[NSG Senate] Senate Chamber: Do We Have Work?

[Collatis]

"Mr Speaker, this is absurd. Our predecessors were madmen who had no interest in putting their country first. We should sprout a new democracy by breaking ties with the old, not staying in the quagmire of a past which we are bound to by our burdensome IMF debts."

"Must I remind you, sir, that you were a part of the previous regime? If you are indeed a "madman who has no interest in putting his country first" that might explain your support of this bill, but it does make me wonder why you deserve to serve a country that you do not put first!"

An excellent bill. All elizians should work towards fighting economic imperialism and corporatism. Our new president, however, is on the side of foreign interests. The liberal democrats support of the imf is proof they are not fit to be leading our nation. They work against the betterment and empowerment of the elizian people.

"Your words have only proved that you are more interested in partisan and quite frankly unparliamentary attacks than you are in actually serving this country."

[Skyviolia]

An excellent bill. All elizians should work towards fighting economic imperialism and corporatism. Our new president, however, is on the side of foreign interests. The liberal democrats support of the imf is proof they are not fit to be leading our nation. They work against the betterment and empowerment of the elizian people.

"I find it insulting that you openly accuse my party of not caring for the sake of the Elizian people when WE are the ones that are trying to be economically and globally prudent. I do not want to see interest rates rise to a rate we cannot manage. The IMF could keep this national afloat."

[Arkolon]

"Mr Speaker, this is absurd. Our predecessors were madmen who had no interest in putting their country first. We should sprout a new democracy by breaking ties with the old, not staying in the quagmire of a past which we are bound to by our burdensome IMF debts."

"Must I remind you, sir, that you were a part of the previous regime? If you are indeed a "madman who has no interest in putting his country first" that might explain your support of this bill, but it does make me wonder why you deserve to serve a country that you do not put first!"

"Mr Speaker, the President must be aware that I represented the people of Balatang as a representative of the ENC - the only existing political party allowed. I was a local politician that represented his citizens, not a leading ENC official. I had the courage to stand for what I believed in and to represent the people, and my actions did not speak for those of the ENC and neither did their actions speak for mine. Mr Speaker, is the President not himself embarrassed that he could not even muster the courage to stand up for the people in this time, instead choosing to live on the other side of the world, in the arms of the Westerners he is defending today?"

[Coconut Isle]

"Credit is only an issue if the government tries to issue bonds. Government debt is a burden on our children, a burden on our future, and a burden on our country. Leaving the IMF would mean cancelling our odious debt, and yes it means higher interest rates, but why would that be a problem, when we should commit ourselves to not allow excess in government?"

"I would rather pay my debts than cowardly give them up. Higher intrest rates could CRASH our economy."

"Structural adjustment loans lead to stagnating economies through the imposition of austerity."

[MERIZoC]

"Mr Speaker, this is absurd. Our predecessors were madmen who had no interest in putting their country first. We should sprout a new democracy by breaking ties with the old, not staying in the quagmire of a past which we are bound to by our burdensome IMF debts."

"Must I remind you, sir, that you were a part of the previous regime? If you are indeed a "madman who has no interest in putting his country first" that might explain your support of this bill, but it does make me wonder why you deserve to serve a country that you do not put first!"

An excellent bill. All elizians should work towards fighting economic imperialism and corporatism. Our new president, however, is on the side of foreign interests. The liberal democrats support of the imf is proof they are not fit to be leading our nation. They work against the betterment and empowerment of the elizian people.

"Your words have only proved that you are more interested in partisan and quite frankly unparliamentary attacks than you are in actually serving this country."

Mr speaker, I'd like to know what in my short speech was unparliamentary. I have offered legitimate criticisms of our president, and he may do all he can to deny them but they remain true.

[Collatis]

"Must I remind you, sir, that you were a part of the previous regime? If you are indeed a "madman who has no interest in putting his country first" that might explain your support of this bill, but it does make me wonder why you deserve to serve a country that you do not put first!"

"Mr Speaker, the President must be aware that I represented the people of Balatang as a representative of the ENC - the only existing political party allowed. I was a local politician that represented his citizens, not a leading ENC official. I had the courage to stand for what I believed in and to represent the people, and my actions did not speak for those of the ENC and neither did their actions speak for mine. Mr Speaker, is the President not himself embarrassed that he could not even muster the courage to stand up for the people in this time, instead choosing to live on the other side of the world, in the arms of the Westerners he is defending today?"

"Excuse you, sir. You must know the reason why I was forced to flee Elizia in my youth? The ENC slaughtered half of my family. Why? Because of our political views. Because of our ethnicity. Because of our religion. That is part of the reason why I am such a strong defender of diversity and tolerance today. I know what it is like to be persecuted for who you are, for what you believe. And you should also know that while you were a member of the ENC, I spent my time in the UK funding opposition groups attempting to establish actual democracy in Elizia. And then when I thought I could do more to save my home from tyranny, I came to Elizia, helped found National Council for Democratic Salvation, and personally played a role in gaining international support for the rebels. I apologize to the senator that I could not sacrifice my principals for power as he did, but not all of us have the stomach for such actions."

[Collatis]

Mr speaker, I'd like to know what in my short speech was unparliamentary. I have offered legitimate criticisms of our president, and he may do all he can to deny them but they remain true.

"You are a f cking liar."

"I mean, I will not descend to your level, senator. I wouldn't want to be warned by the speaker..."

[Arkolon]

"So why, Mr Speaker, does the President defend the IMF, an institution that does not respect our democratic will to exercise financial sovereignty, keeps the future of our country chained by odious debt, and would necessarily overrule this very government in order to pay back international creditors? This doesn't sound very democratic to me; it sounds like the President has no interest in the democracy or sovereignty of our nation whatsoever."

[Atlanticatia]

"So why, Mr Speaker, does the President defend the IMF, an institution that does not respect our democratic will to exercise financial sovereignty, keeps the future of our country chained by odious debt, and would necessarily overrule this very government in order to pay back international creditors? This doesn't sound very democratic to me; it sounds like the President has no interest in the democracy or sovereignty of our nation whatsoever."

"Hear, hear! Mr. Speaker, the President is only interested in serving the global elite, not the ordinary families of this great nation."

[Davincia]

"So why, Mr Speaker, does the President defend the IMF, an institution that does not respect our democratic will to exercise financial sovereignty, keeps the future of our country chained by odious debt, and would necessarily overrule this very government in order to pay back international creditors? This doesn't sound very democratic to me; it sounds like the President has no interest in the democracy or sovereignty of our nation whatsoever."

"Hear, hear! Mr. Speaker, the President is only interested in serving the global elite, not the ordinary families of this great nation."

"Is it preferable for our people to starve from isolation? We have no other means of reaching out as effectively without the IMF."

[Britanno 2]

"Will the ordinary families of our great nation benefit from international isolation? Will they benefit from Elizia turning its back to the rest of the world? Need I remind the senators to my left that we would not be here debating today as free citizens of a free nation if it had not been for the efforts of the global community! They did not turn their backs on us then and we should not turn out backs on them now."

[Arkolon]

"Hear, hear! Mr. Speaker, the President is only interested in serving the global elite, not the ordinary families of this great nation."

"Is it preferable for our people to starve from isolation? We have no other means of reaching out as effectively without the IMF."

"Why need to reach out for foreign assistance? We can still trade Elizian goods and money and issue government bonds outside of the IMF."

[MERIZoC]

"Will the ordinary families of our great nation benefit from international isolation? Will they benefit from Elizia turning its back to the rest of the world? Need I remind the senators to my left that we would not be here debating today as free citizens of a free nation if it had not been for the efforts of the global community! They did not turn their backs on us then and we should not turn out backs on them now."

Mr speaker I fail to see how rejecting imperialist debt is "turning our backs" on the international community.

[Arkolon]

"Will the ordinary families of our great nation benefit from international isolation? Will they benefit from Elizia turning its back to the rest of the world? Need I remind the senators to my left that we would not be here debating today as free citizens of a free nation if it had not been for the efforts of the global community! They did not turn their backs on us then and we should not turn out backs on them now."

"Mr Speaker, is the Hon Gentleman aware that the IMF is not the UN or the WTO, and that it is an institution that will ideologically impose austerity through the contravention of our democratic government just to repay our odious debt to international creditors? I can only agree that the international community is not one we should turn our backs to. The IMF, however, represents an entrenched elite, totally at odds with what any Elizian could stand for, and leaving it would not isolate us from the international community in the slightest."

[Vedastia]

"So why, Mr Speaker, does the President defend the IMF, an institution that does not respect our democratic will to exercise financial sovereignty, keeps the future of our country chained by odious debt, and would necessarily overrule this very government in order to pay back international creditors? This doesn't sound very democratic to me; it sounds like the President has no interest in the democracy or sovereignty of our nation whatsoever."

"Hear, hear! Mr. Speaker, the President is only interested in serving the global elite, not the ordinary families of this great nation."

"How can we serve Elizia's families if they have no jobs? We have one of the lowest government credit ratings in all of Southeast Asia, if not the lowest. With our economy in shambles, we've had enough difficulty securing whatever foreign investment we somehow managed to attract. We have to pay off our debt and our economic recovery would be severely hampered if we leave the IMF at this time."

"If we pay off our debts and have a stable economy, Elizia would be able to leave it as we would no longer need its financial support."

"But we will always need it's support and it is good to have around."

"Not if our economy improves and we pay off our debt. If we stay in the IMF for much longer after our need for it has passed, our ability to act as an independent sovereign nation would be heavily impeded. It is run by an entrenched multinational financial class that not even our former colonizers can escape."

[Davincia]

"Is it preferable for our people to starve from isolation? We have no other means of reaching out as effectively without the IMF."

"Why need to reach out for foreign assistance? We can still trade Elizian goods and money and issue government bonds outside of the IMF."

"Keep in mind that doing so without the IMF will be more challenging."

[Belmaria]

"Is it preferable for our people to starve from isolation? We have no other means of reaching out as effectively without the IMF."

"Why need to reach out for foreign assistance? We can still trade Elizian goods and money and issue government bonds outside of the IMF."

"What you propose is just flat out idiotic. We can't trade with a majority of the world if they have trade sanctions against us, which will likely occur if we withdraw from the IMF."

[Arkolon]

"Why need to reach out for foreign assistance? We can still trade Elizian goods and money and issue government bonds outside of the IMF."

"Keep in mind that doing so without the IMF will be more challenging."

"Not really."

[Belmaria]

"Keep in mind that doing so without the IMF will be more challenging."

"Not really."

"Someone doesn't know how global banking works."

[MERIZoC]

"Why need to reach out for foreign assistance? We can still trade Elizian goods and money and issue government bonds outside of the IMF."

"What you propose is just flat out idiotic. We can't trade with a majority of the world if they have trade sanctions against us, which will likely occur if we withdraw from the IMF."

This is absurd fearmongering, Mr speaker.

[Argentarino]

"What you propose is just flat out idiotic. We can't trade with a majority of the world if they have trade sanctions against us, which will likely occur if we withdraw from the IMF."

This is absurd fearmongering, Mr speaker.

"No, it is realism, Mr. Speaker," Sayid countered.

[MERIZoC]

This is absurd fearmongering, Mr speaker.

"No, it is realism, Mr. Speaker," Sayid countered.

Mr speaker I challenge the honorable member to back up that assertion with facts and evidence

[Belmaria]

Mr Speaker, in light of the recent events in the formation of the new provisional government, and the ALDE's withdrawal of support of said government as a result of a lack of consensus within the coalition, I hereby motion for a vote of no confidence in the president of our nation.

[Britanno 2]

"Mr Speaker, is the Hon Gentleman aware that the IMF is not the UN or the WTO, and that it is an institution that will ideologically impose austerity through the contravention of our democratic government just to repay our odious debt to international creditors? I can only agree that the international community is not one we should turn our backs to. The IMF, however, represents an entrenched elite, totally at odds with what any Elizian could stand for, and leaving it would not isolate us from the international community in the slightest."

"If the honourable gentleman's grasp on foreign affairs is as lacking as he has shown it to be, could I recommend he remove himself from this discussion? The IMF may be a force for bad in this world, but it is a necessary evil. He compares it to the UN and, while clearly less important than that organisation that we are all indebted to, the IMF is another essential organisation that we must join, despite his party's empty rhetoric."

[The Nihilistic view]

"Do deposed Presidents get beheaded?"