[NSG Senate] Lobby-ing a Scimitar

[Skappola]

Admittedly, I'm not sure, as it seems suprisingly hard to find information on it for these particular industries. I imagine it would be in equilibrium.

Instead of doing it like the gdoc suggested, where the Steel industry's trade balance is price of steel * steel export - price of intermediate material * steel production, I'm thinking of instead having it set as four or five "major exports" and four or five "major imports", of equal numerical value, but with fluctuating dollar values. So, concretely, we need a list of major imports as well as exports.

Exports: palm oil, textiles, rubber, _______, _______.
Imports: _______, _______, _______, _______, _______.

As in most countries in our position, machinery and transport equipment is likely a major import, both due to our lack of heavy industry and large agricultural sector.

[Arkolon]

Instead of doing it like the gdoc suggested, where the Steel industry's trade balance is price of steel * steel export - price of intermediate material * steel production, I'm thinking of instead having it set as four or five "major exports" and four or five "major imports", of equal numerical value, but with fluctuating dollar values. So, concretely, we need a list of major imports as well as exports.

Exports: palm oil, textiles, rubber, _______, _______.
Imports: _______, _______, _______, _______, _______.

As in most countries in our position, machinery and transport equipment is likely a major import, both due to our lack of heavy industry and large agricultural sector.

I definitely agree. What could we use as a machinery/equipment price index?

[Ainin]

[Maklohi Vai]

Nice chart!

[The Nihilistic view]

that bar at the bottom looks familiar, the colours......the percentages......

[Ainin]

Ahh, so that's where I stole borrowed it from.

I knew I stole borrowed it from somewhere, I just couldn't remember what. Brexit coverage.

[Britanno 2]

that bar at the bottom looks familiar, the colours......the percentages......

Was the first thing that came into my head as well (right before I thought about how much spare time Ainin must have )

[Collatis]

Ahh, so that's where I stole borrowed it from.

I knew I stole borrowed it from somewhere, I just couldn't remember what. Brexit coverage.

Does that mean I'm Leave? Ugh this has ruined my victory

[Arkolon]

Obligatory reference to how Labour voted Siva and NWP voted centre-right.

[Maklohi Vai]

Obligatory reference to how Labour voted Siva and NWP voted centre-right.

#NotMyFault

[Vedastia]

Obligatory reference to how Labour voted Siva and NWP voted centre-right.

Isn't Labour left-wing but socially conservative? Considering their past with the National Coalition, it would make sense for Labour to vote for Jeyaratnam.

[The Licentian Isles]

Obligatory reference to how Labour voted Siva and NWP voted centre-right.

Isn't Labour left-wing but socially conservative? Considering their past with the National Coalition, it would make sense for Labour to vote for Jeyaratnam.

The Labour Party voted to leave the National Coalition because the coalition is socially conservative.

[Maklohi Vai]

Obligatory reference to how Labour voted Siva and NWP voted centre-right.

Isn't Labour left-wing but socially conservative? Considering their past with the National Coalition, it would make sense for Labour to vote for Jeyaratnam.

We were placed into the Coalition by our founder, and then when membership grew we decided we didn't want to be a part of it, so we left (largely because it included Islamists). As for the social conservatism, here's our social platform:

- The establishment of a universal healthcare system is vital to ensuring the wellbeing of all Elizians
- Free and universal primary and secondary education, including improving literacy and the development of practical skills
- The development of a social welfare system to protect the poor- beginning with unemployment benefits and the construction of publicly owned housing
- Maintenance of reasonable levels of immigration the ensure the jobs of Elizian workers are protected
- Recognizing the religious and ethnic diversity of Elizia, Labour supports anti-discrimination measures in both government and in the workplace, as well as affirmative action for historically persecuted minorities
- Labour accepts the traditional definition of marriage as an important foundation of social cohesion

For Southeast Asia, I believe this is socially liberal, or at the very least moderate. It's not socially conservative unless you're applying geographically inappropriate standards to it.

[Skappola]

Isn't Labour left-wing but socially conservative? Considering their past with the National Coalition, it would make sense for Labour to vote for Jeyaratnam.

We were placed into the Coalition by our founder, and then when membership grew we decided we didn't want to be a part of it, so we left (largely because it included Islamists). As for the social conservatism, here's our social platform:

- The establishment of a universal healthcare system is vital to ensuring the wellbeing of all Elizians
- Free and universal primary and secondary education, including improving literacy and the development of practical skills
- The development of a social welfare system to protect the poor- beginning with unemployment benefits and the construction of publicly owned housing
- Maintenance of reasonable levels of immigration the ensure the jobs of Elizian workers are protected
- Recognizing the religious and ethnic diversity of Elizia, Labour supports anti-discrimination measures in both government and in the workplace, as well as affirmative action for historically persecuted minorities
- Labour accepts the traditional definition of marriage as an important foundation of social cohesion

For Southeast Asia, I believe this is socially liberal, or at the very least moderate. It's not socially conservative unless you're applying geographically inappropriate standards to it.

Our coalition agrees with all of this, though. If you were leaving because you thought we disagreed with these points, then I'm afraid you're mistaken. Also, we took out the Islamist Party specifically to keep you guys in, and you still left.

As I was told, you guys left because you just didn't like Elizia First.

[Vedastia]

The Labour Party voted to leave the National Coalition because the coalition is socially conservative.

We were placed into the Coalition by our founder, and then when membership grew we decided we didn't want to be a part of it, so we left (largely because it included Islamists). As for the social conservatism, here's our social platform:

- The establishment of a universal healthcare system is vital to ensuring the wellbeing of all Elizians
- Free and universal primary and secondary education, including improving literacy and the development of practical skills
- The development of a social welfare system to protect the poor- beginning with unemployment benefits and the construction of publicly owned housing
- Maintenance of reasonable levels of immigration the ensure the jobs of Elizian workers are protected
- Recognizing the religious and ethnic diversity of Elizia, Labour supports anti-discrimination measures in both government and in the workplace, as well as affirmative action for historically persecuted minorities
- Labour accepts the traditional definition of marriage as an important foundation of social cohesion

For Southeast Asia, I believe this is socially liberal, or at the very least moderate. It's not socially conservative unless you're applying geographically inappropriate standards to it.

Thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry if I interpreted the NC thread wrong.

[Arkolon]

We were placed into the Coalition by our founder, and then when membership grew we decided we didn't want to be a part of it, so we left (largely because it included Islamists). As for the social conservatism, here's our social platform:

- The establishment of a universal healthcare system is vital to ensuring the wellbeing of all Elizians
- Free and universal primary and secondary education, including improving literacy and the development of practical skills
- The development of a social welfare system to protect the poor- beginning with unemployment benefits and the construction of publicly owned housing
- Maintenance of reasonable levels of immigration the ensure the jobs of Elizian workers are protected
- Recognizing the religious and ethnic diversity of Elizia, Labour supports anti-discrimination measures in both government and in the workplace, as well as affirmative action for historically persecuted minorities
- Labour accepts the traditional definition of marriage as an important foundation of social cohesion

For Southeast Asia, I believe this is socially liberal, or at the very least moderate. It's not socially conservative unless you're applying geographically inappropriate standards to it.

Our coalition agrees with all of this, though. If you were leaving because you thought we disagreed with these points, then I'm afraid you're mistaken. Also, we took out the Islamist Party specifically to keep you guys in, and you still left.

As I was told, you guys left because you just didn't like Elizia First.

I thought the blame was on NIP?

[Skappola]

Our coalition agrees with all of this, though. If you were leaving because you thought we disagreed with these points, then I'm afraid you're mistaken. Also, we took out the Islamist Party specifically to keep you guys in, and you still left.

As I was told, you guys left because you just didn't like Elizia First.

I thought the blame was on NIP?

Unless there was a misunderstanding going on, that couldn't be it. I'm pretty sure we kicked them out a day before the labor party decided to leave.

[Arkolon]

I thought the blame was on NIP?

Unless there was a misunderstanding going on, that couldn't be it. I'm pretty sure we kicked them out a day before the labor party decided to leave.

It wasn't very publicised, at least I didn't think so.

[Maklohi Vai]

Unless there was a misunderstanding going on, that couldn't be it. I'm pretty sure we kicked them out a day before the labor party decided to leave.

It wasn't very publicised, at least I didn't think so.

Yeah, this is actually the first I'm hearing of it.

[Britanno 2]

We'd already left when you kicked out the NIP. There were unofficial soundings to see if we'd rejoin if you kicked out the NIP, but those didn't progress into anything more and then you kicked them out anyway.

[Skappola]

We'd already left when you kicked out the NIP. There were unofficial soundings to see if we'd rejoin if you kicked out the NIP, but those didn't progress into anything more and then you kicked them out anyway.

That's not true. We kicked out the NIP on July 8th and you officially left July 9th.

[Arkolon]

We'd already left when you kicked out the NIP. There were unofficial soundings to see if we'd rejoin if you kicked out the NIP, but those didn't progress into anything more and then you kicked them out anyway.

Are you sure you aren't confusing NIP with the caucus of Putu Hutapea?

It wasn't very publicised, at least I didn't think so.

Yeah, this is actually the first I'm hearing of it.

It was in the coalition thread, I believe, which isn't the first place people would look.

[Britanno 2]

[That's not true. We kicked out the NIP on July 8th and you officially left July 9th.

This was posted on July 8th:

"By mutual agreement by the leaders of the remaining three parties of the National Coalition, the National Islamic Party will no longer remain as part of the National Coalition. As a result, the two parties in the NC are Path to Harmony and the Elizia First Party.

As soon as the NIP was removed there were only 2 parties left which means it is literally impossible we left after the NIP was removed.

[Maklohi Vai]

While all this bickering is fun, let me take a moment to remind people that it doesn't bloody matter.

[Skappola]

While all this bickering is fun, let me take a moment to remind people that it doesn't bloody matter.

I mean, it kind of does if people were just leaving because of the NIP.