The Senate Lobby: Fake News Lives Here

[New World Oceania]

Vienna Eliot (PA | New World Oceania) is running for president with Adam Kahn (RGA | Atlanticatia) ticket.

[Liberated Territories]

The Liberal Democrats are tentatively supporting the Civic Union for now, and as such I am not going to try my usual attempt running for president.

[Natanians and Nosts]

(Assuming this is possible and legal)

João Cândido Moura Fernandes (Natanians and Nosts) will be running for president of the republic with Jan Silva Santos (Natanians and Nosts) as vice-president.

[Maklohi Vai]

(Assuming this is possible and legal)

João Cândido Moura Fernandes (Natanians and Nosts) will be running for president of the republic with Jan Silva Santos (Natanians and Nosts) as vice-president.

You know I don't think we've ever had this before, but I also wouldn't say it's illegal. People certainly have had multiple politicians, the big issue is just one vote=one person. If that's upheld I don't see a problem.

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

I, Vishal Vig, will be running for president with the support of the Red-Green Alliance. I have not yet announced a running mate.

[Paketo]

Ainin is not on right now so I will announce his candidacy to meet the time table

CU nominates Ainin to the post of president

[Ainin]

That's Nikolaas Haverkamp for President and Leopoldo Agramonte for Vice President

[Maklohi Vai]

The following candidacies have been declared:

Beto Goncalves (PA | Maklohi Vai) / Julie Shah (PA | Coconut Isle)
Vienna Eliot (PA | New World Oceania) / Adam Kahn (RGA | Atlanticatia)
João Cândido Moura Fernandes (Ind | Natanians and Nosts) / Jan Silva Santos (Ind | Natanians and Nosts)
Vishal Vig (RGA | The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism) / None
Nikolaas Haverkamp (CU | Ainin) / Leopoldo Agramonte (CU | Davincia)

The election thread will be up shortly.

[NSG Senate Administrators]

Here's the thread: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=418431


MV

[Jutsa]

What's PA? Is that the PPCC, or is that a different party?

[Maklohi Vai]

What's PA? Is that the PPCC, or is that a different party?

The PA is the Popular Alliance, a party recently formed from the merger of the Humanist Union and the Coalition of Workers and Farmers. Its thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=418079

[Paketo]

Question to whoever was running the elections account, I think it was NWO. Would you be willing to do a mock presidential election using the calculator for elections? I think it would just be interesting thing to see how it would turn out.

[New World Oceania]

Question to whoever was running the elections account, I think it was NWO. Would you be willing to do a mock presidential election using the calculator for elections? I think it would just be interesting thing to see how it would turn out.

I can do that. The calculator will need a bit of tuning, but I can set it up for the campaigning and we'll see who it thinks would make the best (or most popular) president.

[New World Oceania]

Membership may be inaccurate.

Red-Green Alliance (RGA)
- Social democracy
- Environmentalism
- Democratic socialism
Party leader(s): Socialist Nordia
Members: 34

Civic Union (CU)
- Liberal conservatism
- Economic liberalism
- Conservatism
Party leader(s): Paketo
Members: 33

The Popular Alliance (PA)
- Liberal conservatism
- Economic liberalism
- Conservatism
Party leader(s): Vacant
Members: 14

Communist Party of Fernão (CPF)
- Communism
- Libertarian socialism
- Anti-capitalism
Party leader(s): Eredion, Osea 767
Members: 8

Maabaran National Party (MNP)
- Maabaran independence
- Government fairness
- Liberalism
Party leader(s): Roosevetania
Members: 2

Liberal Democratic Party (LDP)
- Classical Liberalism
- Libertarianism
- Federalism
Party leader(s): Liberated Territories
Members: 2

Union of Anabaptists (UA)
- Christian socialism
- Agrarianism
- Communitarianism
Party leader(s): Soviet Canuckistan
Members: 1

[New World Oceania]

Also, bill depository is gone. How are we supposed to attract new members when we can't keep our threads? I move to suspend the entire Admin team and reelect them by STV since they clearly aren't active enough to do their jobs.

[Paketo]

LDP has two members

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

Also, bill depository is gone. How are we supposed to attract new members when we can't keep our threads? I move to suspend the entire Admin team and reelect them by STV since they clearly aren't active enough to do their jobs.

It's not the Admin team's fault alone. Fernão is dead and can't sustain any activity; look at the sheer inactivity of all parties and the fact that the RGA's thread was pruned. It's times like these that the Senate needs a period of contemplation and rebirth via a new incarnation in some time. I move to formally end the incarnation and begin a hiatus.

[Lykens]

Why don't we figure out what led to the drop off and fix it rather than just rinsing and repeating.

[Forest State]

I don't think I actually did anything here, but I'm going to officially drop out. I'm shifting my focus and just participating in a few II threads right now.

[Liberated Territories]

Also, bill depository is gone. How are we supposed to attract new members when we can't keep our threads? I move to suspend the entire Admin team and reelect them by STV since they clearly aren't active enough to do their jobs.

It's not the Admin team's fault alone. Fernão is dead and can't sustain any activity; look at the sheer inactivity of all parties and the fact that the RGA's thread was pruned. It's times like these that the Senate needs a period of contemplation and rebirth via a new incarnation in some time. I move to formally end the incarnation and begin a hiatus.

Let's see how this election goes before killing it.

I don't think I actually did anything here, but I'm going to officially drop out. I'm shifting my focus and just participating in a few II threads right now.

If you ever come back, you know which party to join.

/shameless

[Jutsa]

@updated list: What about Forward Fernão? And the Christian Conservatives?

Also the PA is abbreviated as CU as well as CU

Edit: Also, does the Phalanx movement exist anymore?

[Jutsa]

Ah, wait, should I make a character and add them to the database?

[Roosevetania]

@updated list: What about Forward Fernão? And the Christian Conservatives?

Also the PA is abbreviated as CU as well as CU

Edit: Also, does the Phalanx movement exist anymore?

FF merged into the PA. I think PPCC is dead. The FPM was ran by a puppet of Archism (All Lukania) so that Arch could participate in the Senate without getting people's hopes up that he was back for good, but now that Archism is officially back on NS, the All Lukania and the FPM have no use.

Ah, wait, should I make a character and add them to the database?

Yes.

[Anere]

Also, bill depository is gone. How are we supposed to attract new members when we can't keep our threads? I move to suspend the entire Admin team and reelect them by STV since they clearly aren't active enough to do their jobs.

It's not the Admin team's fault alone. Fernão is dead and can't sustain any activity; look at the sheer inactivity of all parties and the fact that the RGA's thread was pruned. It's times like these that the Senate needs a period of contemplation and rebirth via a new incarnation in some time. I move to formally end the incarnation and begin a hiatus.

I mean I just joined and you are probably the better authority on this. I think it isn't the fault of the admins, or the players, or the system: it's just that we cannot rekindle the fire of Calvarde and Aurentina. This is because new players, ideas, and themes are shadowed by the same-old.

I have read into both Calvarde and Aurentina. While I was not there, I have noticed something about both that did not exist in previous incarnations: both had a large, active, and diverse player base. This has not been true for Fernao, Elizia, or Dagmar. I would say that 90% of the roleplay that gets done in all of these incarnations is done by the same 25 people. I would reckon that 90% of the active players were present in a previous incarnation, if not more. The same people mean the same ideas, same bills, and the same system. Many of the players from Aurentina and Calvarde who spiced up the incarnations are now gone. The Senate has a recruiting problem.

No matter how you try to make the incarnations different and more exciting than the rest, it doesn't really matter because the same people are showing up with the same bills, the same political parties, and the same drama.

I think a hiatus would be nice. I also think a complete reboot of the system would also be nice. I say that we abandon everything about the current system as start up as if Aurentina, Calvarde, Dagmar, Elizia, and Fernao never existed. No precedent, not even the most ancient one, should remain. Everything should be geared to recruiting new people and diversifying the Senate.

[Davincia]

It's not the Admin team's fault alone. Fernão is dead and can't sustain any activity; look at the sheer inactivity of all parties and the fact that the RGA's thread was pruned. It's times like these that the Senate needs a period of contemplation and rebirth via a new incarnation in some time. I move to formally end the incarnation and begin a hiatus.

I mean I just joined and you are probably the better authority on this. I think it isn't the fault of the admins, or the players, or the system: it's just that we cannot rekindle the fire of Calvarde and Aurentina. This is because new players, ideas, and themes are shadowed by the same-old.

I have read into both Calvarde and Aurentina. While I was not there, I have noticed something about both that did not exist in previous incarnations: both had a large, active, and diverse player base. This has not been true for Fernao, Elizia, or Dagmar. I would say that 90% of the roleplay that gets done in all of these incarnations is done by the same 25 people. I would reckon that 90% of the active players were present in a previous incarnation, if not more. The same people mean the same ideas, same bills, and the same system. Many of the players from Aurentina and Calvarde who spiced up the incarnations are now gone. The Senate has a recruiting problem.

No matter how you try to make the incarnations different and more exciting than the rest, it doesn't really matter because the same people are showing up with the same bills, the same political parties, and the same drama.

I think a hiatus would be nice. I also think a complete reboot of the system would also be nice. I say that we abandon everything about the current system as start up as if Aurentina, Calvarde, Dagmar, Elizia, and Fernao never existed. No precedent, not even the most ancient one, should remain. Everything should be geared to recruiting new people and diversifying the Senate.

How long would this hiatus last? I understand what you're tying to explain, but the precedent for this entire roleplay is most likely irremovable.