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Postby Vedastia » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:38 pm

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Tobacco Use Reduction Act: NAY
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Postby The Symplegades » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:41 pm

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: NAY
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby Belgicaven » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:48 pm

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: AYE
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:50 pm

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Postby The Symplegades » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:37 pm

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"I must oppose the tobacco regulation legislation. I believe plain packaging will have a very negative effect on tobacco line workers, who will not only have to implement the new changes, but will suffer layoffs thanks to a decrease of purchasing due to plain packaging"
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:02 pm

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: AYE
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby St James » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:21 pm

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: NAY
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby Hirvania » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:44 pm

Central Bank Act: Aye
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Free Questions Act: Aye
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Postby House of Judah » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:23 pm

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: NAY
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: NAY
Free Questions Act: AYE

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Postby Filimons » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:28 pm

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: AYE
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: AYE
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:41 am

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: NAY
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:18 am

Central Bank Act: AYE
Postal Service Act: AYE
Tobacco Use Reduction Act: NAY
Free Questions Act: AYE
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Postby Tumbra » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:17 am

"Order."

"With 29 for, 3 against and 1 abstention, Question accordingly resolved that the Central Bank Act passes."

"With 30 for, 2 against and 1 abstention, Question accordingly resolved that the Postal Service Act passes."

"With 25 for, 7 against and 1 abstention, Question accordingly resolved that the Tobacco Use Regulation Act passes."

"With 31 for, 1 against and 1 abstention, Question accordingly resolved that the Free Questions Act passes.

"We now enter a period of Free Questions. The rules of engagement are as follows:

b) Questions must be directed to the government as a whole, or to members of government;
c) Each non-governing party shall be allotted two questions, regardless of coalition affiliation;
d) Each independent, unaffiliated member of the legislature shall be allotted one question;
e) Questions are required to be answered by a member of the government, even if that member is not directly addressed by the question, within 72 hours, regardless of the length of the indefinite Question and Answer period.

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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:52 am

"Mr. Speaker, I think I can speak for the majority of opposition members in this Senate. The majority of us have noted, even within your own government, that you have been sitting around doing nothing. It really is shameful. The majority of bills have as of yet come from members of the opposition and I can only count a few that have come from the Government, if any. I understand that this is a lame duck period and things will really start rolling when we adjourn the convention, but you have demonstrated a lack of leadership. I can only think of one member of your government, the Hon. John Chui, who is actually doing good work, and I commend him for that. But the lack of productivity is insane. Not to mention that your government has been unable to get your own members to go out and vote. The Opposition has surpassed you in the polls and so have we. You are now in third place and you have VERY high unfavorable.

In short, can the Government answer why it has been so inactive, and why should we support the government?
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:24 pm

Chu Canh Kim stands to speak.

"On Wednesday 17th August, I will be travelling to Denmark for a friend's wedding, and won't return to Parliament until Tuesday 30th August. During that time, I have asked Senator Abraham Kamassi to act as my proxy in the chamber."

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:24 pm

Nariterrr wrote:"Mr. Speaker, I think I can speak for the majority of opposition members in this Senate. The majority of us have noted, even within your own government, that you have been sitting around doing nothing. It really is shameful. The majority of bills have as of yet come from members of the opposition and I can only count a few that have come from the Government, if any. I understand that this is a lame duck period and things will really start rolling when we adjourn the convention, but you have demonstrated a lack of leadership. I can only think of one member of your government, the Hon. John Chui, who is actually doing good work, and I commend him for that. But the lack of productivity is insane. Not to mention that your government has been unable to get your own members to go out and vote. The Opposition has surpassed you in the polls and so have we. You are now in third place and you have VERY high unfavorable.

In short, can the Government answer why it has been so inactive, and why should we support the government?

"Mister Speaker, I believe the honorable member begins from the faulty assumption that this is a fully fledged government of Elizia. This is a provisional government, explicitly created to facilitate a smooth transition from our turbulent past to our democratic future. In this manner, the government has taken great care to not enact controversial measures as a whole, though that cannot be said of certain other members of this chamber. The government has taken care to encourage dialogue and a cooperative environment, and certainly other members of this chamber have not endeavored to do the same. The government, and this is perhaps a step further, understands that to introduce major legislation with great impact on society would in fact be detrimental to its very purpose. To introduce large programs without the actual capability to hold them together and oversee their initial implementation would be foolish, reckless, and frankly improper. Productivity in this government has come in the form of bills in part. I humbly point to my own Free Questions Act, which seeks to hold governments, including this one, accountable to the representatives of the people of Elizia. It promotes questions, challenges, and dialogue, like the question you asked and the response I am giving currently. Mister Speaker, the government has been extraordinarily productive when it comes to achieving its designed purpose, and I am proud to be a member of it."

Then, after taking his seat and turning off the mic, Kamassi muttered under his breath: "Polls and turnout don't meant anything, they're taken from chamber voting, which is an poor predictor of how presidential elections turn out. We also don't whip our members on every vote because we don't need to get people to vote AYE or NAY on a bloody simple common sense bill. Also good luck seeing how active your members are after you've been whipping them every week to vote on largely pointless bills. And I can't say this out loud because they won't buy the explanation anyway. Bloody hell."
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:25 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:Chu Canh Kim stands to speak.

"On Wednesday 17th August, I will be travelling to Denmark for a friend's wedding, and won't return to Parliament until Tuesday 30th August. During that time, I have asked Senator Abraham Kamassi to act as my proxy in the chamber."

"I humbly accept the duty as proxy."

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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:33 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:"Mr. Speaker, I think I can speak for the majority of opposition members in this Senate. The majority of us have noted, even within your own government, that you have been sitting around doing nothing. It really is shameful. The majority of bills have as of yet come from members of the opposition and I can only count a few that have come from the Government, if any. I understand that this is a lame duck period and things will really start rolling when we adjourn the convention, but you have demonstrated a lack of leadership. I can only think of one member of your government, the Hon. John Chui, who is actually doing good work, and I commend him for that. But the lack of productivity is insane. Not to mention that your government has been unable to get your own members to go out and vote. The Opposition has surpassed you in the polls and so have we. You are now in third place and you have VERY high unfavorable.

In short, can the Government answer why it has been so inactive, and why should we support the government?

"Mister Speaker, I believe the honorable member begins from the faulty assumption that this is a fully fledged government of Elizia. This is a provisional government, explicitly created to facilitate a smooth transition from our turbulent past to our democratic future. In this manner, the government has taken great care to not enact controversial measures as a whole, though that cannot be said of certain other members of this chamber. The government has taken care to encourage dialogue and a cooperative environment, and certainly other members of this chamber have not endeavored to do the same. The government, and this is perhaps a step further, understands that to introduce major legislation with great impact on society would in fact be detrimental to its very purpose. To introduce large programs without the actual capability to hold them together and oversee their initial implementation would be foolish, reckless, and frankly improper. Productivity in this government has come in the form of bills in part. I humbly point to my own Free Questions Act, which seeks to hold governments, including this one, accountable to the representatives of the people of Elizia. It promotes questions, challenges, and dialogue, like the question you asked and the response I am giving currently. Mister Speaker, the government has been extraordinarily productive when it comes to achieving its designed purpose, and I am proud to be a member of it."

The Minister hasn't answered the questions. Yes, this is a provincial government, but that is no excuse to sit around and do nothing. Being active doesn't just mean presenting bills, it also means having contact with other Senators, building the government, providing for basic programmes, establishing structure, being active. Yes, I understand where the member is coming from, yes I understand that this is a provincial government, but it is a government none the less. It really isn't acting like a government. And Senator, should be vote for you in the future, seeing how inactive this administration is."
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby The Sarian » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:37 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:"Mister Speaker, I believe the honorable member begins from the faulty assumption that this is a fully fledged government of Elizia. This is a provisional government, explicitly created to facilitate a smooth transition from our turbulent past to our democratic future. In this manner, the government has taken great care to not enact controversial measures as a whole, though that cannot be said of certain other members of this chamber. The government has taken care to encourage dialogue and a cooperative environment, and certainly other members of this chamber have not endeavored to do the same. The government, and this is perhaps a step further, understands that to introduce major legislation with great impact on society would in fact be detrimental to its very purpose. To introduce large programs without the actual capability to hold them together and oversee their initial implementation would be foolish, reckless, and frankly improper. Productivity in this government has come in the form of bills in part. I humbly point to my own Free Questions Act, which seeks to hold governments, including this one, accountable to the representatives of the people of Elizia. It promotes questions, challenges, and dialogue, like the question you asked and the response I am giving currently. Mister Speaker, the government has been extraordinarily productive when it comes to achieving its designed purpose, and I am proud to be a member of it."

The Minister hasn't answered the questions. Yes, this is a provincial government, but that is no excuse to sit around and do nothing. Being active doesn't just mean presenting bills, it also means having contact with other Senators, building the government, providing for basic programmes, establishing structure, being active. Yes, I understand where the member is coming from, yes I understand that this is a provincial government, but it is a government none the less. It really isn't acting like a government. And Senator, should be vote for you in the future, seeing how inactive this administration is."

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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:04 pm

The Sarian wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:The Minister hasn't answered the questions. Yes, this is a provincial government, but that is no excuse to sit around and do nothing. Being active doesn't just mean presenting bills, it also means having contact with other Senators, building the government, providing for basic programmes, establishing structure, being active. Yes, I understand where the member is coming from, yes I understand that this is a provincial government, but it is a government none the less. It really isn't acting like a government. And Senator, should be vote for you in the future, seeing how inactive this administration is."

Sa Ri An shouts "shame, shame" from her seat.

Because asking a follow-up question is obviously shameful, another reason to remove the current coalition from office. Ahmed Corbor thought to himself.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby The Licentian Isles » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:10 pm

"Question for the purpose of clarification, Mr Speaker; does a follow-up question, like that asked by the leader of the SLP, constitute a second question under the Free Questions Act ??"

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Postby Nariterrr » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:11 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:"Question for the purpose of clarification, Mr Speaker; does a follow-up question, like that asked by the leader of the SLP, constitute a second question under the Free Questions Act ??"

"When do the words 'follow-up question' leave my mouth? Enlighten me?"
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