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Postby Skyviolia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:44 pm

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Argentarino wrote:
"Mr. Speaker, if I may respond?" After waiting for approval, Sayid spoke up. "I had not seen my son in days. When he called me, saying he was in Kentang, I was relieved. I told him to come home and have dinner with his mother and I. As we had begun to eat, the police barged into our apartment, demanding we get on the ground. None of us resisted, and when I asked for the warrants to be presented to us, my son and I were arrested. An officer pulled out two warrants, but we were not allowed to review them to ensure their validity. I was questioned without a lawyer present, and despite my repeated demands for one to be presented me, I was denied. Only until I was allowed a phone call did I speak to a lawyer, and even then, they were not allowed to see us before attainment. As my lawyers can attest, my son in the meantime underwent water boarding, and was questioned without an attorney present. He may be a murderer as is claimed of him, but everyone is entitled to constitutional protections. For if one of us is denied these protections, Mr. Speaker, then any of us can be denied them."


"Mr Speaker, while I am reticent to respond as it is still President's Questions, I am disturbed by the allegations presented by the honourable gentleman, and would like to thank him for making me aware of them." Sitting down in an attempt to avoid creating more of a disturbance during question time, Chu made a mental note to contact Kasturi later, and also to contact the Head of the Capital Police Force. It sounded like things were, once again, not as he hoped in Elizia.

"While your at it, your Attorney General is incompetent, your Police Commissioner is a torture enabler. The real question is why you haven't removed them? I, as a close friend of Mister Kasturi and a person who witnessed the arraignment can confidently say that the guilty men were not on the defendants bench, but were on the prosecutors bench and those who wear badges saying they protect us. They are the worst of criminals. Mister Home Secretary if you care about constitutional or human rights, you would relieve these monsters of their offices."
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:58 pm

Ainin wrote:The Attorney-General hands over a Post-It note to the Home Secretary reading "Allegations are bullshit."


Chu scrawls some words on the post-it note, before returning it, having added "Even if they are, I can't just say that".

Skyviolia wrote:"While your at it, your Attorney General is incompetent, your Police Commissioner is a torture enabler. The real question is why you haven't removed them? I, as a close friend of Mister Kasturi and a person who witnessed the arraignment can confidently say that the guilty men were not on the defendants bench, but were on the prosecutors bench and those who wear badges saying they protect us. They are the worst of criminals. Mister Home Secretary if you care about constitutional or human rights, you would relieve these monsters of their offices."


"Mr Speaker, I'm not entirely sure what the honourable gentleman wants from me. I am not omniscient; I do not have the ability to know of these allegations until they are brought to my attention, as has happened today. I shall investigate, and make a decision in due course, with all the facts in front of me, as we all should." Chu sipped his coffee, before turning once again to the Speaker. "Now, I believe the current business is President's Questions; if members of the house should wish to contact me, they know how to do so."

I'm going out, so probably won't be back till the morning, which allows us to move off this tangent back to the business at hand. If I wake up before Tumbra calls us to the next point of business tomorrow, I may respond, but no promises; I'm probably in a lecture.

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Postby Ainin » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:04 pm

"Mr. Speaker, point of order... I guess?" John said as he slowly stood up, incredulous at yet another PQs devolving into nonsense. "I don't believe that 'incompetent' 'monster' is parliamentary language. I will leave it at that, and will not dignify baseless and false accusations with a response -- especially during President's Questions."
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Postby Skyviolia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:09 pm

Ainin wrote:"Mr. Speaker, point of order... I guess?" John said as he slowly stood up, incredulous at yet another PQs devolving into nonsense. "I don't believe that 'incompetent' 'monster' is parliamentary language. I will leave it at that, and will not dignify baseless and false accusations with a response -- especially during President's Questions."

"Mr. Speaker, does the Attorney General call violations of ones basic human rights, torture, and a violation of ones constitutional rights... baseless?"
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Postby DrWinner » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:11 pm

Mark Markson watches the proceedings with interest, nodding along and listening. Then, he realizes he has a question that could be asked, and stands abruptly.


"Mr. President, what are your opinions on the current economic situation within Elizia, particularly in regard to the private sector?"
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Postby Normandy and Picardy » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:17 pm

Mr Speaker, I am sure the President will agree that both the rights of employers and employees are important and that we must be careful to ensure both are held as important. In manufacture, agriculture, and a whole host of other industries we need to ensure businesses have room to invest, and the workers can maintain their rights. My question, Mr Speaker, is as thus; what are this government's plans to encourage investment and help workers, so that we can provide future growth for the benefit of all?
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:52 pm

"ORDER - The Honourable member John Chiu's point of order is well taken. Michel Nugati must withdraw his unparliamentary use of the words "Incompetent" and "Monster"."
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Postby Tumbra » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:30 am

"Order. The time for President's Questions is over. All further answers are to be in writing. We now begin debate on the Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act. Government bill."

Order Paper


All times stated are tentatively 1830 UTC + 8 (Elizian Timezone) unless stated.


Sunday to Monday - Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act (Rt. Hon Tijah Dian)

Monday to Tuesday - National Railway Network Act (Rt. Hon Huang Diem)

Tuesday to Wednesday - National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act (Rt. Hon Jiang Muhammad)

Wednesday to Thursday - Oral Questions to the President

Thursday to Friday - Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act (Rt. Hon John Chiu)

Friday to Saturday - Elizian Immunisation Act (Hon. Chi Guozhi)

Saturday to Sunday - Voting on proposed bIlls



Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act
| Author: The Hon. John Chiu MP, Attorney-General (ChIP) |
| Sponsor: Government |
| Co-sponsor: The Rt. Hon Tijah bin Dian, Leader of the Opposition (SLP) |

An Act to amend the Criminal Code of Elizia; and for connected purposes.



§1 - Amendments to the Criminal Code

  1. Section 30k of the Criminal Code ("Proscribed drug" shall be defined by future legislation. In the absence of such legislation, any such references are legally void) is hereby repealed and struck from the records.
  2. A section 30q shall be added to the Criminal Code, reading:
      q. "Drug cartel" shall be defined as any organised group that does business in the unlawful production, refinement, retail, distribution or transport of proscribed drugs.
  3. A sub-section 17i shall be added to the Criminal Code, reading:
      i. Whoever (i) possesses membership in, or (ii) is in the criminal employment of, a drug cartel is guilty of drug trafficking, a felony. An individual convicted of drug trafficking shall be sentenced to no more than life imprisonment.

§2 - Criminal Code Addendum I: Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs

  1. The Parliament of Elizia hereby ratifies the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, Convention on Psychotropic Substances, and United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances.
  2. The President of Elizia shall, without unreasonable delay, sign the aforementioned treaties.
  3. The Foreign Secretary shall, without unreasonable delay, inform the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the Federation of Elizia's accession to the aforementioned treaties.

§3 - Criminal Code Addendum II: Proscribed narcotics

  1. The following substances, as defined by Schedules I and II of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, are hereby deemed proscribed drugs within the Federation of Elizia:
    1. Acetorphine,
    2. Acetylmethadol,
    3. Alfentanil,
    4. AH-7921,
    5. Allylprodine,
    6. Alphacetylmethadol,
    7. Alphameprodine,
    8. Alphamethadol,
    9. Alphaprodine,
    10. Anileridine,
    11. Benzethidine,
    12. Benzylmorphine,
    13. Betacetylmethadol
    14. Betameprodine
    15. Betamethadol
    16. Betaprodine
    17. Bezitramide,
    18. Cannabis -- and any intoxicating derivative or extract thereof,
    19. Clonitazene
    20. Coca leaf -- and any intoxicating derivative or extract thereof, especially cocaine,
    21. Codoxime,
    22. Desomorphine,
    23. Dextromoramide,
    24. Diampromide,
    25. Diethylthiambutene,
    26. Difenoxin,
    27. Dihydroetorphine,
    28. Dihydromorphine,
    29. Dimenoxadol,
    30. Dimepheptanol,
    31. Dimethylthiambutene,
    32. Dioxaphetyl butyrate,
    33. Diphenoxylate,
    34. Dipipanone,
    35. Drotebanol,
    36. Ecgonine,
    37. Ethylmethylthiambutene,
    38. Etonitazene,
    39. Etorphine,
    40. Etoxeridine,
    41. Fentanyl,
    42. Furethidine,
    43. Heroin,
    44. Hydrocodone,
    45. Hydromorphinol,
    46. Hydromorphone,
    47. Hydroxypethidine,
    48. Isomethadone,
    49. Ketobemidone,
    50. Levomethorphan,
    51. Levomoramide,
    52. Levophenacylmorphan,
    53. Levorphanol,
    54. Metazocine,
    55. Methadone -- and any intoxicating derivative thereof,
    56. Methyldesorphine,
    57. Methyldihydromorphine,
    58. Methylfentanyl,
    59. Methylthiofentanyl,
    60. Metopon,
    61. Moramide,
    62. Morpheridine,
    63. Morphine -- and any intoxicating derivative or compound thereof,
    64. MPPP,
    65. Myrophine,
    66. Nicomorphine,
    67. Noracymethadol,
    68. Norlevorphanol,
    69. Normethadone,
    70. Norpipanone,
    71. Opium poppies -- and any intoxicating derivative, extract or compound thereof,
    72. Oripavine,
    73. Oxycodone -- and any intoxicating compound thereof,
    74. Oxymorphone,
    75. PEPAP
    76. Pethidine -- and any intoxicating derivative or compound thereof,
    77. Phenadoxone,
    78. Phenampromide,
    79. Phenazocine,
    80. Phenomorphan,
    81. Phenoperidine,
    82. Piminodine,
    83. Piritramide,
    84. Properidine,
    85. Racemethorphan,
    86. Racemoramide,
    87. Racemorphan,
    88. Remifentanil,
    89. Sufentanil,
    90. Thebacon,
    91. Thebaine,
    92. Thiofentanyl,
    93. Tilidine,
    94. Trimeperidine,
    95. Acetyldihydrocodeine
    96. Codeine,
    97. Dextropropoxyphene,
    98. Dihydrocodeine,
    99. Ethylmorphine,
    100. Nicocodine,
    101. Nicodicodine,
    102. Norcodeine,
    103. Pholcodine,
    104. Propiram,
    105. Heroin.
  2. The Home Secretary shall have final determination on what constitutes an intoxicating derivative, extract or compound.
  3. The Home Secretary shall have the authority to add substances to Section 3a of this addendum via ministerial decree. They will not, however, have the authority to remove a substance from the list without parliamentary approval.

§4 - Criminal Code Addendum III: Legitimate use of controlled narcotics

  1. A Narcotics Control Board (NCB) shall be established under the Home Office.
  2. The Narcotics Control Board shall consist of five officials, of which three shall be medical doctors knowledgable in narcotics, one shall be a representative of the Home Secretary and one shall be a representative of the Capital Police Force.
  3. The Narcotics Control Board may, by unanimous agreement, designate a proscribed drug as a "controlled medical pharmaceutical," "restricted medical pharmaceutical" or "restricted research pharmaceutical."
  4. Any substance deemed a "controlled medical pharmaceutical" may be:
    i. Legally imported by any company that bears a license from the Home Office for that purpose,
    ii. Legally purchased and retailed by any licensed hospital or pharmacy,
    iii. Legally given to patients within the care of a licensed hospital,
    iv.. Legally acquired and possessed by any individual bearing a valid prescription from a physician accredited by the Elizian Medical Society.
  5. Any substance deemed a "restricted medical pharmaceutical" may be:
    i. Legally imported by any company that bears a license from the Home Office for that purpose,
    ii. Legally purchased by any licensed hospital,
    iii. Legally given to patients within the care of a licensed hospital.
  6. Any substance deemed a "restricted research pharmaceutical" may be:
    i. Legally imported by any company that bears a license from the Home Office for that purpose,
    ii. Legally purchased by any licensed university.

§5 - Entry into force
    This act shall come into effect upon the moment of its assent by the respective authority.


DrWinner wrote:"It is a time to ask the president questions." Mark states. "There is yet to be created legislation to limit what questions can and cannot be asked."


"If the Hon. Member were to expand his horizons beyond his American upbringing he would know that in Westminster-style legislatures these question times are reserved merely for questions of policy, and this has been repeated around the world," Richard mentioned.

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Ainin wrote:"Mr. Speaker, point of order... I guess?" John said as he slowly stood up, incredulous at yet another PQs devolving into nonsense. "I don't believe that 'incompetent' 'monster' is parliamentary language. I will leave it at that, and will not dignify baseless and false accusations with a response -- especially during President's Questions."

"Mr. Speaker, does the Attorney General call violations of ones basic human rights, torture, and a violation of ones constitutional rights... baseless?"


"Mr. Nugati, the last time I checked, the Attorney General was not the President. Do keep your questions to the Presidents only. Other questions can be asked in writing. As for the use of unparliamentary language, I believe my Deputy has already handled this situation quite well, but the Hon. Member needs to withdraw those words starting with the letters 'i' and 'm', and without reservation."
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Postby Skyviolia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:44 am

"I withdraw all I am required to, Mr. Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
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Postby Tumbra » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:39 am

"Order. We now begin debate on the Elizian Immunisation Act."

Order Paper


All times stated are tentatively 1830 UTC + 8 (Elizian Timezone) unless stated.


Sunday to Monday - Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act (Rt. Hon Tijah Dian)

Monday to Tuesday - National Railway Network Act (Rt. Hon Huang Diem)

Tuesday to Wednesday - National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act (Rt. Hon Jiang Muhammad)

Wednesday to Thursday - Oral Questions to the President

Thursday to Friday - Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act (Rt. Hon John Chiu)

Friday to Saturday - Elizian Immunisation Act (Hon. Chi Guozhi)

Saturday to Sunday - Voting on proposed bIlls


Elizian Immunization Act
Author: Chi Guozhi (Shadow Public Services Sec. | Liberal Democrats)
Sponsors: Linanto Aiguo (Shadow Defence Minister | Liberal Democrats), Asako Lee Yuen (Leader of The Opposition | Liberal Democrats), Ahmed Corbor (Shadow Home Sec.| Social Liberal), Mario Fasino (Liberal Democrats), John Chiu (Attorney-General | Chinese Interests)

An Act to Decrease Infection and Disease within the Federation of Elizia through Vaccination.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


Definitions:
  • Elizian Vaccination Bureau - Government Agency to oversee vacination within the Federation of Elizia.
  • Child Care Services - Government Issued Financial Services to assist Child Care.

§1 - Establishment of Elizian Vaccination Bureau

A) The Elizian Immunization Act Mandates that the Elizian Public Services Office establishes the Elizian Vaccination Bureau (EVB) to oversight vaccination within the Federation of Elizia.
  1. The Elizian Vaccination Bureau shall report to the Elizian Public Services Office per Annual Year in regards to Progress and Recommendations to achieve a Full Vaccination within the Federation.
  2. The Elizian Vaccination Bureau shall be funded through the Elizian Public Services Office’s percentage stake of the Federal Budget.

§2 - Mandated Vaccinations

A) The Elizian Immunization Act Mandates that the Elizian Vaccination Bureau (EVB) administers vaccinations in accordance with the below Schedule to consenting citizens to prevent infection and disease within the Federation;

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Age Vaccination
Birth Hepatitis B
2 Months HepB-DTPa_Hib_IPV
Pneumococcal Conjugate (13vPCV)
Rotavirus
4 Months HepB-DTPa_Hib_IPV
Pneumococcal Conjugate (13vPCV)
Rotavirus
6 Months HepB-DTPa_Hib_IPV
Pneumococcal Conjugate (13vPCV)
Rotavirus
Influenza (flu)
12 Months Hib-MenC
MMR
18 Months DTPa
MMRV
4 Years DTPa-IPV
MMR
10-15 Years Chickenpox (Varicella)
HPV vaccine
DTPa
Per Year From 6 Months Influenza (flu)


§3 - Social Services Mandate

A) The Elizian Immunization Act Mandates that Child Care Services provided through Government Departments shall be stripped from Eligible Elizians who refuse to vaccinate their children.
  1. The Elizian Vaccination Bureau (EVB) through Constitutional Law, however, is forbidden to force parents to vaccinate their children.
  2. The Elizian Immunization Act's Child Care Mandate is exempted from Elizians who are unable to receive vaccinations for medical and religious beliefs.

§4 - Immunization Subsidisation

A) The Elizian Immunization Act Mandates Vaccinations to be Free until Elizians reach Adulthood (18).
  1. The Elizian Immunization Act Mandates that the Elizian Public Services Office determines if Adult Immunization is Subsided within the Federation.
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Postby FreYhill » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:59 am

Thank You Mr Speaker. Honourable Senators, as the author of the Elizian Immunisation Act I urge that this vital piece of legislation is passed through the Senate of the Federation - with the Act created to address the issue of Infection and Disease within our nation. Mr Speaker, as the Shadow Public Services Secretary, I commend this act before the Senate, with the act effectively addressing the dangerous issue of low rates of vaccination within our nation. Furthermore, Mr Speaker - The Social Services Mandate of the Elizian Immunisation Act is known to be successful in other nations within our region to address the growing sentiment against vaccination, with the Australian Government’s “No Jab, No Pay” Scheme rising the rate of vaccination to rates that are now considered to be healthy. Therefore Mr Speaker, I strongly commend this Act before the Senate, and I hope that my fellow Senators vote for it.
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Postby Skyviolia » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:56 am

"Mister Speaker I stand in support of my honorable colleague Chi Guozhi for his astounding work in crafting this bill. Immunization is vital in keeping with healthy standards any country should posses. I urge you all to vote aye on this bill!" Michel sat down
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:40 pm

"Mr Speaker, this bill seems to put the lives of people at risk by giving a free pass to religious objectors with regards to the penalties. I find it hard to understand why belief in a magical fairy or indeed fairies plural justifies the increased risk to the collective health of the rest of the nation."
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Postby FreYhill » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:00 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:"Mr Speaker, this bill seems to put the lives of people at risk by giving a free pass to religious objectors with regards to the penalties. I find it hard to understand why belief in a magical fairy or indeed fairies plural justifies the increased risk to the collective health of the rest of the nation."


Mr. Speaker, First, I'd like to thank the Honourable Senator for his statement. Although the Elizian Immunization Act exempts vaccination due to religious purposes, I'm sure that this would be applicable to few citizens within the Federation- with both Islam and Buddhism not objecting to vaccination. However, Mr. Speaker, If The Elizian Immunization Act passes, I'm sure that in the foreseeable future that we can remove this clause through an amendment.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:49 am

Freyhill wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:"Mr Speaker, this bill seems to put the lives of people at risk by giving a free pass to religious objectors with regards to the penalties. I find it hard to understand why belief in a magical fairy or indeed fairies plural justifies the increased risk to the collective health of the rest of the nation."


Mr. Speaker, First, I'd like to thank the Honourable Senator for his statement. Although the Elizian Immunization Act exempts vaccination due to religious purposes, I'm sure that this would be applicable to few citizens within the Federation- with both Islam and Buddhism not objecting to vaccination. However, Mr. Speaker, If The Elizian Immunization Act passes, I'm sure that in the foreseeable future that we can remove this clause through an amendment.

"Mr. Speaker, this is a demonstrably false statement. Islamist elements, which make up a significant proportion of the population, are dangerously anti-vaccination and have hindered the progress of herd immunisation throughout Southeast Asia, especially in Malaysia and Indonesia. A religious exemption gravely endangers the public health of all Elizians. Vaccines should and must be compulsory notwithstanding any misguided objections based on faith alone."
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Postby FreYhill » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:35 am

Ainin wrote:
Freyhill wrote:
Mr. Speaker, First, I'd like to thank the Honourable Senator for his statement. Although the Elizian Immunization Act exempts vaccination due to religious purposes, I'm sure that this would be applicable to few citizens within the Federation- with both Islam and Buddhism not objecting to vaccination. However, Mr. Speaker, If The Elizian Immunization Act passes, I'm sure that in the foreseeable future that we can remove this clause through an amendment.

"Mr. Speaker, this is a demonstrably false statement. Islamist elements, which make up a significant proportion of the population, are dangerously anti-vaccination and have hindered the progress of herd immunisation throughout Southeast Asia, especially in Malaysia and Indonesia. A religious exemption gravely endangers the public health of all Elizians. Vaccines should and must be compulsory notwithstanding any misguided objections based on faith alone."


Apologies Mr Speaker, Being Buddhist, I'm not 100% aware of Sharia Law. However, I'm sure that if this bill is passed, we can work together on an amendment to remove this clause in the foreseeable future. Mr. Speaker, although there are some concerns, I urge the Senate to pass this act rather than shooting down good legislation due to a minor feature of an aspect of the bill.
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Postby Tumbra » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:58 am

"Order. We now begin voting."

Order Paper


All times stated are tentatively 1830 UTC + 8 (Elizian Timezone) unless stated.


Sunday to Monday - Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act (Rt. Hon Tijah Dian)

Monday to Tuesday - National Railway Network Act (Rt. Hon Huang Diem)

Tuesday to Wednesday - National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act (Rt. Hon Jiang Muhammad)

Wednesday to Thursday - Oral Questions to the President

Thursday to Friday - Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act (Rt. Hon John Chiu)

Friday to Saturday - Elizian Immunisation Act (Hon. Chi Guozhi)

Saturday to Sunday - Voting on proposed bIlls


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[b]Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act[/b]:
[b]National Railway Network Act[/b]:
[b]National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act[/b]:
[b]Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act[/b]:
[b]Elizian Immunisation Act[/b]:


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FreYhill
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Posts: 452
Founded: Sep 14, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby FreYhill » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:06 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: AYE
National Railway Network Act: AYE
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: ABSTAIN
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: AYE
Elizian Immunisation Act: AYE
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Ainin
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Founded: Mar 05, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Ainin » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:08 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: AYE
National Railway Network Act: AYE
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: AYE
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: AYE
Elizian Immunisation Act: ABSTAIN
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Normandy and Picardy
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Posts: 1991
Founded: Aug 11, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Normandy and Picardy » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:09 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: Aye
National Railway Network Act: Abstain
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: Aye
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: Aye
Elizian Immunisation Act: Aye
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Nariterrr
Minister
 
Posts: 2435
Founded: Jan 27, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Nariterrr » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:52 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: AYE
National Railway Network Act: NAY
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: AYE
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: AYE
Elizian Immunisation Act: AYE
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The Sarian
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Posts: 1455
Founded: Jun 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Sarian » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:56 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: NAY
National Railway Network Act: AYE
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: AYE
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: AYE
Elizian Immunisation Act: NAY
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The New World Oceania
Minister
 
Posts: 2525
Founded: May 03, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The New World Oceania » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:41 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: AYE
National Railway Network Act: AYE
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: AYE
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: NAY
Elizian Immunisation Act: AYE
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Electrum
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Founded: Jan 20, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Electrum » Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:10 am

Constitutional Amendment (Parliamentary Procedure) Act: AYE
National Railway Network Act: AYE
National Memorial Commission (Establishment) Act: AYE
Criminal Code (Narcotics Trade) Amendment Act: AYE
Elizian Immunisation Act: NAY
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