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Postby Lykens » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:27 pm

Hallo.

Will be joining this lovely party.
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I will have to temper myself significantly to get along with Lykens.
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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:13 am

Lykens wrote:Hallo.

Will be joining this lovely party.

Well thank you! Your nation will be added to the roster.

Belmaria wrote:I will have to temper myself significantly to get along with Lykens.

I suspect in the name of the party we can get along.

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Postby Britanno 3 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:02 pm

Belmaria wrote:I will have to temper myself significantly to get along with Lykens.

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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:19 pm

Britanno 3 wrote:
Belmaria wrote:I will have to temper myself significantly to get along with Lykens.

*anyone

Don't you have a failed presidency and lifelong career as a backbencher to go cry about?
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Postby Lykens » Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:28 pm

Hallo party people.

Most of you know me, some of you don't.

Lykens, yaddah yaddah, don't be a stupid and we'll get along, yaddah yaddah, parliamentary procedure, yaddah yaddah, gerrymandering, yaddah yaddah.

Now that formalities are out of the way.

Our esteemed and honorable lead plans to step down soon, and he has asked that I assist in sprucing up the party, I think the constitution is a bit meh, so I have penned up a quick draft, and I would love to hear some input.

Please don't be shy.

Social Liberal Party Constitution



Section I: The Executive Board
a. The Executive Board of the Social Liberal Party, hereafter referred to as SLPeBoard, shall consist of three members duly elected by the party for one month terms, and two appointed members and be the governing body of this party.
b. The five members shall be the Parliamentary Leader, Chief Whip, Party Chairperson, the Deputy Leader, and Vice Chairperson, with the latter two positions being appointed by the elected members.
c. The Parliamentary Leader shall be the leader, chief spokesperson, and director of the party. They will be served by the Deputy Parliamentary Leader who will fill in for them temporarily when they are unavailable.
d. The Chief Whip shall be in charge of distributing voting suggestions to members as well as liaising between the backbenchers and Executive Board.
e. The Party Chairperson shall be in charge of the day to day affairs of the party, offering advice to the Parliamentary Leader when solicited and maintaining the party thread, they will be assisted by the Vice Chairperson, or have their duties fulfilled by said officer when they are unavailable. Chairpersons will run party elections.
f. The SLPeBoard will have the power to set party policy, call sessions of the party caucus, call for new elections, appoint committees, appoint non SLPeBoard members for indefinite or definite amounts of time without Party Caucus approval, debate resolutions and vote on resolutions, appoint interim SLPeBoard members, discipline members at their discretion, and debate and approve motions regarding any and all other unspecified matters before final approval by the Party Caucus.
g. Motions, resolutions, and other business decided by the SLPeBoard will be considered in effect until the next Party Caucus session ratifies said decisions. If the Party Caucus rejects these decisions, they will no longer be in effect.
h. Quorum shall be three SLPeBoard members, and all decisions must be made by majority vote.
i. Members shall have the right to offer resolutions signed by five other members to the SLPeBoard.
j. Members shall have the right to argue before the SLPeBoard regarding infractions and discipline.

Section II: Elections
a. Elections shall be held once a month following ratification of this constitution.
b. Elections shall last 48 hours, with a 24 hour nomination period, and a 24 hour voting period.
c. If only one person stands for an office, they shall ascend to it upon the end of the nomination process.
d. Members may only run for one office and officers may not hold more than one office.

Section III: Whip
a. Upon the Chief Whip’s recommendation, the SLPeBoard may authorize a one line whip, a nonbinding recommendation, a two line whip, a nonbinding strong suggestion, or a three line whip, a binding order.
b. Members who break a three line whip are subjected to discipline at the discretion of the SLPeBoard.

Section IV: Party Caucus:
a. The Party Caucus will be composed of all members of the Parliamentary Party.
b. Sessions of the Party Caucus will be chaired by the Parliamentary Leader, their deputy, or designated official.
c. The Party Caucus shall be the organ used by the membership to approve or reject actions carried out by the SLPeBoard.

Section V: Amending the Constitution:
a. The Constitution of the Social Liberal Party may be amended after a petition signed by 67% of active and voting members is tabled and voted on by the SLPeBoard and passes by a ⅗ vote.
b. Upon SLPeBoard action, a 24 hour vote will be held in which 75% of active and voting members must vote in the affirmative.
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:30 pm

After a quick calculation, Fr. Chairman of the Union Party and Senator Jaya Rakhiparteng has calculated that, based on current trends, the NAY Senate whip pushed by the left shall succeed in a narrow vote. The current margin is 21-20,

SUDDEN UPDATE: The votes have balanced into a tie. Senator Jaya keeps his estimation of a victory.
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Postby Arkolon » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:35 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:the NAY whip pushed by the left

I think you mean the right. The left (NWP, LAB, ChIP, EFP, PTH) is voting Aye, only the SLP, the Islamic fundamentalist party and the centre-right party are voting Nay.

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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:37 pm

Arkolon wrote:
New Tuva SSR wrote:the NAY whip pushed by the left

I think you mean the right. The left (NWP, LAB, ChIP, EFP, PTH) is voting Aye, only the SLP, the Islamic fundamentalist party and the centre-right party are voting Nay.

Because you're a horrible candidate with social conservative ties. And FYI, we are the largest left wing party, so for all intents and purposes, we are the left.
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:39 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Arkolon wrote:I think you mean the right. The left (NWP, LAB, ChIP, EFP, PTH) is voting Aye, only the SLP, the Islamic fundamentalist party and the centre-right party are voting Nay.

Because you're a horrible candidate with social conservative ties. And FYI, we are the largest left wing party, so for all intents and purposes, we are the left.

Seconded. We are the Elizian Left. All the other parties you mentioned are for the most party small and insignificant.
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Postby Arkolon » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:42 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Arkolon wrote:I think you mean the right. The left (NWP, LAB, ChIP, EFP, PTH) is voting Aye, only the SLP, the Islamic fundamentalist party and the centre-right party are voting Nay.

Because you're a horrible candidate with social conservative ties. And FYI, we are the largest left wing party, so for all intents and purposes, we are the left.

No need for an ad hominem.

I'm also fairly confident the NWP/Labour alliance is bigger than the SLP, and the SLP is pretty mild on the spectrum - for a South East Asian country, the SLP being pro-globalisation, pro-unilateral free trade, pro-privatisations, pro-FDI makes it come off as very economically right-wing. I'll grant that the social liberalism gives the party a thin veneer of being centre-left but that's nothing compared to the other left-wing parties of the Senate.

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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:43 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Because you're a horrible candidate with social conservative ties. And FYI, we are the largest left wing party, so for all intents and purposes, we are the left.

Seconded. We are the Elizian Left. All the other parties you mentioned are for the most party small and insignificant.

As a coalition, they have some power, but individually none are as large as us. Long live the SLP.
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:44 pm

Arkolon wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Because you're a horrible candidate with social conservative ties. And FYI, we are the largest left wing party, so for all intents and purposes, we are the left.

No need for an ad hominem.

I'm also fairly confident the NWP/Labour alliance is bigger than the SLP, and the SLP is pretty mild on the spectrum - for a South East Asian country, the SLP being pro-globalisation, pro-unilateral free trade, pro-privatisations, pro-FDI makes it come off as very economically right-wing. I'll grant that the social liberalism gives the party a thin veneer of being centre-left but that's nothing compared to the other left-wing parties of the Senate.

Uh, we support unions. No more left than that.
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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:45 pm

Arkolon wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Because you're a horrible candidate with social conservative ties. And FYI, we are the largest left wing party, so for all intents and purposes, we are the left.

No need for an ad hominem.

I'm also fairly confident the NWP/Labour alliance is bigger than the SLP, and the SLP is pretty mild on the spectrum - for a South East Asian country, the SLP being pro-globalisation, pro-unilateral free trade, pro-privatisations, pro-FDI makes it come off as very economically right-wing. I'll grant that the social liberalism gives the party a thin veneer of being centre-left but that's nothing compared to the other left-wing parties of the Senate.

The Labour/NWP coalition is probably roughly the size of the SLP, if not slightly smaller. Some Labour members defected to the SLP recently, so our size difference is especially well pronounced.

We're in favor of fair trade, not unilateral free trade. We also stand against privatization of major public services. Perhaps you haven't read our platform.
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Postby Lykens » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:47 pm

We all have big dicks now put them away, thanks.
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Postby New Tuva SSR » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:51 pm

Lykens wrote:We all have big dicks now put them away, thanks.

Sorry, I want to preserve Harambe's legacy for as long as possible.
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Postby Lykens » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:53 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:
Lykens wrote:We all have big dicks now put them away, thanks.

Sorry, I want to preserve Harambe's legacy for as long as possible.

You win at life.
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Postby Arkolon » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:53 pm

New Tuva SSR wrote:Uh, we support unions. No more left than that.

lol

Belmaria wrote:
Arkolon wrote:No need for an ad hominem.

I'm also fairly confident the NWP/Labour alliance is bigger than the SLP, and the SLP is pretty mild on the spectrum - for a South East Asian country, the SLP being pro-globalisation, pro-unilateral free trade, pro-privatisations, pro-FDI makes it come off as very economically right-wing. I'll grant that the social liberalism gives the party a thin veneer of being centre-left but that's nothing compared to the other left-wing parties of the Senate.

The Labour/NWP coalition is probably roughly the size of the SLP, if not slightly smaller. Some Labour members defected to the SLP recently, so our size difference is especially well pronounced.

We're in favor of fair trade, not unilateral free trade. We also stand against privatization of major public services. Perhaps you haven't read our platform.

The SLP is actually slightly smaller than the Lab/NWP coalition. They're also considerably more left-wing than social liberalism, being comprised of Marxists, market socialists, and democratic socialists. The SLP is centre-left by Western standards; in Elizia, its closest neighbour is the LDP, the country's de facto libertarian party. Nothing more has to be said - on this vote, you're allying with the right-wing of the Senate, which makes you look like a party cosying up to the right instead of trying to portray yourselves as 'the left', a bloc that you've seemingly given up on supporting.

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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:57 pm

Arkolon wrote:
New Tuva SSR wrote:Uh, we support unions. No more left than that.

lol

Belmaria wrote:The Labour/NWP coalition is probably roughly the size of the SLP, if not slightly smaller. Some Labour members defected to the SLP recently, so our size difference is especially well pronounced.

We're in favor of fair trade, not unilateral free trade. We also stand against privatization of major public services. Perhaps you haven't read our platform.

The SLP is actually slightly smaller than the Lab/NWP coalition. They're also considerably more left-wing than social liberalism, being comprised of Marxists, market socialists, and democratic socialists. The SLP is centre-left by Western standards; in Elizia, its closest neighbour is the LDP, the country's de facto libertarian party. Nothing more has to be said - on this vote, you're allying with the right-wing of the Senate, which makes you look like a party cosying up to the right instead of trying to portray yourselves as 'the left', a bloc that you've seemingly given up on supporting.

We're not cozying up to anyone. We're voting against a candidate that supports social conservatism, plain and simple.
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Postby Arkolon » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:00 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Arkolon wrote:lol


The SLP is actually slightly smaller than the Lab/NWP coalition. They're also considerably more left-wing than social liberalism, being comprised of Marxists, market socialists, and democratic socialists. The SLP is centre-left by Western standards; in Elizia, its closest neighbour is the LDP, the country's de facto libertarian party. Nothing more has to be said - on this vote, you're allying with the right-wing of the Senate, which makes you look like a party cosying up to the right instead of trying to portray yourselves as 'the left', a bloc that you've seemingly given up on supporting.

We're not cozying up to anyone. We're voting against a candidate that supports social conservatism, plain and simple.

And you'll support the right-wing in a later confidence vote instead. Interesting to see where the SLP's priorities lie.

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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:01 pm

Arkolon wrote:
Belmaria wrote:We're not cozying up to anyone. We're voting against a candidate that supports social conservatism, plain and simple.

And you'll support the right-wing in a later confidence vote instead. Interesting to see where the SLP's priorities lie.

The SLP's priorities lie in opposing social conservatism and supporting social liberalism. We'll have a better chance of advancing that cause with the Lib Dems than with Elizia First.
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Postby Arachaea » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:05 am

Arkolon wrote:
Belmaria wrote:We're not cozying up to anyone. We're voting against a candidate that supports social conservatism, plain and simple.

And you'll support the right-wing in a later confidence vote instead. Interesting to see where the SLP's priorities lie.
Our priorities lie in protecting civil liberties and social liberalism, and thus we can't support PtH and Elizia First because of their social conservative leanings.
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Postby The Sarian » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:13 am

Belmaria wrote:
Arkolon wrote:And you'll support the right-wing in a later confidence vote instead. Interesting to see where the SLP's priorities lie.

The SLP's priorities lie in opposing social conservatism and supporting social liberalism. We'll have a better chance of advancing that cause with the Lib Dems than with Elizia First.

You do know that we're not social conservatives, right. Unless you apply western standards, but why would anybody do that in a RP?
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