[NSG Senate] Lobby-ing a Scimitar

[Eredion]

We should be in Australasia.

You mean that place one Earth where nothing ever happens.

[The Sarian]

We should be in Australasia.

You mean that place one Earth where nothing ever happens.

um have you ever heard of the wests greatest embarrassment? That involved Australasia...

[Great Nepal]

We should be in Australasia.

And that is how armies of kangaroo and giant scorpions ambushed the senate, taking Freyhill captive.

[FreYhill]

We should be in Australasia.

You mean that place one Earth where nothing ever happens.

um m8, have you been to my homeland?


**plays I come from the land down under**

We should be in Australasia.

And that is how armies of kangaroo and giant scorpions ambushed the senate, taking Freyhill captive.

kek

[Costa Fierro]

I smell a reboot...

[Eredion]

You mean that place one Earth where nothing ever happens.

um m8, have you been to my homeland?


**plays I come from the land down under**

And that is how armies of kangaroo and giant scorpions ambushed the senate, taking Freyhill captive.

kek

What interesting political decisions are made there? You and your upside down maps.

Elizia also was there or at least really close to it.

[Ainin]

um m8, have you been to my homeland?


**plays I come from the land down under**



kek

What interesting political decisions are made there? You and your upside down maps.

Elizia also was there or at least really close to it.

In the same sense that Northern Europe is really close to the Middle East.

[The New World Oceania]

I don't agree with freyhill on much, but I do think a Pacific island would be a great setting if we don't do Africa.

Regarding Africa, a brief defense: an absolutely impoverished nation would be a great setting. With better admin involvement on terms of events and consequences, we can take the question of, what if NS ran a nation? and instead ask, what is NS tried to save a nation?

[Great Nepal]

Hmmm I'm not sure on impoverished nation tbh; economic modeling is going to be long and I doubt that will happen with significant unanimity or regularity so we prolly end up either massively restricting rp or completely ignoring that part of the setting...

[Roosevetania]

Sponsor

How about a UK-, France-, or Germany-style European leftish nation (all those countries are more leftist than the US or Elizia) dealing with terrorism and migrants, EU issues, etc.

Again, striking a balance is key here, making a leftist paradise hastens inactivity and death.

It wouldn't be a leftist paradise; all I was saying is that the UK, France, and Germany are more to the left than the US or our most recent incarnation, Elizia.

[The New World Oceania]

Hmmm I'm not sure on impoverished nation tbh; economic modeling is going to be long and I doubt that will happen with significant unanimity or regularity so we prolly end up either massively restricting rp or completely ignoring that part of the setting...

We don't have to restrict roleplaying — people can pass a universal healthcare bill, but the admins will indicate it's failure through events; rather than the admins taking the Baltonia route of enforcing realism by restricting certain things, they'd instead use their prerogative to roleplay events and consequences to make realism the only option.

[Greater Istanistan]

NazBol is the way to go in any given nation tbqh

[Costa Fierro]

I had something written down as a possible island state located in the Kermadec Islands. Sadly my laptop ate it then committed seppuku.

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[FreYhill]

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I support this if we don't do Australia.

[The Sarian]

I had something written down as a possible island state located in the Kermadec Islands. Sadly my laptop ate it then committed seppuku.

Perhaps you could just copy the history of Oman again?

[Costa Fierro]

I had something written down as a possible island state located in the Kermadec Islands. Sadly my laptop ate it then committed seppuku.

Perhaps you could just copy the history of Oman again?

Perhaps you could constructively contribute this time.

[The Sarian]

Perhaps you could just copy the history of Oman again?

Perhaps you could constructively contribute this time.

#triggered

[Partido Liberal Constitucional]

We should do the Caspian Sea proposal because:

• It can have a realistic history. The USSR created two puppet states during it's occupation Iran in WWII. We could easily go and claim that this island (in the Caspian Sea populated by Iranians) was such a puppet state and continued to exist (unlike the two real ones which were promptly reconquered by Iran) due to Soviet protection and/or the intervention of some other power.
• It's set in a truly new area. The senate has done Central America, the Baltics, Southeast Asia, and the Mediterranean. The Caspian is a truly new area which we haven't been to before.
• It could involve Islamism. Due to the island's proximity and cultural ties to Iran it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some Islamist influence. Now of course this doesn't mean that we would have to mimic contemporary Iranian politics, or that we should. But it would give an opportunity for something quite different which we really haven't had yet.
• It doesn't make orthodox left-right politics totally impossible. Imperial Iran did in fact have politics as such: with the National Front (Mossadegh's party) being on the liberalish centre-left side, the Tudeh Party being far-left communists, the Rastakhiz Party being right-wing monarchists, and SUMKA were fascist nazis. There might not be a monarchy, but this kind of political setting could be realistically adopted (albeit with changes). As an alternate example Georgia sort of has left-right politics. Although their representative of the centre-left is rather big tent and riddled with various social conservatives, the thing as a whole does serve an example of a post-Soviet setting with (roughly) orthodox left-right style politics.
• Geopolitics. Others have stated before that geopolitical issues should not become the main focus. This may be true, but the very geopolitically important nature of the Caspian Sea would offer some opportunities for rps involving foreign relations and such. And that may be interesting so I dunno.

What about that?

[Socialist Nordia]

We should do the Caspian Sea proposal because:

• It can have a realistic history. The USSR created two puppet states during it's occupation Iran in WWII. We could easily go and claim that this island (in the Caspian Sea populated by Iranians) was such a puppet state and continued to exist (unlike the two real ones which were promptly reconquered by Iran) due to Soviet protection and/or the intervention of some other power.
• It's set in a truly new area. The senate has done Central America, the Baltics, Southeast Asia, and the Mediterranean. The Caspian is a truly new area which we haven't been to before.
• It could involve Islamism. Due to the island's proximity and cultural ties to Iran it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect some Islamist influence. Now of course this doesn't mean that we would have to mimic contemporary Iranian politics, or that we should. But it would give an opportunity for something quite different which we really haven't had yet.
• It doesn't make orthodox left-right politics totally impossible. Imperial Iran did in fact have politics as such: with the National Front (Mossadegh's party) being on the liberalish centre-left side, the Tudeh Party being far-left communists, the Rastakhiz Party being right-wing monarchists, and SUMKA were fascist nazis. There might not be a monarchy, but this kind of political setting could be realistically adopted (albeit with changes). As an alternate example Georgia sort of has left-right politics. Although their representative of the centre-left is rather big tent and riddled with various social conservatives, the thing as a whole does serve an example of a post-Soviet setting with (roughly) orthodox left-right style politics.
• Geopolitics. Others have stated before that geopolitical issues should not become the main focus. This may be true, but the very geopolitically important nature of the Caspian Sea would offer some opportunities for rps involving foreign relations and such. And that may be interesting so I dunno.

What about that?

I like the proposal

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

I like the Caspian/Baltic proposals. Having the Pro-Russia to Anti-Russia axis as well as other ones can spice up the parties a bit.

[Ainin]

Special, unorthodox political axes don't make for compelling RP.

[The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism]

Special, unorthodox political axes don't make for compelling RP.

That's very true, I didn't mean to imply that it does. But it is a superficially interesting flavor for the political parties, which is what I was meaning.

[The New World Oceania]

I suggest a Franco-Gaelic country off the coast of Canada. It'd have about 42% French, 42% Irish Gaelic, 14% Native, 4% other, with most people practicing Catholicism. South of Newfoundland, East of Nova Scotia, its history would be something like:
-Originally inhabited by Native Americans, Leif Eriksson decides to take a holiday here in 1000. Leif Eriksson Day is a major holiday comparable to Christmas
-French decide to build some towns and colonies here.
-French are forced to cede the colony after the Seven Years’ War. The British proceed to encourage Scottish and Irish settlement on the island to weaken the French establishment and French influence.
-In the 1840s and 1850s many Irish settle the island, fleeing from the Potato Famine. Because of an already-substantial Irish minority they aren’t forced to learn English. Gaels increase to roughly half of the population and Irish starts to win out over Scottish Gaelic.
-The islanders decide to remain independent (like Newfoundland) and not join Confederation due to a very different culture from the mainland.
-The United States attempts to invade during the War of 1812.
-Tensions between the French and the Irish cause a constitutional convention.

Thoughts?

[Arachaea]

I suggest a Franco-Gaelic country off the coast of Canada. It'd have about 42% French, 42% Irish Gaelic, 14% Native, 4% other, with most people practicing Catholicism. South of Newfoundland, East of Nova Scotia, its history would be something like:
-Originally inhabited by Native Americans, Leif Eriksson decides to take a holiday here in 1000. Leif Eriksson Day is a major holiday comparable to Christmas
-French decide to build some towns and colonies here.
-French are forced to cede the colony after the Seven Years’ War. The British proceed to encourage Scottish and Irish settlement on the island to weaken the French establishment and French influence.
-In the 1840s and 1850s many Irish settle the island, fleeing from the Potato Famine. Because of an already-substantial Irish minority they aren’t forced to learn English. Gaels increase to roughly half of the population and Irish starts to win out over Scottish Gaelic.
-The islanders decide to remain independent (like Newfoundland) and not join Confederation due to a very different culture from the mainland.
-The United States attempts to invade during the War of 1812.
-Tensions between the French and the Irish cause a constitutional convention.

Thoughts?

I like; it adds interesting new perspectives and allows for both socially liberal and socially conservative policies, as well as left-wing and right-wing economics.