[NSG Senate] Lobby-ing a Scimitar

[Arkolon]

It's only two weeks, it's not that bad.

[The New World Oceania]

It's only two weeks, it's not that bad.

18/7=2.5.

Let's just not do anything for two and a half weeks. That'll be a real activity booster.

[The Sarian]

I mean, you're the one who wrote the motion. If you cared about activity and all the rest of it, you could have just not done it?

[Arkolon]

It's only two weeks, it's not that bad.

18/7=2.5.

Let's just not do anything for two and a half weeks. That'll be a real activity booster.

It's not nothing. Bills would still go through and budgets would probably have to go through bipartisan committees. Buses will run and police will walk the streets; arguments will be debated and trials will be heard. There would still be a government, just not one that could do many useful things like, say, dissolve parliament and call new elections straight away.

[The New World Oceania]

I mean, you're the one who wrote the motion. If you cared about activity and all the rest of it, you could have just not done it?

An active roleplay and a functioning roleplay aren't a binary opposition.

[Ikania]

I'd like to bring attention to a nation called "SLP Whip" which telegrammed our party members and ordered them to vote 'nay' on the no-confidence bill, as if that was the option to bring down the government. Whoever's behind that account impersonated a party official to try and sabotage our vote.

[Collatis]

I'd like to bring attention to a nation called "SLP Whip" which telegrammed our party members and ordered them to vote 'nay' on the no-confidence bill, as if that was the option to bring down the government. Whoever's behind that account impersonated a party official to try and sabotage our vote.

The same thing has happened to LD members under the account Lib Dem Whip.

[MERIZoC]

Speaking from the perspective of both a player and an admin, that's pretty scummy. These actions are not in the spirit of the rp, and whoever is behind these accounts would do well to confess and apologize.

[Takhshiyt]

Funny me the discussion of that vote helped clarify some of it for me. Not to say I endorse what that person did.

[DrWinner]

I have identified the individual responsible, mainly because, between the two LibDem vote bills, this individual forgot to include themselves in the second one sent.

I will give this individual 24 hours to come forward and admit their wrongdoing before I just call them out.

[Takhshiyt]

>Elizia
>poor third world country
>votes to build a massive environment protection agency
>that can kill poachers whenever they want
>meanwhile Elizians are starving

Lel

[MERIZoC]

>Elizia
>poor third world country
>votes to build a massive environment protection agency
>that can kill poachers whenever they want
>meanwhile Elizians are starving

Lel

Are they?

[Arkolon]

>Elizia
>poor third world country
>votes to build a massive environment protection agency
>that can kill poachers whenever they want
>meanwhile Elizians are starving

Lel

Are they?

At least in Sub-Saharan Africa, there's a correlation between GDP per capita and malnourishment. Don't know about SE Asia but the link would, in theory, make sense.

[Takhshiyt]

I merely assumed that a island nation with a GDP per capita of 2,400 that just came out of a civil war will have serious issues with infrastructure, crime, and poverty.

[NSG Senate Administrators]

NWO has agreed to give the admins control over the provincial legislature system, so we'll be OPs of any threads made for that. This is an interesting project and we hope to see it go further. Regulations and such to follow. Let us know what you think of this and what you'd like to see.

-Merizoc

[Ainin]

>Elizia
>poor third world country
>votes to build a massive environment protection agency

Southern Asia has a massive smuggling and poaching problem. A massive problem requires massive remedial action.

>that can kill poachers whenever they want

We still have homicide laws. The Department of Justice will indict and prosecute any wildlife protection officer that engages in excessive force.

>meanwhile Elizians are starving

Food insecurity isn't actually that severe in Southeast Asia. In countries with half our GDP per capita (Burma and Cambodia), undernourishment rates barely reach 15%.

[Takhshiyt]

>Elizia
>poor third world country
>votes to build a massive environment protection agency

Southern Asia has a massive smuggling and poaching problem. A massive problem requires massive remedial action.

>that can kill poachers whenever they want

We still have homicide laws. The Department of Justice will indict and prosecute any wildlife protection officer that engages in excessive force.

>meanwhile Elizians are starving

Food insecurity isn't actually that severe in Southeast Asia. In countries with half our GDP per capita (Burma and Cambodia), undernourishment rates barely reach 15%.

I understand that. But I hardly doubt our national government should be setting up bureaucracy to " save the animals" when we are in deep trouble economically and otherwise. I quote:

"iv. Wildlife Protection Agents shall be authorized to use lethal force against poachers if necessary to protect themselves or a protected species."

"c: Under the WPA there shall be 5,000 law enforcement officials with the responsibility of enforcing federal environmental and wildlife legislation."

Really? A dirt poor nation like ours is going to recruit, train, and pay 5,000 people to run around shooting people for poaching the wild Elizian fire breasted boar? Really? I am all for protecting animal species, but there has to be a better solution at the moment. We don't have loads of cash laying around to pay for this, Elizia actually has a limited amount of money. And notice that the DoJ can't prosecute because it is now lawful for the WPA officers to kill people if they are caught poaching.

A question too for anyone, what is the tax rates in Elizia?

[Lykens]

Elizian fire breasted boar sounds fun.

[Takhshiyt]

Elizian fire breasted boar sounds fun.

lol

[Arkolon]

A question too for anyone, what is the tax rates in Elizia?

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[Arachaea]

Southern Asia has a massive smuggling and poaching problem. A massive problem requires massive remedial action.


We still have homicide laws. The Department of Justice will indict and prosecute any wildlife protection officer that engages in excessive force.


Food insecurity isn't actually that severe in Southeast Asia. In countries with half our GDP per capita (Burma and Cambodia), undernourishment rates barely reach 15%.

I understand that. But I hardly doubt our national government should be setting up bureaucracy to " save the animals" when we are in deep trouble economically and otherwise. I quote:

"iv. Wildlife Protection Agents shall be authorized to use lethal force against poachers if necessary to protect themselves or a protected species."

"c: Under the WPA there shall be 5,000 law enforcement officials with the responsibility of enforcing federal environmental and wildlife legislation."

Really? A dirt poor nation like ours is going to recruit, train, and pay 5,000 people to run around shooting people for poaching the wild Elizian fire breasted boar? Really? I am all for protecting animal species, but there has to be a better solution at the moment. We don't have loads of cash laying around to pay for this, Elizia actually has a limited amount of money. And notice that the DoJ can't prosecute because it is now lawful for the WPA officers to kill people if they are caught poaching.

A question too for anyone, what is the tax rates in Elizia?

I remember that the top tier is 50%, and the bottom is 0%, but I can't remember anything else.

[MERIZoC]

Really? A dirt poor nation like ours is going to recruit, train, and pay 5,000 people to run around shooting people for poaching the wild Elizian fire breasted boar? Really? I am all for protecting animal species, but there has to be a better solution at the moment. We don't have loads of cash laying around to pay for this, Elizia actually has a limited amount of money. And notice that the DoJ can't prosecute because it is now lawful for the WPA officers to kill people if they are caught poaching.

You understand that when people are employed, they contribute to the economy, yes? I'm not quite sure why you'd rather have 5000 people sitting around doing nothing.

[Arachaea]

As I said on the IRC earlier, I'm considering of killing off my senator and establishing a centrist party, but I'm not sure if it would be the best time to do so, given that the action concerning the motion of confidence is going on.

[Tumbra]

Opinion polls can be found at goo.gl/yx8SQ7

Constituency thread can be found at https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 5&t=387333 <- CLICK HERE FOR FUN!

Opinion Research Survey Number Ten

This poll was conducted by measuring the number of Senators who voted in the last round of voting. Before any of you pedantics grab at my throat, this is the best way of doing things. There would be no way to measure opinion otherwise.

The question polled was this.

"If an election for the government of Elizia were to be held tomorrow, who would you vote for?"

The results were as such.

National Coalition - 34.0% (18/53)
- of which Path to Harmony 7/18
- of which Elizia First 8/18
- of which Chinese Interests 2/18
- of which Independents in the government 1/18
Liberal Coalition - 45.3% (24/53)
- of which Social Liberal 12/24
- of which Liberal Democrat 12/24
Elizian Communist Party - 13.2% (7/53)
- of which Communist 7/7
Independents & Others - 7.5% (4/53)
- of which Elizian National Congress 1/4
- of which People's Movement for Elizia 1/4
- of which Independents 2/4

Turnout was up on last poll.

[Arkolon]

You guys do realise that, say I do resign (despite not being compelled to) and we elect a new President, that President would only be President until October 18th - so for about a week and a half, after the time it takes to vote and nominate - before parliament is dissolved and we have to go through the same process again?