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Socialist Nordia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Socialist Nordia » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:47 pm

Davincia wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:Senator Ernst laughs at the ridiculousness. "'That much power?' Mr. President, the minority has the right to have a voice! My colleague is suggesting that the majority should do everything with no input from the minority, and that having a voice is too much power! These words are dangerous for our democracy! Democracy demands dissent! It thrives when everyone has a voice! It's not 'power,' it's the right to not be shut out from the proceedings of this body! Mr. President, it is shameful that the member has suggested that Senators opposing him don't deserve to have a voice! Clearly, anyone who has this attitude towards democracy does not deserve to hold power."

"Mr. President, I would like to take the time to indulge my colleague with the fact that there is a difference between the minority having a voice and the minority granting consent alongside the majority. The majority has already been democratically elected, the minority thus lacks the same powers granted to its opponent. This is not a complicated matter."

Mr. President, it is the current standing rules, authored by none other than the majority leader herself and democratically approved by this Senate that demands the minority be given a say.

It is this amendment which allows for a single senator - the majority leader - to rush through any legislation they wish, with no consent from anyone else. One Senator would be able to pick and choose which legislation is exempted from the standard 3 readings. And this isn't just any senator, it is the one who just attempted to unconstitutionally approve a judge without consent of the president. The Senate can not afford to put so much trust in the majority leader to allow them to unilaterally direct the agenda.
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Lykens
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Founded: Apr 13, 2013
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Postby Lykens » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:08 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Davincia wrote:"Mr. President, I would like to take the time to indulge my colleague with the fact that there is a difference between the minority having a voice and the minority granting consent alongside the majority. The majority has already been democratically elected, the minority thus lacks the same powers granted to its opponent. This is not a complicated matter."

Mr. President, it is the current standing rules, authored by none other than the majority leader herself and democratically approved by this Senate that demands the minority be given a say.

It is this amendment which allows for a single senator - the majority leader - to rush through any legislation they wish, with no consent from anyone else. One Senator would be able to pick and choose which legislation is exempted from the standard 3 readings. And this isn't just any senator, it is the one who just attempted to unconstitutionally approve a judge without consent of the president. The Senate can not afford to put so much trust in the majority leader to allow them to unilaterally direct the agenda.

"Mister President, either the minority leader has yet to read the text of the Amendment or he is purposefully misrepresenting it, there would be no majority or minority leader. It's very simple."
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Beta Test
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Founded: Jan 06, 2013
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Postby Beta Test » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:24 pm

"We will now proceed to voting on Amendment to the Standing Rules. Voting shall last 24 hours."
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House of Judah
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Founded: Nov 28, 2015
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Postby House of Judah » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:26 pm

NAY

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Malgrave
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Malgrave » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:33 pm

Nay
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New World Oceania
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Founded: Jun 19, 2017
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Postby New World Oceania » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:36 pm

AYE

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Socialist Nordia
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:41 pm

Nay
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Roosevetania
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Founded: Jan 08, 2016
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Postby Roosevetania » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:42 pm

NAY
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Federated Kingdom
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Founded: Oct 28, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Federated Kingdom » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:47 pm

Nay.
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All Lukania
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Founded: Dec 27, 2015
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Postby All Lukania » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:58 pm

Present.

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Turealia
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Founded: Jul 02, 2016
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Postby Turealia » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:15 pm

NAY
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Anere
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Postby Anere » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:26 pm

AYE
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Tectonix
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Founded: Apr 30, 2016
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Postby Tectonix » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:29 pm

Nay
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Ainin
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Ainin » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:47 pm

Aye
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Davincia
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Founded: Apr 13, 2014
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Postby Davincia » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:03 pm

Aye
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Ethane
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Founded: Sep 26, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Ethane » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:51 pm

Nay
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MERIZoC
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Founded: Dec 05, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:59 pm

Nay

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Ikania
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Founded: Jun 28, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ikania » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:31 pm

Nay
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Zurkerx
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Founded: Jan 20, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:41 pm

Aye
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Natanians and Nosts
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Founded: Jun 25, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Natanians and Nosts » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:50 pm

Nay
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Panama Coalition
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Founded: Feb 02, 2017
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Panama Coalition » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:10 pm

Nay

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Felscombe
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Founded: Nov 30, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Felscombe » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:27 pm

Nay.

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Paketo
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Founded: Jul 31, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Paketo » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:07 am

Aye
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Coconut Isle
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Founded: Jun 15, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Coconut Isle » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:24 am

AYE

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The Sarian
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Founded: Jun 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Sarian » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:34 am

Nay.
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