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Postby The Licentian Isles » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:05 pm

Skappola wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:While all this bickering is fun, let me take a moment to remind people that it doesn't bloody matter.

I mean, it kind of does if people were just leaving because of the NIP.


That wasn't the only reason. Personally, I wasn't comfortable being part of a coalition with social conservatives, which is why I voted to leave the coalition. Sure, the NIP were a part of it, but they weren't the only reason.
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Postby Skappola » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:13 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:
Skappola wrote:I mean, it kind of does if people were just leaving because of the NIP.


That wasn't the only reason. Personally, I wasn't comfortable being part of a coalition with social conservatives, which is why I voted to leave the coalition. Sure, the NIP were a part of it, but they weren't the only reason.

What do you define as social conservatism, though? All of the things Maklohi Vai cited as social liberalism we agree with.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:45 pm

Skappola wrote:
The Licentian Isles wrote:
That wasn't the only reason. Personally, I wasn't comfortable being part of a coalition with social conservatives, which is why I voted to leave the coalition. Sure, the NIP were a part of it, but they weren't the only reason.

What do you define as social conservatism, though? All of the things Maklohi Vai cited as social liberalism we agree with.

You may, yes. The PtH's social platform (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=381743) is very similar to ours, no doubt, except for the religious tones (some of which, ICly, would make my Jewish senator uncomfortable, but that's another matter). It's the closest to Labour's, as Elizia First is very straightforwardly socially conservative: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=381858. The CIP doesn't really have a social policy, so I'll refrain from commenting on that.
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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:57 pm

What is the word for Elizia in Chinese?
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Postby Collatis » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:02 pm

Nariterrr wrote:What is the word for Elizia in Chinese?

绿湾

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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:13 am

Bill Depository is up. Please use it (just not yet)

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:07 pm

Bill Depository is now open! Please post all bills there which have a sufficient number of sponsors.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:28 am

First draft of a map of Elizia. Ignore all the Baltimores, they're placeholders.
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Postby Arkolon » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:16 am

Ainin wrote:First draft of a map of Elizia. Ignore all the Baltimores, they're placeholders.

I propose to keep at least one, in the form of Bal Timor.
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Postby Eol Sha » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:42 pm

Ainin wrote:First draft of a map of Elizia. Ignore all the Baltimores, they're placeholders.

Thank you. I needed a map. :)

I think you should include one of those distance things included on most maps.
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Postby Collatis » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:24 pm

Ainin wrote:First draft of a map of Elizia. Ignore all the Baltimores, they're placeholders.

Excellent. Is anyone up for creating a constituency thread?

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:03 pm

Arkolon wrote:
Ainin wrote:First draft of a map of Elizia. Ignore all the Baltimores, they're placeholders.

I propose to keep at least one, in the form of Bal Timor.

Great name. :lol:
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Postby Collatis » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:09 pm

Is it sad that the debate over the Time Zone Bill is still more exciting than Dagmar?

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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:17 am

What's up with the IRC chat? It says that I "need to be identified with services".
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:23 am

Costa Fierro wrote:What's up with the IRC chat? It says that I "need to be identified with services".

That sounds like it's on +i, meaning that you have to be registered to join. Let me go check it out, but because I'm not an OP I doubt I'll be able to fix it.

EDIT: After checking it out, +i is invite only. There doesn't appear to even be a flag established for only letting registered users on the channel. I can't check the flags of the channel, as I'm not OP'd. Conclusion: I don't bloody know. In the meantime, try #NSGSenate (no underscore).
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Postby Arkolon » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:57 am

Costa Fierro wrote:What's up with the IRC chat? It says that I "need to be identified with services".

That's +r, getting rid of it would be an OP setting the channel to /mode #nsg_senate -r
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:55 pm

Diagram for this week.
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Workers Party—8
Labour Party—5
Path to Harmony—12
Elizia First—10
National Islamic Party—3
ENC—3
Social Liberals-5
Chinese Interests—6
Liberal Democrats—17
Federalists—5



The last one.
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Postby Belmaria » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:04 pm

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Postby Tumbra » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:59 am

Merizoc wrote:Diagram for this week.
(Image)

Workers Party—8
Labour Party—5
Path to Harmony—12
Elizia First—10
National Islamic Party—3
ENC—3
Social Liberals-5
Chinese Interests—6
Liberal Democrats—17
Federalists—5



The last one.


This would give us...

Government Majority

Liberal Democrats - 17
Chinese Interests Party - 6
Federalist - 5

Total Government: 28

Official Opposition

Path to Harmony - 12
Elizia First - 10

Total Official Oppositon: 22

Other Parties

Labour Party - 5
Workers’ Party - 8

Total in Coalition: 13

Social Liberal Party - 5
National Islamic Party - 3
Elizian National Congress - 3
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Postby Arkolon » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:16 am

Merizoc wrote:Diagram for this week.
(Image)

Workers Party—8
Labour Party—5
Path to Harmony—12
Elizia First—10
National Islamic Party—3
ENC—3
Social Liberals-5
Chinese Interests—6
Liberal Democrats—17
Federalists—5



The last one.

Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (atomised):
13.258%

Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (coalitions):
27.027%

This parliament is too divided to go in any direction. The minimum HHI for a majority is 25%.
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Postby Britanno 2 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:48 am

Arkolon wrote:Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (atomised):
13.258%

Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (coalitions):
27.027%

This parliament is too divided to go in any direction. The minimum HHI for a majority is 25%.

In English?
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:31 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (atomised):
13.258%

Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (coalitions):
27.027%

This parliament is too divided to go in any direction. The minimum HHI for a majority is 25%.

In English?

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