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Postby Arkolon » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:08 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (atomised):
13.258%

Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (coalitions):
27.027%

This parliament is too divided to go in any direction. The minimum HHI for a majority is 25%.

In English?

A score of 100% defines a monopoly situation. A score of 0%, however impossible, defines pure and perfect competition. Scores of 10% or lower are very competitive, 10-20% moderately competitive, and above 20% to be highly concentrated (US DOJ). It's a measure of the concentration of power.
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Postby Britanno 2 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:28 am

Arkolon wrote:A score of 100% defines a monopoly situation. A score of 0%, however impossible, defines pure and perfect competition. Scores of 10% or lower are very competitive, 10-20% moderately competitive, and above 20% to be highly concentrated (US DOJ). It's a measure of the concentration of power.

Ah ok. So looks like we're going for the Spanish and Belgian route then.

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Britanno 2 wrote:
Arkolon wrote:A score of 100% defines a monopoly situation. A score of 0%, however impossible, defines pure and perfect competition. Scores of 10% or lower are very competitive, 10-20% moderately competitive, and above 20% to be highly concentrated (US DOJ). It's a measure of the concentration of power.

Ah ok. So looks like we're going for the Spanish and Belgian route then.

We don't have a king, but we also don't have a stable government. Hmm.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:13 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Britanno 2 wrote:Ah ok. So looks like we're going for the Spanish and Belgian route then.

We don't have a king, but we also don't have a stable government. Hmm.

So the Somalian route.
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Postby The Sarian » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:31 pm

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The Sarian wrote:OOC: Seriously, stop oppressing opposition to your government. You will regret it.

I find Belmaria making an OOC note saying I would "regret" actions made in an IC situation to be potentially threatening - especially given the recent doxing incident.
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Postby Belmaria » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:33 pm

The Sarian wrote:
Belmaria wrote:

I find Belmaria making an OOC note saying I would "regret" actions made in an IC situation to be potentially threatening - especially given the recent doxing incident.

Are you serious? I was referring to the reaction of the electorate to oppressive government after years of oppression. First you try to derail opposition to your government IC, then take something out of context in the most obvious way OOC. Nothing has changed about this place.
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Postby The Sarian » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:34 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Sarian wrote: I find Belmaria making an OOC note saying I would "regret" actions made in an IC situation to be potentially threatening - especially given the recent doxing incident.

Are you serious? I was referring to the reaction of the electorate to oppressive government after years of oppression.

Then why make it OOC?
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Postby Belmaria » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:36 pm

The Sarian wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Are you serious? I was referring to the reaction of the electorate to oppressive government after years of oppression.

Then why make it OOC?

Because I didn't want my comments to be included in the RP.
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Postby Ainin » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:38 pm

This is probably a bad time, but can someone explain the meaning of this thread's title? Im about to go to sleep so im afraid ill forget this question tmr
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Postby Arkolon » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:40 pm

Ainin wrote:This is probably a bad time, but can someone explain the meaning of this thread's title? Im about to go to sleep so im afraid ill forget this question tmr

A scimitar (/ˈsɪmᵻtər/ or /ˈsɪmᵻtɑːr/)[1] is a backsword or sabre with a curved blade, originating in the Middle East. The curved sword or "scimitar" was widespread throughout the Middle East from at least the Ottoman period, with early examples dating to Abbasid era (9th century) Khurasan.[2][verification needed] The type harks back to the makhaira type of antiquity, but the Arabic term saif is probably from the same source as Greek xiphos (the straight, double-edged sword of Greek antiquity). The Persian sword now called "shamshir" appears by the 12th century and was popularized in Persia by the early 16th century, and had "relatives" in Turkey (the kilij), and the Mughal Empire (the talwar). The name is thought to be derived from the Persian word shamshēr which literally means “paw claw,” due to its long, curved design. The word has been translated through many languages to end at scimitar. In the Early Middle Ages, the Turkic people of Central Asia came into contact with Middle Eastern civilizations through their shared Islamic faith. Turkic Ghilman slave-soldiers serving under the Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates introduced "kilij" type sabers to all of the other Middle Eastern cultures. Previously, Arabs and Persians used straight-bladed swords such as the earlier types of the Arab saif, takoba and kaskara. During Islamization of the Turks, the kilij became more and more popular in the İslamic armies. When the Seljuk Empire invaded Persia and became the first Turkic Muslim political power in Western Asia, kilij became the dominant sword form. The Iranian shamshir was created during the Turkic Seljuk Empire period of Iran. The term saif in Arabic can refer to any Middle Eastern (or North African, South Asian) curved sword. The Arabic word might be derived from the ancient Greek xiphos, but not necessarily as it may have entered Arabic from another source, as both saif and xiphos go back to an old (Bronze Age) Wanderwort of the eastern Mediterranean, of unknown ultimate origin. Richard F. Burton derives both words from the Egyptian sfet.[3] The English term scimitar is attested from the mid-16th century, derives from either the Middle French cimeterre (15th century) or from the Italian scimitarra. The ultimate source of these terms is unknown. Perhaps they are corruptions of the Persian shamshir, but the OED finds this explanation "unsatisfactory". The following are regional terms for the scimitar: Shamshir (Iran), Kilij (Turkey and Egypt), Nimcha (Morocco), Pulwar (Afghanistan), Talwar (North India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), Kirpaan (Punjab, North Western India), Shotel (Horn of Africa, primarily Ethiopia and Eritrea).
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:22 pm

Ainin wrote:This is probably a bad time, but can someone explain the meaning of this thread's title? Im about to go to sleep so im afraid ill forget this question tmr

I made the title. It's a Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0
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Postby Tumbra » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:56 pm

Christ above people. I thought we were going to be above this nonsense ever since Bel managed to explode himself in the Chamber.

Honestly, Zurk and I have been trying to deal with your shit and it's not very funny.

And by your, I mean the SLP's. Goodness knows how many times they, and ALDE, have disrupted Chamber proceedings.
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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:09 pm

Tumbra wrote:Christ above people. I thought we were going to be above this nonsense ever since Bel managed to explode himself in the Chamber.

Honestly, Zurk and I have been trying to deal with your shit and it's not very funny.

And by your, I mean the SLP's. Goodness knows how many times they, and ALDE, have disrupted Chamber proceedings.

Belmaria is our Party Chairman, he is responsible for internal affairs and is not our parties representative.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Tumbra » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:28 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Tumbra wrote:Christ above people. I thought we were going to be above this nonsense ever since Bel managed to explode himself in the Chamber.

Honestly, Zurk and I have been trying to deal with your shit and it's not very funny.

And by your, I mean the SLP's. Goodness knows how many times they, and ALDE, have disrupted Chamber proceedings.

Belmaria is our Party Chairman, he is responsible for internal affairs and is not our parties representative.


And if you're the Party Leader, maybe you should tke control of your party.
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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:30 pm

Tumbra wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:Belmaria is our Party Chairman, he is responsible for internal affairs and is not our parties representative.


And if you're the Party Leader, maybe you should tke control of your party.

That's not how it works, we operate under a democratic system. The Queen can't just take power from the Prime Minister.
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Postby Tumbra » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:34 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Tumbra wrote:
And if you're the Party Leader, maybe you should tke control of your party.

That's not how it works, we operate under a democratic system. The Queen can't just take power from the Prime Minister.


I meant in terms of behaviour in the Chamber.
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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:36 pm

Tumbra wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:That's not how it works, we operate under a democratic system. The Queen can't just take power from the Prime Minister.


I meant in terms of behaviour in the Chamber.

I will talk to him about it.
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Postby Arkolon » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:09 am

Exports: palm oil, textiles, rubber, and rice.
Imports: steel, Brent crude, plastic, and machinery*.

*Machinery will have a fixed price as to render the t=0 balance of trade equal.

Each import/export accounts for 25% of the total imports/exports at t=0. I set each to be worth $2.5bn in value. Some data about the country, therefore:

- We export 4.37 million metric tons of palm oil annually.
- We export 250.87 million kilogrammes of wool annually.
- We export 2.84 billion kilogrammes of rubber annually.
- We export 5.99 million metric tons of rice annually.
- We import 8.33 million tonnes of steel annually.
- We import 54.72 million bbls of Brent crude annually.
- We import 1.17 billion kilogrammes of plastic annually.
- We import 500,000 pieces of machinery of fixed value of $5,000 every year.

Exports = Imports = $10 billion. Too high, too low? Any issues?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:27 am

Arkolon wrote:Exports: palm oil, textiles, rubber, and rice.
Imports: steel, Brent crude, plastic, and machinery*.

*Machinery will have a fixed price as to render the t=0 balance of trade equal.

Each import/export accounts for 25% of the total imports/exports at t=0. I set each to be worth $2.5bn in value. Some data about the country, therefore:

- We export 4.37 million metric tons of palm oil annually.
- We export 250.87 million kilogrammes of wool annually.
- We export 2.84 billion kilogrammes of rubber annually.
- We export 5.99 million metric tons of rice annually.
- We import 8.33 million tonnes of steel annually.
- We import 54.72 million bbls of Brent crude annually.
- We import 1.17 billion kilogrammes of plastic annually.
- We import 500,000 pieces of machinery of fixed value of $5,000 every year.

Exports = Imports = $10 billion. Too high, too low? Any issues?

I'm no expert on... any of this, but it seems logical.
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Postby Glasgia » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:00 pm

Right, someone fill me in on what's been happening for the past few months and why the fuck I wasn't invited.

EDIT: On a slightly less aggressive note: Hey, how's everyone doing? Anyone mind getting me up to date on what I've missed? Much of the old guard still around?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:05 pm

Glasgia wrote:Right, someone fill me in on what's been happening for the past few months and why the fuck I wasn't invited.

Welcome back, first of all! We've gone to Southeast Asia. Our country is called Elizia. We officially started less than a month ago. And you weren't active (did you CTE?), so nobody reached out I think.
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:06 pm

Glasgia wrote:Right, someone fill me in on what's been happening for the past few months and why the fuck I wasn't invited.

Brexit happened.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:07 pm

Glasgia wrote:Right, someone fill me in on what's been happening for the past few months and why the fuck I wasn't invited.

EDIT: On a slightly less aggressive note: Hey, how's everyone doing? Anyone mind getting me up to date on what I've missed? Much of the old guard still around?

That reminds me that I should probably reach out to some veterans that haven't come back. You were on the list. :p

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Postby House of Judah » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:08 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Right, someone fill me in on what's been happening for the past few months and why the fuck I wasn't invited.

Welcome back, first of all! We've gone to Southeast Asia. Our country is called Elizia. We officially started less than a month ago. And you weren't active (did you CTE?), so nobody reached out I think.

Also, NWO is persona non grata.

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