[NSG Senate] Lobby-ing a Scimitar

[Eol Sha]

So what are the far-right parties so that I can one and eventually gravitate to centrism as I grow disenfranchised from a lack of compromise?

Elzia First, maybe, since the ENC is dead.

[Tumbra]

So what are the far-right parties so that I can one and eventually gravitate to centrism as I grow disenfranchised from a lack of compromise?

Elzia First, maybe, since the ENC is dead.

ENC was revived recently.

[Belmaria]

Elzia First, maybe, since the ENC is dead.

ENC was revived recently.

Don't remind me.

[Eol Sha]

Elzia First, maybe, since the ENC is dead.

ENC was revived recently.

Really? By who?

[Tumbra]

ENC was revived recently.

Really? By who?

Archism.

[Takhshiyt]

What bill are we currently discussing in the Senate Chamber?

[Belmaria]

What bill are we currently discussing in the Senate Chamber?

We're currently discussing what we should be discussing, in place of what we were supposed to discuss, because some members believe that discussion about discussion instead of actual discussion is productive discussion.

[Argentarino]

What bill are we currently discussing in the Senate Chamber?

We're currently discussing what we should be discussing, in place of what we were supposed to discuss, because some members believe that discussion about discussion instead of actual discussion is productive discussion.

Discussionception!

[FreYhill]

What bill are we currently discussing in the Senate Chamber?

An Amedment of the Constitution and a Confidence vote, it's complicated

[Arkolon]

What bill are we currently discussing in the Senate Chamber?

An Amedment of the Constitution and a Confidence vote, it's complicated

We are currently debating the Repeal of the Parliamentary Procedure Amendment and only that.

[Takhshiyt]

What bill are we currently discussing in the Senate Chamber?

An Amedment of the Constitution and a Confidence vote, it's complicated

Where is the constitution? I checked the bill depository and came up empty handed.

[House of Judah]

An Amedment of the Constitution and a Confidence vote, it's complicated

Where is the constitution? I checked the bill depository and came up empty handed.

Here you go.

[Belmaria]

An Amedment of the Constitution and a Confidence vote, it's complicated

We are currently debating the Repeal of the Parliamentary Procedure Amendment and only that.

Someone doesn't want to even admit that there is a challenge against the government.

[Takhshiyt]

Where is the constitution? I checked the bill depository and came up empty handed.

Here you go.

Snaps that is a long document.

[Arkolon]

We are currently debating the Repeal of the Parliamentary Procedure Amendment and only that.

Someone doesn't want to even admit that there is a challenge against the government.

No, I'm just telling the other member what's being debated in the Senate. There is a resolution of no confidence, but it's not being debated, at least not when I wrote that post.

[FreYhill]

Here you go.

Snaps that is a long document.

Well it is the constitution

[DrWinner]

Hey, whoever in the National Coalition happens to control the portion of the government investigating Mark Markson: Please TG me immediately. I believe settling this issue out of court will help both the government and Markson Industries.

[Belmaria]

I love how the current amendment being voted on allows the Speaker virtually unlimited power in choosing which bills to allow to come to the floor. As long as the government has bills to be voted on, the opposition never has a chance to even table bills. #Democracy

EDIT: Also, this is totally a personal attack on your character Tumbra. Ban me from the chamber again, because every issue related to the speakership is totally about you.

[DrWinner]

I love how the current amendment being voted on allows the Speaker virtually unlimited power in choosing which bills to allow to come to the floor. As long as the government has bills to be voted on, the opposition never has a chance to even table bills. #Democracy

I say better that than an equally corrupt system where only the lucky few who are on once a bill is moved to the voting stage get to vote. At least now, once again, both Coalitions can present a unified front to bills, and there will be some form of order in the house.

[Belmaria]

I love how the current amendment being voted on allows the Speaker virtually unlimited power in choosing which bills to allow to come to the floor. As long as the government has bills to be voted on, the opposition never has a chance to even table bills. #Democracy

I say better that than an equally corrupt system where only the lucky few who are on once a bill is moved to the voting stage get to vote. At least now, once again, both Coalitions can present a unified front to bills, and there will be some form of order in the house.

Establish a quorum required to pass crucial motions so that a minority that happen to be in the Senate at a certain time can't dictate the agenda. That's how literally every legislature in the world does it.

[Takhshiyt]

Query. Is the current bill repealing the entire amendment, or is it repealing only certain sections?

[DrWinner]

I say better that than an equally corrupt system where only the lucky few who are on once a bill is moved to the voting stage get to vote. At least now, once again, both Coalitions can present a unified front to bills, and there will be some form of order in the house.

Establish a quorum required to pass crucial motions so that a minority that happen to be in the Senate at a certain time can't dictate the agenda. That's how literally every legislature in the world does it.

But that is not what was going on in the senate. In the senate, the minority were dictating agenda. Now, it'll be the majority dictating agenda, at the very least.

[Belmaria]

Establish a quorum required to pass crucial motions so that a minority that happen to be in the Senate at a certain time can't dictate the agenda. That's how literally every legislature in the world does it.

But that is not what was going on in the senate. In the senate, the minority were dictating agenda. Now, it'll be the majority dictating agenda, at the very least.

You don't understand quorums, do you? They prevent minorities from taking control when most members of a legislative body are absent. We can't have quorum calls every day, due to the nature of our logistics, but we can establish a dynamic, percentage-based quota of seconds/votes necessary to pass a bill or motion at any time. This prevents the minority from ever having coups at opportune times, while also maintaining freedom for the opposition to propose legislation.

[DrWinner]

But that is not what was going on in the senate. In the senate, the minority were dictating agenda. Now, it'll be the majority dictating agenda, at the very least.

You don't understand quorums, do you? They prevent minorities from taking control when most members of a legislative body are absent. We can't have quorum calls every day, due to the nature of our logistics, but we can establish a dynamic, percentage-based quota of seconds/votes necessary to pass a bill or motion at any time. This prevents the minority from ever having coups at opportune times, while also maintaining freedom for the opposition to propose legislation.

And now, the minority still won't be having coups, and, since I highly doubt the government's ability to keep churning out needless bills to prevent Liberal bills from getting into the Senate, the LibCoal can easily vote everything that the government puts forward down with the support of the damned Communists. This, of course, assumes the Communists vote as true communists would, and not in their piss poor attempts to gain power.

Regardless, the system currently being voted in is an improvement on the chaos of the past few days.

[Belmaria]

You don't understand quorums, do you? They prevent minorities from taking control when most members of a legislative body are absent. We can't have quorum calls every day, due to the nature of our logistics, but we can establish a dynamic, percentage-based quota of seconds/votes necessary to pass a bill or motion at any time. This prevents the minority from ever having coups at opportune times, while also maintaining freedom for the opposition to propose legislation.

And now, the minority still won't be having coups, and, since I highly doubt the government's ability to keep churning out needless bills to prevent Liberal bills from getting into the Senate, the LibCoal can easily vote everything that the government puts forward down with the support of the damned Communists. This, of course, assumes the Communists vote as true communists would, and not in their piss poor attempts to gain power.

Regardless, the system currently being voted in is an improvement on the chaos of the past few days.

At this point, it's a matter of what you prefer. If you would rather settle on a flawed system, vote for the proposed amendment. If you want to pass a better proposal that doesn't allow the government to muzzle the opposition, vote nay.