The Senate Lobby: Fake News Lives Here

[Roosevetania]

I mean I just joined and you are probably the better authority on this. I think it isn't the fault of the admins, or the players, or the system: it's just that we cannot rekindle the fire of Calvarde and Aurentina. This is because new players, ideas, and themes are shadowed by the same-old.

I have read into both Calvarde and Aurentina. While I was not there, I have noticed something about both that did not exist in previous incarnations: both had a large, active, and diverse player base. This has not been true for Fernao, Elizia, or Dagmar. I would say that 90% of the roleplay that gets done in all of these incarnations is done by the same 25 people. I would reckon that 90% of the active players were present in a previous incarnation, if not more. The same people mean the same ideas, same bills, and the same system. Many of the players from Aurentina and Calvarde who spiced up the incarnations are now gone. The Senate has a recruiting problem.

No matter how you try to make the incarnations different and more exciting than the rest, it doesn't really matter because the same people are showing up with the same bills, the same political parties, and the same drama.

I think a hiatus would be nice. I also think a complete reboot of the system would also be nice. I say that we abandon everything about the current system as start up as if Aurentina, Calvarde, Dagmar, Elizia, and Fernao never existed. No precedent, not even the most ancient one, should remain. Everything should be geared to recruiting new people and diversifying the Senate.

How long would this hiatus last? I understand what you're tying to explain, but the precedent for this entire roleplay is most likely irremovable.

I agree.

Anere, I agree with much of your post, but I don't think we should do a complete, total shutdown and reboot of the Senate.

[Anere]

I mean I just joined and you are probably the better authority on this. I think it isn't the fault of the admins, or the players, or the system: it's just that we cannot rekindle the fire of Calvarde and Aurentina. This is because new players, ideas, and themes are shadowed by the same-old.

I have read into both Calvarde and Aurentina. While I was not there, I have noticed something about both that did not exist in previous incarnations: both had a large, active, and diverse player base. This has not been true for Fernao, Elizia, or Dagmar. I would say that 90% of the roleplay that gets done in all of these incarnations is done by the same 25 people. I would reckon that 90% of the active players were present in a previous incarnation, if not more. The same people mean the same ideas, same bills, and the same system. Many of the players from Aurentina and Calvarde who spiced up the incarnations are now gone. The Senate has a recruiting problem.

No matter how you try to make the incarnations different and more exciting than the rest, it doesn't really matter because the same people are showing up with the same bills, the same political parties, and the same drama.

I think a hiatus would be nice. I also think a complete reboot of the system would also be nice. I say that we abandon everything about the current system as start up as if Aurentina, Calvarde, Dagmar, Elizia, and Fernao never existed. No precedent, not even the most ancient one, should remain. Everything should be geared to recruiting new people and diversifying the Senate.

How long would this hiatus last? I understand what you're tying to explain, but the precedent for this entire roleplay is most likely irremovable.

I think four to six months will do before any planning for the future incarnation suffices. The long time will give people more time to reboot. As for precedent being irremovable, that's partially the point: that by removing the precedent, we change the roleplay as we know it.

How long would this hiatus last? I understand what you're tying to explain, but the precedent for this entire roleplay is most likely irremovable.

I agree.

Anere, I agree with much of your post, but I don't think we should do a complete, total shutdown and reboot of the Senate.

It doesn't have to be a complete and total shutdown. But we do have to change the system drastically if we want success.

[New World Oceania]

Our friend Ikania asked over telegram if I intend to legalize doxxing as president. Vienna Eliot currently has no intentions to legalize doxxing: this seems to be a niche issue that a few people (whom Vienna has termed "birthers" over their strong concern for innocent children) are pushing for political gain — Vienna Eliot stands for the many, not the few.

[Jutsa]

Is there a conlang for Fernão or is it just kinda a bunch of letters squashed semi-randomly?

[Roosevetania]

Is there a conlang for Fernão or is it just kinda a bunch of letters squashed semi-randomly?

Fernao's official language is English but ICly Portuguese is pretty common.

[Jutsa]

Thank you.

Also, how realistic must a candidate be? Is someone like, oh, say, Lord Buckethead Dominator™ a possibility,
or is that a little too overkill?

[Roosevetania]

Thank you.

Also, how realistic must a candidate be? Is someone like, oh, say, Lord Buckethead Dominator™ a possibility,
or is that a little too overkill?

People don't like unrealistic presidential candidates, but there's no official rules on how realistic characters must be.

[Jutsa]

Alrighty, last question: Should I add my character around now, or should I wait until after the change?

[Liberated Territories]

Is there a conlang for Fernão or is it just kinda a bunch of letters squashed semi-randomly?

I want to make a conlang for the next iteration (if it is a language that I am familiar with that is).

[Zurkerx]

It's all and good that we can talk about the next iteration. However, until we do actually end the iteration and talk about the next, there's no need to discussion or speculate about it now.

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

@updated list: What about Forward Fernão? And the Christian Conservatives?

Also the PA is abbreviated as CU as well as CU

Edit: Also, does the Phalanx movement exist anymore?

FF merged into the PA. I think PPCC is dead. The FPM was ran by a puppet of Archism (All Lukania) so that Arch could participate in the Senate without getting people's hopes up that he was back for good, but now that Archism is officially back on NS, the All Lukania and the FPM have no use.

That.

Also, we went on hiatus between Elizia and Fernão so that's been tried before and recently.

[Jutsa]

Scary - that means we have hardly any large hardline rightwing conservative party to balance out the communist party.

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

Scary - that means we have hardly any large hardline rightwing conservative party to balance out the communist party.

I never really considered them rightwing, and they definitely weren't large, but they were a fun foil to the establishment parties for a while

[Paketo]

Scary - that means we have hardly any large hardline rightwing conservative party to balance out the communist party.

I never really considered them rightwing, and they definitely weren't large, but they were a fun foil to the establishment parties for a while

They seemed authoritatian center right to me

[Davincia]

I never really considered them rightwing, and they definitely weren't large, but they were a fun foil to the establishment parties for a while

They seemed authoritatian center right to me

Mildly authoritarian center-right is best political position.

[New World Oceania]

They seemed authoritatian center right to me

Mildly authoritarian center-right is best political position.

That could mean anything depending on where you live.

Alrighty, last question: Should I add my character around now, or should I wait until after the change?

Do it now — your character will probably be different next incarnation.

[Paketo]

They seemed authoritatian center right to me

Mildly authoritarian center-right is best political position.

The best political position is radical capitalist

[Davincia]

Mildly authoritarian center-right is best political position.

The best political position is radical capitalist

That man has style.

[Roosevetania]

Mildly authoritarian center-right is best political position.

The best political position is radical capitalist

#LeftWingProgressiveSocialDemocracy4Life

The MNP has decided to support Vienna Eliot (NWO)/Adam Kahn (Atlanticatia) for president.

[The Tiber and Wisdom]

Unfortunately I have had to take an extremely long leave of absence from Nation States and most of the web but I have returned and will be soon delving into the RP.

[Jutsa]

Welcome back.

[House of Judah]

By my count, the vote is
Haverkamp 13
Gonclaves 9
Eliot 9
Vig 7
Fernandes 1

Two votes were discarded as invalid, one by Sarian due to his decision to leave the RP and one by Electora who has no record of any sort of participation in the Senate RP, to include an application, chamber or presidential election vote, bill authorship or sponsorship, or presence in any party thread.

[Ainin]

Once again Electora is listed in the member list in the applications thread and thus likely applied in the previous thread that was purged. His vote should stand.

[Roosevetania]

Sarian's vote is definitely invalid because he left the RP, but if Electrona is in the membership roll, they're eligible to vote.

[House of Judah]

Once again Electora is listed in the member list in the applications thread and thus likely applied in the previous thread that was purged. His vote should stand.

That list ceased to exist when the thread was purged. It was determined that we would use other activities in the RP to determine if a person was already a member or not. There is no such record for Electora, therefore there is no record of membership in any way, shape, or form in the RP and the vote is not valid.

Decision and precedent found here.