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〉 Elizia Constitutional Convention
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From the Desk of the United Nations Special Rapporteur

In accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 2267 and the wishes of the Elizian representatives, the United Nations Special Rapporteur Abdul Razman has called for an official Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia. Believing that Clause XIV of the United Nations Protocol for Elizian Democratic Self-Governance, has been duly met, the Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia will be executed in accordance with the Constitutional Convention Act, authored by Ahmed Alef, and submitted to the Desk of the United Nations Special Rapporteur Abdul Razman. The Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia will be chaired by United Nations Special Rapporteur Abdul Razman, who has supremacy over all workings and traditions of the Convention. In accordance with Section Two, Article One of the Constitutional Convention Act, the Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia shall run for no less than, and will not be adjourned before, 360 hours of deliberation. The Constitutional Convention shall try to, when possible, respect the advisory agenda set forth by Section Three of the Constitutional Convention Act.

Invited to the Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia shall be selected delegates from the local political landscape of Elizia. The Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia will take place from the 2nd of July to the 12th of July at the very least, and will take place at the Kentang Conference Center. Any further questions can be sent directly to the Desk of the United Nations Special Rapporteur.


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For reference, here is the preliminary agenda set forth by the Constitutional Convention Act are as follows.

Section 3: Procedures of the Convention
The general principles of parliamentary procedure shall be adhered to at the Convention. Any proposal may be submitted to the assembly for drafting and critique. With two seconds, any proposal may be submitted to the assembly for a vote. Submissions for votes shall be made with special emphasis to the motion, such that it cannot be accidentally ignored. The agenda of the Convention shall be as follows.
    a) On the first day the Convention shall elect a President and agree to or amend this agenda, then draft and submit proposals for a preamble.
    b) On the second day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals for a Bill of a Rights.
    c) On the third day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the foundations of Elizia and structure of its government.
    d) On the fourth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding devolution, federalism, constituencies, and provinces.
    e) On the fifth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the judiciary.
    f) On the sixth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the legislature.
    g) On the seventh day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the executive.
    h) On the eighth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding elections.
    i) On the ninth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals for all other concerns.
    j) On the tenth day the Convention shall vote on all submitted proposals and adjourn.
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The Constitutional Convention on the Government of Elizia is now in session.

The agenda for the next 36 hours will be the following. The first 18 hours will include debate on the preliminary agenda as well as time for submissions for a preamble. The following 18 hours will see the amendments to the preliminary agenda be voted on, as well as on the proposed preambles.

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Juwita bin Fajar joined his colleagues from the Liberal Democrats, wearing his trademark beaming smile. He looked around the room and sighed, before sitting down. "For the future, I suppose", he muttered to himself, waiting for things to pick up.
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Ahmed Alef rises from a seat in the second row on the left side of the conference room.

"Mr. President," he says, "I would like to present the following draft of a preamble for debate and deliberation. My page will be distributing a copy of my draft to each member. It reads:

'This Constitution of the Republic of Elizia shall advance the cultural, social, political, and economic institutions of Elizian society based on our principles and norms, which represent an honest aspiration of the Elizian peoples. This aspiration, exemplified by the nature of the December Liberation and by the course of the Elizian people's struggle from our beginning until victory, reflects in the decisive and forceful calls raised by all segments of the populations. Now, at the threshold of this great liberation, our nation, with all its beings, seeks its fulfillment.'"


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Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:Ahmed Alef rises from a seat in the second row on the left side of the conference room.

"Mr. President," he says, "I would like to present the following draft of a preamble for debate and deliberation. My page will be distributing a copy of my draft to each member. It reads:

'This Constitution of the Republic of Elizia shall advance the cultural, social, political, and economic institutions of Elizian society based on our principles and norms, which represent an honest aspiration of the Elizian peoples. This aspiration, exemplified by the nature of the December Liberation and by the course of the Elizian people's struggle from our beginning until victory, reflects in the decisive and forceful calls raised by all segments of the populations. Now, at the threshold of this great liberation, our nation, with all its beings, seeks its fulfillment.'"


Alef takes his seat.

Dressed in his casual non-militray attire for the convention, Hutapea interrupts immediately after this statement is given, "Why do you insist on peoples, when we are one nation of one people. We are all Elizians. And referring to the capitulation of our country to the foreign powers by means of the United Nations is nothing to be aspired too. You, and what you propose is the exemplifying of cowardice and foreign domination." Hutapea shakes his head and points his finger at Ahmed as he continues, "We are not liberated at this moment, we are oppressed, occupied, and are forced to attend this shamble of a convention to appease the foreign domination of this country! We need to stand up to the foreign agents who run this country for a change."

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Postby Normandy and Picardy » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:58 am

Once Hutapea finished talking, Juwita bin Fajar stood up and begun to speak, directly addressing the man who had just spoken:

"Firstly, I welcome this preamble, and once I have spoken I hope we can begin in earnest

Mr Alef, although I do not doubt that your intention is good, if you or any other force manipulates this in order to restrict the freedoms of the people of Elizia in the name of the 'interests' and 'traditions' of the Elizian people, then I will enjoy the floccinaucinihilipilification of the ugly constitution that arose from that as the monstrosity it would be. However, I welcome this preamble. Still, I need reassurances from Elizia First, the ELM and what remains of the ENC that you shan't drag us back in the past by abusing the wording of this preamble. If I may ask for an alteration to the preamble, it would be the removal of the phrase 'based on the principles and norms"; the principles of past must not be allowed to resurface, and the norms of the modern Elizia are yet to be formed"

bin Fajar then turned to Mr Hutapea and spoke as thus:

"Have you ever thought that the people we needed to be liberated from was the ENC, and their vile oppression. We must reach out to the world, not shut ourselves off, and I find your words to be an attack on this convention"

bin Fajar then spoke to all the members:

"Remember, we have escaped from years oppression. Do not listen to the vile words of the man who doesn't care for Elizia, and instead let us build a brighter, fairer, democratic Elizia!"
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"With all due respect mr Fajar, you are a liberal. It is of the highest hypocrisy that you are preaching for a free and democratic Elizia but at the same time preach the need for our great nation to be hindered by the IMF World Bank and United Nations."

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After downing his glass of water Bunga gets back down to business.

"It is my belief that Elizia will be most free if we all examine the constitution of Belarus and model our nation off of that. Be aware that Belarus more than doubled its gdp since the fall of the Soviet Union without pandering to the forces of globalization."

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Postby Collatis » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:40 am

Kamchastkia wrote:Dressed in his casual non-militray attire for the convention, Hutapea interrupts immediately after this statement is given, "Why do you insist on peoples, when we are one nation of one people. We are all Elizians. And referring to the capitulation of our country to the foreign powers by means of the United Nations is nothing to be aspired too. You, and what you propose is the exemplifying of cowardice and foreign domination." Hutapea shakes his head and points his finger at Ahmed as he continues, "We are not liberated at this moment, we are oppressed, occupied, and are forced to attend this shamble of a convention to appease the foreign domination of this country! We need to stand up to the foreign agents who run this country for a change."

Kevin Katdare stands immediately as the man finishes speaking, clearly infuriated, "The Elizian people are a good and democratic people. They are the people who, just a few months ago, successfully removed the oppressive regime that you were a part of, Mr. Hutapea. I hardly consider those who have slaughtered their own people to be Elizians. I hardly consider those who have committed massive human rights abuses to be Elizians. So no, Mr. Hutapea, we are not all Elizians here. I can hardly consider you to be a human being, much less an Elizian. Although I do agree with you on one thing. We must stand up to the agents who have run our country. But it is not the United Nations or any foreigner who we must fear influence from. It is the agents of oppression. The agents of hate. The agents of ethnic cleansing. That's right, Mr. Hutapea, you and your party. So, in that spirit, do not blame me for disregarding anything that comes out of your foul mouth."

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Kamchastkia wrote:Dressed in his casual non-militray attire for the convention, Hutapea interrupts immediately after this statement is given, "Why do you insist on peoples, when we are one nation of one people. We are all Elizians. And referring to the capitulation of our country to the foreign powers by means of the United Nations is nothing to be aspired too. You, and what you propose is the exemplifying of cowardice and foreign domination." Hutapea shakes his head and points his finger at Ahmed as he continues, "We are not liberated at this moment, we are oppressed, occupied, and are forced to attend this shamble of a convention to appease the foreign domination of this country! We need to stand up to the foreign agents who run this country for a change."

Kevin Katdare stands immediately as the man finishes speaking, clearly infuriated, "The Elizian people are a good and democratic people. They are the people who, just a few months ago, successfully removed the oppressive regime that you were a part of, Mr. Hutapea. I hardly consider those who have slaughtered their own people to be Elizians. I hardly consider those who have committed massive human rights abuses to be Elizians. So no, Mr. Hutapea, we are not all Elizians here. I can hardly consider you to be a human being, much less an Elizian. Although I do agree with you on one thing. We must stand up to the agents who have run our country. But it is not the United Nations or any foreigner who we must fear influence from. It is the agents of oppression. The agents of hate. The agents of ethnic cleansing. That's right, Mr. Hutapea, you and your party. So, in that spirit, do not blame me for disregarding anything that comes out of your foul mouth."

"Hear, hear!" shouts Adonis Hadiningrat. "I think it is completely baffling that we are giving these people, who got away with oppressing our fellow Elizians, the time of day! If anything, these people should be brought to justice – the sooner, the better. Our nation cannot reconcile until the horrors of our past are acknowledged and those responsible for them are punished!"
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Kamchastkia wrote:Dressed in his casual non-militray attire for the convention, Hutapea interrupts immediately after this statement is given, "Why do you insist on peoples, when we are one nation of one people. We are all Elizians. And referring to the capitulation of our country to the foreign powers by means of the United Nations is nothing to be aspired too. You, and what you propose is the exemplifying of cowardice and foreign domination." Hutapea shakes his head and points his finger at Ahmed as he continues, "We are not liberated at this moment, we are oppressed, occupied, and are forced to attend this shamble of a convention to appease the foreign domination of this country! We need to stand up to the foreign agents who run this country for a change."

Kevin Katdare stands immediately as the man finishes speaking, clearly infuriated, "The Elizian people are a good and democratic people. They are the people who, just a few months ago, successfully removed the oppressive regime that you were a part of, Mr. Hutapea. I hardly consider those who have slaughtered their own people to be Elizians. I hardly consider those who have committed massive human rights abuses to be Elizians. So no, Mr. Hutapea, we are not all Elizians here. I can hardly consider you to be a human being, much less an Elizian. Although I do agree with you on one thing. We must stand up to the agents who have run our country. But it is not the United Nations or any foreigner who we must fear influence from. It is the agents of oppression. The agents of hate. The agents of ethnic cleansing. That's right, Mr. Hutapea, you and your party. So, in that spirit, do not blame me for disregarding anything that comes out of your foul mouth."


"I must concur with the statements made by the honorable gentlemen. If we wish to inspire democracy and national moral, I think that the preamble deems proper. "
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Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:Ahmed Alef rises from a seat in the second row on the left side of the conference room.

"Mr. President," he says, "I would like to present the following draft of a preamble for debate and deliberation. My page will be distributing a copy of my draft to each member. It reads:

'This Constitution of the Republic of Elizia shall advance the cultural, social, political, and economic institutions of Elizian society based on our principles and norms, which represent an honest aspiration of the Elizian peoples. This aspiration, exemplified by the nature of the December Liberation and by the course of the Elizian people's struggle from our beginning until victory, reflects in the decisive and forceful calls raised by all segments of the populations. Now, at the threshold of this great liberation, our nation, with all its beings, seeks its fulfillment.'"


Alef takes his seat.

"I agree with this proposal, it sounds good." Thu Tran stated.
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Collatis wrote:Kevin Katdare stands immediately as the man finishes speaking, clearly infuriated, "The Elizian people are a good and democratic people. They are the people who, just a few months ago, successfully removed the oppressive regime that you were a part of, Mr. Hutapea. I hardly consider those who have slaughtered their own people to be Elizians. I hardly consider those who have committed massive human rights abuses to be Elizians. So no, Mr. Hutapea, we are not all Elizians here. I can hardly consider you to be a human being, much less an Elizian. Although I do agree with you on one thing. We must stand up to the agents who have run our country. But it is not the United Nations or any foreigner who we must fear influence from. It is the agents of oppression. The agents of hate. The agents of ethnic cleansing. That's right, Mr. Hutapea, you and your party. So, in that spirit, do not blame me for disregarding anything that comes out of your foul mouth."

"Hear, hear!" shouts Adonis Hadiningrat. "I think it is completely baffling that we are giving these people, who got away with oppressing our fellow Elizians, the time of day! If anything, these people should be brought to justice – the sooner, the better. Our nation cannot reconcile until the horrors of our past are acknowledged and those responsible for them are punished!"

"Should it be tolerated that the very men and women who wish to lead Elizia from its troubled past also have the audacity to mock those who bravely served the country beforehand?" Linanto Aiguo shouts as he bursts into the room, donning his old ENC uniform. "Who here is so bold as to chain this country and its people to the past, and burden future generations with everlasting guilt? I will not endure such ridicule!"
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Davincia wrote:"Should it be tolerated that the very men and women who wish to lead Elizia from its troubled past also have the audacity to mock those who bravely served the country beforehand?" Linanto Aiguo shouts as he bursts into the room, donning his old ENC uniform. "Who here is so bold as to chain this country and its people to the past, and burden future generations with everlasting guilt? I will not endure such ridicule!"

Kevin Katdare barely suppresses laughter at the senator's statement, "Bravely served? You must be joking, Mr. Aiguo. To serve a country means more than to just serve its government. You must also serve the people. All the people. That includes every single Indian, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Aboriginal in this great nation. But did the government serve them? No, they discriminated against them. They slaughtered them. They slaughtered them when they protested their rule. They slaughtered them because of their ethnic background. It was this so-called brave servitude that resulted in the death of half my family, and tens of thousands others like me. That is not servitude. It is oppression, and not what we want in a government that is attempting to move past the mistakes of the past."
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Davincia wrote:"Should it be tolerated that the very men and women who wish to lead Elizia from its troubled past also have the audacity to mock those who bravely served the country beforehand?" Linanto Aiguo shouts as he bursts into the room, donning his old ENC uniform. "Who here is so bold as to chain this country and its people to the past, and burden future generations with everlasting guilt? I will not endure such ridicule!"

Adonis Hadiningrat is visibly infuriated by the senator's statement. “Oh so do we all now consider the systematic oppression of our minorities perpetrated by the likes of you and everyone involved in your old party a BRAVE service for our country? It is you who are chaining this country to the past by allowing war criminals to go unpunished! Our nation desperately needs closure and the likes of you are depriving us of this.” Hadiningrat shouts.

“On the contrary, Mr. Aiguo, future generations will be bestowed with an invaluable lesson from our horrific past; a lesson that teaches them to be united as one Elizian nation, regardless of their ethnicities. A lesson that I hope will deter our future generations from ever going back to our old ways and serve as a constant reminder of how oppression and terror can NEVER be justified in Elizia.

And take off that bloody uniform, it is a disgrace to the very party that you are now considered a part of."
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Davincia wrote:"Should it be tolerated that the very men and women who wish to lead Elizia from its troubled past also have the audacity to mock those who bravely served the country beforehand?" Linanto Aiguo shouts as he bursts into the room, donning his old ENC uniform. "Who here is so bold as to chain this country and its people to the past, and burden future generations with everlasting guilt? I will not endure such ridicule!"

Kevin Katdare barely suppresses laughter at the senator's statement, "Bravely served? You must be joking, Mr. Aiguo. To serve a country means more than to just serve its government. You must also serve the people. All the people. That includes every single Indian, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Aboriginal in this great nation. But did the government serve them? No, they discriminated against them. They slaughtered them. They slaughtered them when they protested their rule. They slaughtered them because of their ethnic background. It was this so-called brave servitude that resulted in the death of half my family, and tens of thousands others like me. That is not servitude. It is oppression, and not what we want in a government that is attempting to move past the mistakes of the past."

"Say what you will about the nature of oppression, Mr. Katdare, but frankly I am glad that Elizia has maintained its independence during those trying times rather than become another puppet of the Soviets. Measures were taken to protect the country from the same scourge that infested China, Vietnam, and Cambodia, and it is clear today that those measures worked for the betterment of all."
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Collatis wrote:Kevin Katdare barely suppresses laughter at the senator's statement, "Bravely served? You must be joking, Mr. Aiguo. To serve a country means more than to just serve its government. You must also serve the people. All the people. That includes every single Indian, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Aboriginal in this great nation. But did the government serve them? No, they discriminated against them. They slaughtered them. They slaughtered them when they protested their rule. They slaughtered them because of their ethnic background. It was this so-called brave servitude that resulted in the death of half my family, and tens of thousands others like me. That is not servitude. It is oppression, and not what we want in a government that is attempting to move past the mistakes of the past."

"Say what you will about the nature of oppression, Mr. Katdare, but frankly I am glad that Elizia has maintained its independence during those trying times rather than become another puppet of the Soviets. Measures were taken to protect the country from the same scourge that infested China, Vietnam, and Cambodia, and it is clear today that those measures worked for the betterment of all."

"You mean a place where the government treated it's citizens terribly and didn't let us speak up about it?" Thu Tran asked.
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