NSG Senate Coffee Shop: Want Any Cream or Sugar with That?

[Red Party]

"This just a Republican way to make the best out of a Republic of Elizia, this is just an improvement on the wording of what the NIP proposed.


It won't work with the word "haram", because the fringe fundamentalists would deem haram to minorities and that would upset them and the minorities will be upset themselves, its like calling themselves "goyim" or "infidel", it would imply a negative connotation.

Keep in mind that the population is 51% Muslim and 49% minorities

"You might have confused the word 'haram' with 'kafir' which is equal in meaning to what you described as infidel. Haram is a label commonly used on products that do not meet the Islamic dietary law requirements — it is akin to the word Kosher and the concept of Kashrut in Judaism and thus, the term does not imply any negative connotation."

Thank you for explaining that. Would you like to sponsor the bill?

[Alistan]

"This just a Republican way to make the best out of a Republic of Elizia, this is just an improvement on the wording of what the NIP proposed.


It won't work with the word "haram", because the fringe fundamentalists would deem haram to minorities and that would upset them and the minorities will be upset themselves, its like calling themselves "goyim" or "infidel", it would imply a negative connotation.

Keep in mind that the population is 51% Muslim and 49% minorities

"You might have confused the word 'haram' with 'kafir' which is equal in meaning to what you described as infidel. Haram is a label commonly used on products that do not meet the Islamic dietary law requirements — it is akin to the word Kosher and the concept of Kashrut in Judaism and thus, the term does not imply any negative connotation."

"Of course, but the word "haram" can be turned into a negative connotation as food for "non-Muslim", its like designating non-Muslims as aliens or non-human, and in Elizia, I and Elizian citizens stand for religious plurality and democracy, and also, the simple fact is, the country 51% non-Muslim to 49% Muslim."

[Red Party]

"You might have confused the word 'haram' with 'kafir' which is equal in meaning to what you described as infidel. Haram is a label commonly used on products that do not meet the Islamic dietary law requirements — it is akin to the word Kosher and the concept of Kashrut in Judaism and thus, the term does not imply any negative connotation."

"Of course, but the word "haram" can be turned into a negative connotation as food for "non-Muslim", its like designating non-Muslims as aliens or non-human, and in Elizia, I and Elizian citizens stand for religious plurality and democracy, and also, the simple fact is, the country 51% non-Muslim to 49% Muslim."

Nowhere does it ever designate anyone as weird or an alien. We're simply labeling products. We're not putting any penalties, taxes, restrictions or anything of that kind on the listed products. Please educate yourself.

[Hindia Belanda]

"You might have confused the word 'haram' with 'kafir' which is equal in meaning to what you described as infidel. Haram is a label commonly used on products that do not meet the Islamic dietary law requirements — it is akin to the word Kosher and the concept of Kashrut in Judaism and thus, the term does not imply any negative connotation."

"Of course, but the word "haram" can be turned into a negative connotation as food for "non-Muslim", its like designating non-Muslims as aliens or non-human, and in Elizia, I and Elizian citizens stand for religious plurality and democracy, and also, the simple fact is, the country 51% non-Muslim to 49% Muslim."

"I too, like you, stand for religious plurality and the free exercise of religion by Elizians. While I do not support the bill whatsoever, I do not share your preconceived notion that the word can be turned into a negative connotation. It is a simple, inoffensive term used by Muslims to describe products that are forbidden to be consumed."

[Hindia Belanda]

"You might have confused the word 'haram' with 'kafir' which is equal in meaning to what you described as infidel. Haram is a label commonly used on products that do not meet the Islamic dietary law requirements — it is akin to the word Kosher and the concept of Kashrut in Judaism and thus, the term does not imply any negative connotation."

Thank you for explaining that. Would you like to sponsor the bill?

I cannot get behind this bill. I am, however, willing to support a bill which mandates products that meet the Islamic dietary laws sold in our country to be labelled with the word "Halal".

[Red Party]

Thank you for explaining that. Would you like to sponsor the bill?

I cannot get behind this bill. I am, however, willing to support a bill which mandates products that meet the Islamic dietary laws sold in our country to be labelled with the word "Halal".

I am willing to change that in the coming days.

[New Werpland]

*snip*

[Skyviolia]

Political Trilingualism Act 2016
Author: Senator Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)
Sponsors:

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An act to promote inclusiveness and mutual understanding among the many entities which collectively make up the whole of Elizia's politics.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Overview:
The Political Trilingualism Act requires: All legal registered political parties in Elizia must provide a rendition of their party's name in Chinese, English and Malay on their party logo, if the party's name is listed at all on their logo. If it isn't nothing is required of them by law.

§2 – Penalty For a Lack of Compliance:
The penalty for refusing to change or create a logo in the legal manner by party leadership will result in the annual fine equal to the equivalent of $1,000 USD which shall be taken directly from party funds.

I reduced the fine. Does anyone want to sponsor now?

Put my name on it, Michel Nugati (LD), but I'm not 100% sure I would support this act. I do think it is worth debating, so I'm going to help you out in putting it on the floor.

[Davincia]

Political Trilingualism Act 2016
Author: Senator Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)
Sponsors:

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An act to promote inclusiveness and mutual understanding among the many entities which collectively make up the whole of Elizia's politics.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Overview:
The Political Trilingualism Act requires: All legal registered political parties in Elizia must provide a rendition of their party's name in Chinese, English and Malay on their party logo, if the party's name is listed at all on their logo. If it isn't nothing is required of them by law.

§2 – Penalty For a Lack of Compliance:
The penalty for refusing to change or create a logo in the legal manner by party leadership will result in the annual fine equal to the equivalent of $1,000 USD which shall be taken directly from party funds.

I reduced the fine. Does anyone want to sponsor now?

Seems like a waste of time and resources, as well as proving to be heavily coercive and against the best interests of a democracy.

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors:

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

The draft/sketch of the bill should appease everyone who are criticizes the Islamist proposal to ban haram foods.

Have you read my bill? Nowhere does it ban ANYTHING.

I'll sponsor it. I may not be so kind to it in the debate hall, but I do want to see this bill end up there.

[New Werpland]

Political Trilingualism Act 2016
Author: Senator Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)
Sponsors:

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An act to promote inclusiveness and mutual understanding among the many entities which collectively make up the whole of Elizia's politics.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

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§1 – Overview:
The Political Trilingualism Act requires: All legal registered political parties in Elizia must provide a rendition of their party's name in Chinese, English and Malay on their party logo, if the party's name is listed at all on their logo. If it isn't nothing is required of them by law.

§2 – Penalty For a Lack of Compliance:
The penalty for refusing to change or create a logo in the legal manner by party leadership will result in the annual fine equal to the equivalent of $1,000 USD which shall be taken directly from party funds.

I reduced the fine. Does anyone want to sponsor now?

Put my name on it, Michel Nugati (LD), but I'm not 100% sure I would support this act. I do think it is worth debating, so I'm going to help you out in putting it on the floor.

Thank you senator!

[Alistan]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors:

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

The draft/sketch of the bill should appease everyone who are criticizes the Islamist proposal to ban haram foods.

Have you read my bill? Nowhere does it ban ANYTHING.

I'll sponsor it. I may not be so kind to it in the debate hall, but I do want to see this bill end up there.[/quote]

OOC: Are you sponsoring mine or the Red Party's bill?

[Alistan]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo, Liberal Democrats

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

One Senator sponsored my bill.[region-tag=][/region-tag]

[New Werpland]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo, Liberal Democrats

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

One Senator sponsored my bill.[region-tag=][/region-tag]

I sponsor.

[Alistan]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Another senator

[Skappola]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Another senator

Add me on as well. (Yohani Rudao)

[Skappola]

Financial Sovereignty Act
Author: Yohani Rapongan(Path to Harmony)
Sponsors: Yunus Moghadam (PtH), Greanihte (NWP), Emilia Larsen (NWP)

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An act to ensure the financial sovereignty of Elizia.

BBE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Definitions:
IMF - the International Monetary Fund.

§2 – The IMF
In protest of the unreasonable interest rates levied upon Elizia and the unequal representation in international financial votes, Elizia hereby withdraws from the IMF and all associated agencies.

1. All debt owed to the IMF and foreign nations through the IMF by Elizia is hereby declared null and void.
2. Any attempts to forcefully collect upon the aforementioned debt will be considered encroachment upon the Elizia's financial sovereignty, and dealt with at the behest of Elizia's parliament.

§3 – Non-IMF Debts

1. Government debt unrelated to the IMF shall still be repaid on time and in full.

§4 – Multilateral Development Banks
In replacement of the imperialistic IMF, Elizia hereby requests membership in the following organizations.

1. The International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the International Development Association, the International Fund for Agricultural Development, the Islamic Development Bank, and the Asian Development Bank

Any sponsors or suggestions?

[The Grene Knyght]

Political Trilingualism Act 2016
Author: Senator Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)
Sponsors:

---

---

An act to promote inclusiveness and mutual understanding among the many entities which collectively make up the whole of Elizia's politics.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

---

§1 – Overview:
The Political Trilingualism Act requires: All legal registered political parties in Elizia must provide a rendition of their party's name in Chinese, English and Malay on their party logo, if the party's name is listed at all on their logo. If it isn't nothing is required of them by law.

§2 – Penalty For a Lack of Compliance:
The penalty for refusing to change or create a logo in the legal manner by party leadership will result in the annual fine equal to the equivalent of $1,000 USD which shall be taken directly from party funds.

I reduced the fine. Does anyone want to sponsor now?

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU)

---

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

---

§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Another senator

Add me on as well. (Yohani Rudao)

Financial Sovereignty Act
Author: Yohani Rapongan(Path to Harmony)
Sponsors: Yunus Moghadam (PtH)

---

---

An act to ensure the financial sovereignty of Elizia.

BBE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

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§1 – Definitions:
IMF - the International Monetary Fund.

§2 – The IMF
In protest of the unreasonable interest rates levied upon Elizia and the unequal representation in international financial votes, Elizia hereby withdraws from the IMF and all associated agencies.

1. All debt owed to the IMF and foreign nations through the IMF by Elizia is hereby declared null and void.
2. Any attempts to forcefully collect upon the aforementioned debt will be considered encroachment upon the Elizia's financial sovereignty, and dealt with at the behest of Elizia's parliament.

§3 – Non-IMF Debts

1. Government debt unrelated to the IMF shall still be repaid on time and in full.

§4 – Multilateral Development Banks
In replacement of the imperialistic IMF, Elizia hereby requests membership in the following organizations.

1. The International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the International Development Association, the International Fund for Agricultural Development, the Islamic Development Bank, and the Asian Development Bank

Any sponsors or suggestions?

Senator Greanihte of the NWP sponsors these three bills.

[Alistan]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU), Yuhani Rudaon (Path to Harmony), Greanhite (NWP)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Three more Senators sponsored my bill.

[Hindia Belanda]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU), Yuhani Rudaon (Path to Harmony), Greanhite (NWP)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Three more Senators sponsored my bill.

I'll sponsor this bill (Adonis Hadiningrat, LD)

[Skyviolia]

Just want to give everyone a heads up on the proposal for the basic principles of Elizia that I will be submitting tomorrow -

SECTION I - The Sovereignty of Elizia

1. Elizia shall be a free and sovereign nation. It shall be answerable to its own laws, and the laws by which Elizia chooses to assert itself with. Elizia shall be responsible for asserting its boundaries, selecting its laws, and formulating its foreign policy. No authority may deny the sovereignty of Elizia.

SECTION II - Principles of Elizian Democracy

1. Elizia shall be governed under a system of a republican democracy, whereby a government shall serve the people and only the people.
2. Elizia shall govern itself under a system of transparency. All officials shall be answerable to the people, and shall be subject to their confidence and public trust.
3. The President of Elizia shall be the official head of state, the Prime Minister shall be head of government. The Parliament shall be the sole legislative body and the Supreme Court shall be the highest court in the land.


SECTION III - Capital, Flag and other symbols

1. Kentang shall be the official seat of the government, and shall host the major government institutions of the nation.
2. The flag of the Republic shall consist of a blue stripe representing heaven, a red stripe to represent the Malay peoples and a yellow stripe to represent the Oriental peoples of Elizia.
3. Other symbols of the Republic shall be determined by the Parliament.

[Alistan]

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National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU), Yuhani Rudaon (Path to Harmony), Greanhite (NWP), Adonis Hadiningrat (Lib-Dem)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

---

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

I believe five senators endorsed my bill, so I believe that this bill should go to debate.

[Red Party]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU), Yuhani Rudaon (Path to Harmony), Greanhite (NWP)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Three more Senators sponsored my bill.

Sponsor. Thomas Chouman (NIP). Can I be co-Author as it is just a elaboration of my bill? Thanks in advance!

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

Senator Beluluk enters, glass in hand.

tag

[Alistan]

National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony and Thomas Chamoun, National Islamic Party
Sponsors: Linanto Auguo (Lib-Dem), Hiba binti Kamaaluddeen (SU), Yuhani Rudaon (Path to Harmony), Greanhite (NWP)

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An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including

1. Raw materials
2. Processing Aid Ingredients
3. Processing
4. Sanitation chemicals
5. Packaging

Any last minute changes in the bill, before this enters into debate in 12 hours?

[Maklohi Vai]

I'll sponsor the Political Trilingualism bill. I'd like to see it debated.