The Senate Lobby: Fake News Lives Here

[The Liberated Territories]

If the constructed romance language option wins, anyone who wants to help collaborate in making it is welcome to join me in putting forth a proposal to be voted on. I specifically want to team up with people with a linguistic background or have created constructed languages before.

I'm trying to get into contact with Vyvland, who originally created the Aurentine language. I think they are too busy but it is worth a shot.

[Martune]

Civico conservador if I remember. The more right wing caucus group

Yes, I remember Cívico Conservador.

What happened after I resigned from senate

[Soviet Canuckistan]

I have only just become aware of Galatea’s linguistic situation, and to be frank, it’s imbecilic; the country’s agreed-upon history makes no mention of these non-Albanian Albanian speakers, which are certainly bizarre, and it is absolutely ridiculous to speak of 15-20 per cent speaking a Slavic when, in truth, South Slavic groups represent no more than 3 per cent of the population, as Question 4 established. The existence of a Maltese-like Semitic language is similarly scandalous for reasons I needn’t mention for fear of growing tiresome. I know I will be censured for speaking only know, but I was lamentably unaware of the vote.

Well ethnicity, history and linguistic demographics were constructed separately and voted on at the same time which is why it's a mess.

[MERIZoC]

Friends. Nobody cares about your character right now. We will have a thread for that. Don't post them.

[Juniklub]

I have only just become aware of Galatea’s linguistic situation, and to be frank, it’s imbecilic; the country’s agreed-upon history makes no mention of these non-Albanian Albanian speakers, which are certainly bizarre, and it is absolutely ridiculous to speak of 15-20 per cent speaking a Slavic when, in truth, South Slavic groups represent no more than 3 per cent of the population, as Question 4 established. The existence of a Maltese-like Semitic language is similarly scandalous for reasons I needn’t mention for fear of growing tiresome. I know I will be censured for speaking only know, but I was lamentably unaware of the vote.

I apologise for what possibly constitutes spam, but upon speaking to Soviet Canuckistan, it has become apparent that the the language proposal could be very interesting, albeit with different demographics. Galatea could be an Ionian Switzerland, in which case independence from Greece as established in Archism’s history would make more sense; but in order to do this, the numbers of Albanians, Slavs, and Semitic peoples would have to be raised in detriment of blacks, Hellenes, and Galateans (Helleno-Latins).

[Paketo]

Yes, I remember Cívico Conservador.

What happened after I resigned from senate

not much. I can't remember when exactly when you resigned but we had a tsunami as a major event and then activity slowly dwindled as people got annoyed at how long a bill took to be voted on. Eventually, it was declared dead.

[Roosevetania]

If the constructed romance language option wins, anyone who wants to help collaborate in making it is welcome to join me in putting forth a proposal to be voted on. I specifically want to team up with people with a linguistic background or have created constructed languages before.

I'm trying to get into contact with Vyvland, who originally created the Aurentine language. I think they are too busy but it is worth a shot.

Wasn't a Romance conlang part of SovCan's proposal?

[Kamchastkia]

I have only just become aware of Galatea’s linguistic situation, and to be frank, it’s imbecilic; the country’s agreed-upon history makes no mention of these non-Albanian Albanian speakers, which are certainly bizarre, and it is absolutely ridiculous to speak of 15-20 per cent speaking a Slavic when, in truth, South Slavic groups represent no more than 3 per cent of the population, as Question 4 established. The existence of a Maltese-like Semitic language is similarly scandalous for reasons I needn’t mention for fear of growing tiresome. I know I will be censured for speaking only know, but I was lamentably unaware of the vote.

Yep, definitely. There's pretty much no historic precedent for Slavic and Semitic languages in the nation. Honestly takes away a lot of immersion.

Just ignore it then, what're they gonna do, make you believe it?

[Roosevetania]

Yep, definitely. There's pretty much no historic precedent for Slavic and Semitic languages in the nation. Honestly takes away a lot of immersion.

Just ignore it then, what're they gonna do, make you believe it?

Lol

[The Sarian]

Friends. Nobody cares about your character right now. We will have a thread for that. Don't post them.

But if you're not friends with Merizoc, do what you want.

Odds I get into another beef with The Sarian

I don't remember who you are but I was defo right about whatever it is.
Edit: I remember who you are, you had a temper tantrum because I won the primary and then stopped having a temper tantrum when no-one paid attention. Good job on stopping me getting elected President ;)

[Kamchastkia]

Just ignore it then, what're they gonna do, make you believe it?

Lol

It's true though.

EDIT: (Reminder we have a DISCORD)

[Collatis]

EDIT: (Reminder we have a DISCORD)

People are well aware. It’s not necessary to post about it every day.

[Kamchastkia]

EDIT: (Reminder we have a DISCORD)

People are well aware. It’s not necessary to post about it every day.

Please substantiate the claim that I post it everyday.

[Martune]

Friends. Nobody cares about your character right now. We will have a thread for that. Don't post them.

But if you're not friends with Merizoc, do what you want.

Odds I get into another beef with The Sarian

I don't remember who you are but I was defo right about whatever it is.
Edit: I remember who you are, you had a temper tantrum because I won the primary and then stopped having a temper tantrum when no-one paid attention. Good job on stopping me getting elected President

Oh wow. Ow. That hurt. I really didn’t care to stop you. Just wasn’t happy with you being an arse

Calm down this time eh

[Martune]

I’ve become more libertarian over my break. It’s quite interesting

[Tectonix]

But if you're not friends with Merizoc, do what you want.


I don't remember who you are but I was defo right about whatever it is.
Edit: I remember who you are, you had a temper tantrum because I won the primary and then stopped having a temper tantrum when no-one paid attention. Good job on stopping me getting elected President

Oh wow. Ow. That hurt. I really didn’t care to stop you. Just wasn’t happy with you being an arse

Calm down this time eh

Remember how long ago and now-irrelevant what you are discussing is. Just chill and go on with that conservative libertarian stuff.

[Martune]

Oh wow. Ow. That hurt. I really didn’t care to stop you. Just wasn’t happy with you being an arse

Calm down this time eh

Remember how long ago and now-irrelevant what you are discussing is. Just chill and go on with that conservative libertarian stuff.

Nice link

[MERIZoC]

Friends. Nobody cares about your character right now. We will have a thread for that. Don't post them.

But if you're not friends with Merizoc, do what you want.

[New World Oceania]

Tomorrow, I'm going to post a draft of a GEA here. The disclaimer is that it might not make a lot of sense, if any. I hope you all critique it harshly. Keep in mind, though, that I'm writing it to focus on how we can make the RP better from an OOC perspective. In advance of the full text, here are the highlights:

• Statutes. The laws of Galatea are structured in a code. That means whenever you want to write a new law, you insert a new chapter into the code. This is meant to resolve the depository problem, as well as to make bills that amend previous laws clearer during consideration — insertions into the code are underlined, current code is regularly formatted, and repeals from the code are struck through.
• Federalism. Galatea is composed of three provinces. I think that selecting a province should be a part of applying; or perhaps every member will start getting welcome TGs with info about the Senate, including a province they've been assigned to (which they could change).
  The admins should keep a master spreadsheet with membership information so it doesn't get lost.
  Also: why? Because subnational politics can yield a lot of roleplaying opportunity. If everybody has a province from the start, it takes less effort to get involved in subnational legislating and other politics. As often as it was used, federalism was beneficial in Fernão and Elizia.
• Bicameralism. A small upper chamber expands political intrigue and roleplaying opportunities. It can slow some things down, but just enough to make things more interesting — not so much that it will hurt the roleplay. As for the lower chamber, I am still unsure about whether everyone will be automatically a part of this (as opposed to it being elected, and everyone being a part of subnational chambers).
  Input is welcome.
• Presidentialism. It's a personal preference. I think that, when done well, a presidential system can benefit the roleplay much like an upper chamber would. Key to this is an active president and a small cabinet. I've included provisions on an "executive office of the president" to a)
  encourage more roleplaying and b) discourage big cabinets.
  There are compelling arguments for parliamentary systems, though. They've worked really well in the past, and provide regular intrigue, generally when the prime minister takes on characteristics of a president in terms of power exercised. There's a debate to be had here.
• Established rules. I love procedural law, but it just doesn't jive well with our roleplay structure. I've suggested establishing basic rules to govern the chambers, with some minor differences between the ones used in the upper chamber and those used in the lower chamber that will affect how we roleplay the legislative process. But in general, they're just what we've usually done, written down.
• Courts. I have left an entire section blank for someone else to tackle.

I will participate in this incarnation, but mostly I am going to focus my efforts on improving roleplaying. This will partly, if not primarily, manifest in developing new ways people interact, elections being chief among them. One thing I'd like to do, if the admins are willing to let me, is have a presidential or major election done through a Google form (so, invisible to the general public), then create a liveblog and/or live podcast that releases the results over a couple of hours.

Anyway, that is to say: if you have neat ideas for unique ways of expanding our roleplaying universe, let me know.

[Martune]

The joys of it

Courts could b more judicial review then anything

[Roosevetania]

Tomorrow, I'm going to post a draft of a GEA here. The disclaimer is that it might not make a lot of sense, if any. I hope you all critique it harshly. Keep in mind, though, that I'm writing it to focus on how we can make the RP better from an OOC perspective. In advance of the full text, here are the highlights:

• Statutes. The laws of Galatea are structured in a code. That means whenever you want to write a new law, you insert a new chapter into the code. This is meant to resolve the depository problem, as well as to make bills that amend previous laws clearer during consideration — insertions into the code are underlined, current code is regularly formatted, and repeals from the code are struck through.
• Federalism. Galatea is composed of three provinces. I think that selecting a province should be a part of applying; or perhaps every member will start getting welcome TGs with info about the Senate, including a province they've been assigned to (which they could change).
  The admins should keep a master spreadsheet with membership information so it doesn't get lost.
  Also: why? Because subnational politics can yield a lot of roleplaying opportunity. If everybody has a province from the start, it takes less effort to get involved in subnational legislating and other politics. As often as it was used, federalism was beneficial in Fernão and Elizia.
• Bicameralism. A small upper chamber expands political intrigue and roleplaying opportunities. It can slow some things down, but just enough to make things more interesting — not so much that it will hurt the roleplay. As for the lower chamber, I am still unsure about whether everyone will be automatically a part of this (as opposed to it being elected, and everyone being a part of subnational chambers).
  Input is welcome.
• Presidentialism. It's a personal preference. I think that, when done well, a presidential system can benefit the roleplay much like an upper chamber would. Key to this is an active president and a small cabinet. I've included provisions on an "executive office of the president" to a)
  encourage more roleplaying and b) discourage big cabinets.
  There are compelling arguments for parliamentary systems, though. They've worked really well in the past, and provide regular intrigue, generally when the prime minister takes on characteristics of a president in terms of power exercised. There's a debate to be had here.
• Established rules. I love procedural law, but it just doesn't jive well with our roleplay structure. I've suggested establishing basic rules to govern the chambers, with some minor differences between the ones used in the upper chamber and those used in the lower chamber that will affect how we roleplay the legislative process. But in general, they're just what we've usually done, written down.
• Courts. I have left an entire section blank for someone else to tackle.

I will participate in this incarnation, but mostly I am going to focus my efforts on improving roleplaying. This will partly, if not primarily, manifest in developing new ways people interact, elections being chief among them. One thing I'd like to do, if the admins are willing to let me, is have a presidential or major election done through a Google form (so, invisible to the general public), then create a liveblog and/or live podcast that releases the results over a couple of hours.

Anyway, that is to say: if you have neat ideas for unique ways of expanding our roleplaying universe, let me know.

I think it was shown last iteration that presidentialism doesn't work. We need a parliamentary system. I'm afraid a lot of this (subnational legislating, bicameralism, etc.) would take away from The Senate, which is what we're here for.

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

There are lots of places to trip up on it but I think the senate is at it's best when we're involving tangentially related systems and roleplays rather than just relying on a once-a-week numbers game in the senate chamber.

[Martune]

What happened to the election calculator

[Roosevetania]

What happened to the election calculator

We retired it.

[Martune]

What happened to the election calculator

We retired it.

How come?