session, the President of the Senate may move to begin debate on specific nominees, without a vote.”

Section VIII: Rule XVI

a. Rule XVIf, g, h, and l shall be struck.
b. Rule XVIi, j, and k, shall be renamed to f, g, and h, respectively.
"And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?"

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Anere
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Postby Anere » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:36 am

Ainin wrote:"I move to amend the resolution as follows: Strike the entire text and substitute by the following."

Section I: Rule III

a. Rule IIIe shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate and Presidents pro tempore may give one statement with no responses on the business at hand, but otherwise shall not debate the matter before the Senate.”

Section II: Rule IV

a. Rule IVd shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate may vote, however they are not required to do so.”

Section III: Rule VI

a. Rule VIb shall be amended to, “The first reading shall be a simple vote on whether or not to proceed to the bill based on its merits. Multiple bills may have their first reading simultaneously. The President of the Senate may propose to waive the first reading of any bill and directly enter the second reading with the support of five (5) senators.”
b. Rule VIc shall be amended to, “The second reading, which shall be a thirty six (36) hour period, with twelve (12) hours for debate and (24) hours, during which time amendments in order will be proposed, debated, and voted on. The President of the Senate may propose to waive the second reading of any bill and directly enter the third reading with the support of five (5) senators.”

Section IV: Rule VIII

a. Rule VIIIb and c shall be struck.
b. Rule VIIa shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate shall bring bills to the floor during the legislative session.[ /blocktext]
Section V: Rule IX

[blocktext]a. Rule IXb and c shall be struck.
b. Rule IXa shall be amended to, “The Minority Leader shall be the leader of the party or bloc that does not occupy the Office of the President of the Senate.

Section VI: Rule XI

a. Rule XIa shall be amended to, “Should a motion to commit a bill or other business be adopted, the President of the Senate shall appoint two members and a chairperson to a Committee on (Bill/Resolution title), upon the recommendation of the Minority Leader in regards to the minority member.”

Section VII: Rule XIII

a. Rule XIIIc shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate may bring the Senate into Executive Session when nominations or treaties are pending.”
b. Rule XIIId shall be amended to, “Upon entering an executive session, the President of the Senate may move to begin debate on specific nominees, without a vote.”

Section VIII: Rule XVI

a. Rule XVIf, g, h, and l shall be struck.
b. Rule XVIi, j, and k, shall be renamed to f, g, and h, respectively.

"Madam President, I fully support these amendments."
Cogito ergo sum


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Nescire autem quid ante quam natus sis acciderit, id est semper esse puerum. Quid enim est aetas hominis, nisi ea memoria rerum veterum cum superiorum aetate contexitur? - Marcus Tullius Cicero

Nullus ballivus ponat decetero aliquem ad legem simplici loquela sua, sine testibus fidelibus ad hoc inductis. - Magna Carta Libertatum

Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. - V from V for Vendetta

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