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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:19 am
by Glasgia
Malgrave wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
Ta mal, not sure if I'll hang around yet but we'll see


You should definitely stick around. We need as many people as possible. :)


Eh, might do. Depends on how quickly the grand socialist revolution comes around :p

Nariterrr wrote:
The Sarian wrote:cute

You know you called not only me but my party members unintelligent and you know you did it deliberately. I will not redact the motion until you apologise and redact your threats.


He called your voters stupid, not yourself. That took about a minute for me to read through and understand. Motions are there to keep order, not to abuse because you don't like the way people speak to you.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:20 am
by Nariterrr
Glasgia wrote:
Malgrave wrote:
You should definitely stick around. We need as many people as possible. :)


Eh, might do. Depends on how quickly the grand socialist revolution comes around :p

Nariterrr wrote:You know you called not only me but my party members unintelligent and you know you did it deliberately. I will not redact the motion until you apologise and redact your threats.


He called your voters stupid, not yourself. That took about a minute for me to read through and understand. Motions are there to keep order, not to abuse because you don't like the way people speak to you.

No, it clearly wasn't. He called me and my party members stupid.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:26 am
by Glasgia
He made two comments. The first stated that the party members, as a collective, lack intelligence. That is not a direct insult against you. The second insinuated that the party's voters lack intelligence. That is not a direct insult against you.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:28 am
by Nariterrr
Glasgia wrote:He made two comments. The first stated that the party members, as a collective, lack intelligence. That is not a direct insult against you. The second insinuated that the party's voters lack intelligence. That is not a direct insult against you.

An attack on the intelligence of party members is an attack on everyone in the party, including myself. He also made wild and untrue claims which disrupted debate.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:32 am
by Glasgia
No, it's attack on your collective intelligence not an any individual. That's not semantics, that's fact. Don't you think it's rather ironic that you're claiming Sarian disrupted debate given the speaker specifically stated that your actions, calling to censure the senator, were distracting from the debate at hand?

Christ haven't I missed this...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:34 am
by Nariterrr
Glasgia wrote:No, it's attack on your collective intelligence not an any individual. That's not semantics, that's fact. Don't you think it's rather ironic that you're claiming Sarian disrupted debate given the speaker specifically stated that your actions, calling to censure the senator, were distracting from the debate at hand?

Christ haven't I missed this...

An attack on our collective intelligence is an attack on the intelligence of our party members thus the individuals.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:39 am
by Glasgia
It's pretty simple, it's an attack on your collective intelligence. As a whole. Sarian did not state that you are all individually stupid, only that as a whole you lack intelligence. He did no more than suggest that the average intelligence of SLP members is lacking. This isn't really debatable.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:40 am
by Glasgia
On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:40 am
by Nariterrr
Glasgia wrote:It's pretty simple, it's an attack on your collective intelligence. As a whole. Sarian did not state that you are all individually stupid, only that as a whole you lack intelligence. He did no more than suggest that the average intelligence of SLP members is lacking. This isn't really debatable.

That is an attack on the members of the party. If I called the Chinese Intrest Parties membership dumb, would your 'logic' still apply.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:42 am
by Ikania
I'm currently on vacation, floating around the reach of Eastern Canada. I trust my party can get along until I'm home in a week and ready to get super active.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:42 am
by Malgrave
Glasgia wrote:On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?


check the database.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:42 am
by Glasgia
Nariterrr wrote:
Glasgia wrote:It's pretty simple, it's an attack on your collective intelligence. As a whole. Sarian did not state that you are all individually stupid, only that as a whole you lack intelligence. He did no more than suggest that the average intelligence of SLP members is lacking. This isn't really debatable.

That is an attack on the members of the party. If I called the Chinese Intrest Parties membership dumb, would your 'logic' still apply.


Yes, my logic would still apply. Your point being?

Malgrave wrote:
Glasgia wrote:On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?


check the database.


But I'm feeling lazy..... Fine. :p

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:43 am
by Arkolon
Glasgia wrote:On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?

I keep track of it, posting data in the Yellow Pages.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:44 am
by Glasgia
Arkolon wrote:
Glasgia wrote:On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?

I keep track of it, posting data in the Yellow Pages.


I'll go take a look, thanks.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:46 am
by United Provinces of Atlantica
Glasgia wrote:On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?

I think they're basically the Malaysian Aboriginals. Anyways, my Senator and Skappola's Senator are both fully aboriginal, and The Grene Knyght's Senator is half-aboriginal and half-Indian but considers herself an aboriginal.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:56 am
by Glasgia
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Glasgia wrote:On a less argumentative note, how many senators are there representing the aboriginal population? Have we made up much information about that ~7% of Elizia yet?

I think they're basically the Malaysian Aboriginals. Anyways, my Senator and Skappola's Senator are both fully aboriginal, and The Grene Knyght's Senator is half-aboriginal and half-Indian but considers herself an aboriginal.


Ah right, will skim through those then. Just trying to get a grasp of what we're basing off.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:49 pm
by The Sarian
Nariterrr wrote:
The Sarian wrote:"Mr Speaker, if you permit I would like to read directly from Parliamentary records from what I said earlier today:

Mr Speaker, what international clout does the bill's writer believe we possess? Negotiate with China to present the Elizian opinion! What is this madness, Mr Speaker? Honestly! Mr Speaker, this is misleading Parliament to such an extent that I am of half a mind to motion for the member to be held in contempt! Let me make it clear to this house, as a former ranking member of the Chinese Diplomatic Service, that any delegation of Elizians - a country that does not yet even recognize the People's Republic of China - who came to China in an attempt to negotiate on the South China Sea would be laughed away. Mr Speaker, who the hell does he think we are? "

That claim is outlandish, the majority of the democratic community, our neighbors are on our side. We can negotiate the same way the Phillipines and China/Vietnam and China do."

I'm taking this OOC because this is clearly an OOC understanding, Nariterrr - read the Elizia proposal and realise why we aren't the Philippines.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:51 pm
by Belmaria
The Sarian wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:That claim is outlandish, the majority of the democratic community, our neighbors are on our side. We can negotiate the same way the Phillipines and China/Vietnam and China do."

I'm taking this OOC because this is clearly an OOC understanding, Nariterrr - read the Elizia proposal and realise why we aren't the Philippines.

Or you could just tell him what you want him to know instead of forcing him to waste his time reading the entire proposal.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:57 pm
by Maklohi Vai
Belmaria wrote:
The Sarian wrote:I'm taking this OOC because this is clearly an OOC understanding, Nariterrr - read the Elizia proposal and realise why we aren't the Philippines.

Or you could just tell him what you want him to know instead of forcing him to waste his time reading the entire proposal.

I think it's hardly a waste of time to read the background of the country you're bloody RPing for multiple hours a day.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:59 pm
by The Sarian
Belmaria wrote:
The Sarian wrote:I'm taking this OOC because this is clearly an OOC understanding, Nariterrr - read the Elizia proposal and realise why we aren't the Philippines.

Or you could just tell him what you want him to know instead of forcing him to waste his time reading the entire proposal.

I'd start with economy, history and foreign affairs + defence for the debate argument we're currently having in the Chamber.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:01 pm
by Belmaria
Maklohi Vai wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Or you could just tell him what you want him to know instead of forcing him to waste his time reading the entire proposal.

I think it's hardly a waste of time to read the background of the country you're bloody RPing for multiple hours a day.

I have a profession, and don't have the devotion to online games that you do, apparently.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:09 pm
by The Sarian
Belmaria wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:I think it's hardly a waste of time to read the background of the country you're bloody RPing for multiple hours a day.

I have a profession, and don't have the devotion to online games that you do, apparently.

Where do you get all that time to write your lists from?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:10 pm
by Maklohi Vai
Belmaria wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:I think it's hardly a waste of time to read the background of the country you're bloody RPing for multiple hours a day.

I have a profession, and don't have the devotion to online games that you do, apparently.

I've made a commitment to this RP as Head Admin. It requires multiple hours a day, at varying degrees of intensity, if I want to do the job as I think it should be done. I've been doing it for three years. So yes, devotion is a good word to use.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:10 pm
by Arkolon
The Sarian wrote:
Belmaria wrote:I have a profession, and don't have the devotion to online games that you do, apparently.

Where do you get all that time to write your lists from?

dead

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:15 pm
by Malgrave
so has anyone created a version of the Iron Gave yet? I think my senator needs a drink or two.