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by Ikania » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:19 pm

by Costa Fierro » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:55 pm
Merizoc wrote:It's worth noting Elizia was more or less a failure....

by Britanno 3 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:03 am
Merizoc wrote:It's worth noting Elizia was more or less a failure....


by Collatis » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:09 pm
The Sarian wrote:yeah but no-one enjoyed themselves
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by FreYhill » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:39 pm
Resolved:
THAT The NSS finds admin Merizoc abusing his powers.
THAT The NSS finds that admin Merizoc punished a member of the NSS for an action that Merizoc has committed.
THAT The NSS notes that there are no rules pinned to the IRC Topic.
THAT The NSS has no confidence in admin Merizoc.

by Tectonix » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:48 pm

by FreYhill » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:52 pm
Tectonix wrote:
if you're going to go this far, why not resolve to kick Merizoc out if that's what you are seemingly intending to do?

by Tectonix » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:54 pm

by United Provinces of Atlantica » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:19 pm
Freyhill wrote:THAT The NSS notes that there are no rules pinned to the IRC Topic.

by The New World Oceania » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:48 pm


by Socialist Nordia » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:50 pm

by Costa Fierro » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:58 pm

by Tectonix » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:01 pm

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by Partido Liberal Constitucional » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:10 pm

by Soviet Canuckistan » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:11 pm

by FreYhill » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:21 pm
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
As Channel Owner, let me clear up a couple points,
The IRC Channel is an unofficial channel for the senate, the admins just happen to admin both based on the fact that if they admin here, they're generally good enough to admin the channel.
There are no rules pinned so that people can't use mods as weapons and mods can't just ban people they don't like, the general rule is just not to be a dick and bans are decided on a case-by-case basis

by Ikania » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:24 pm

by FreYhill » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:29 pm
Ikania wrote:If Merizoc really did put out Lykens' personal info (without his consent), then it would be completely hypocritical to try and keep Freyhill out of the IRC for doing exactly what you did.
And don't give me shit about how it wasn't "technically illegal" at the time or that rules don't apply retroactively- not being a dick is a universal, inarguable law, and you cross every line when you dox someone against their will. It's only fitting, then, that if someone is to be banned from the IRC for doxxing, it should be either Merizoc and Freyhill both, or we should absolve both and proclaim forgiveness and set a new precedent of complete intolerance of future incidents- period.
Also, there seems to be evidence to suggest "ban evasion" was just rejoining the IRC server after being kicked, not realizing he was banned.
I don't actually want to see Merizoc removed from the IRC or as an admin, but if we're going to give that treatment to Frey, it would be wrong not to give it to him as well. No? If Freyhill is willing to admit that his actions were wrong, then I would move to forgive him and let him back in- with a stern warning to everyone for any and all future incidents.


by Ikania » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:52 pm

by Lykens » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:07 pm
The New World Oceania wrote:I suggest a Franco-Gaelic country off the coast of Canada. It'd have about 42% French, 42% Irish Gaelic, 14% Native, 4% other, with most people practicing Catholicism. South of Newfoundland, East of Nova Scotia, its history would be something like:
-Originally inhabited by Native Americans, Leif Eriksson decides to take a holiday here in 1000. Leif Eriksson Day is a major holiday comparable to Christmas
-French decide to build some towns and colonies here.
-French are forced to cede the colony after the Seven Years’ War. The British proceed to encourage Scottish and Irish settlement on the island to weaken the French establishment and French influence.
-In the 1840s and 1850s many Irish settle the island, fleeing from the Potato Famine. Because of an already-substantial Irish minority they aren’t forced to learn English. Gaels increase to roughly half of the population and Irish starts to win out over Scottish Gaelic.
-The islanders decide to remain independent (like Newfoundland) and not join Confederation due to a very different culture from the mainland.
-The United States attempts to invade during the War of 1812.
-Tensions between the French and the Irish cause a constitutional convention.
Thoughts?
Ikania wrote:The biggest issue, I think, is the notion of a peaceful transition to independence, the pre-existence of dominant western institutions and the prosperity level of your average Canadian province. We have nothing to start with. No roads in need of repair, no political instability, no rampant poverty or tensions. Just your average rivalry between two groups of Celtic white people. And obviously, it wouldn't be able to be independent in the wake of 1812- the British would subjugate the shit out of that colony if it was worth taking in the first place.
In Calaverde, we had problems to fix- a rebel coalition had just kicked out a military dictatorship. Problems abound, like infrastructure repair and the economy. In Elizia, a domineering single party state ceded control to democrats
Sponsor: Lykens
Cosponsors: Freyhill
Resolved: The next iteration of NSS shall begin to be constructed by resolution process on January 5, 2017

by FreYhill » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:08 pm
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