Page 4 of 7

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:05 am
by United Provinces of Atlantica
Merizoc wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:I agree with many parts of the Party Constitution, I believe that party members should be allowed to appeal the decisions of the Parliamentary Leader as well; that party members may propose changes to the Platform and that amendments to the platform must be agreed to by a simple majority of members; that the Parliamentary Leader must be re-elected every two months as well; that a vote on whether or not to a recall any three of the leadership positions should be given if more than one-fourth of party members petition a recall; and that, lastly, amendments to the Party Constitution can be proposed by either two members of the party, and must be ratified by a three-fifths majority. I believe that these changes would result in a more democratic structure that would allow for more voices of party members to be heard.

- Executive Council consisting of:
- Chairman, responsible for maintaining the party thread and running day-to-day affairs, with input from the rest of the council on major issues and from the party as a whole on issues relating to the party's direction, constitution and platform;
- Parliamentary Leader, responsible for dealing with inter-party (and potential coalition) relations and representing the party in Parliament;
- Parliamentary Whip, responsible for issuing voting recommendations on the advice of the council.
- The following voting recommendations may be issued:
- 1 line—Suggested vote: Recommendation vote, not binding on members.
- 2 line—Strongly suggested vote: Breaking a few is fine, but failure to comply with enough 2 line whips may result in expulsion from the party at the discretion of the executive council.
- 3 line—Required vote: All members shall either vote according to the directive, abstain or be absent. Breaking a 3 line whip may be grounds for expulsion at the discretion of the executive council, though it may not always be.
-In addition, the executive council may decide to issue no recommendation, in which case the bill is a free vote.

- Any party member may motion to appeal any decision of the Chairman. If a second member seconds it, a vote shall be initiated employing:
- First-past-the-post plurality system for simple yes-no votes;
- IRV count for votes with multiple choices.
- The Chairman and Parliamentary Coordinator shall be elected every two months in elections using the aforementioned methods.
- The Parliamentary Leader shall be elected upon the predecessor's resignation or removal, and shall have an unlimited term. At any time, a motion supported by two members of the party or a decision by the leader himself may initiate a leadership spill to decide whether the parliamentary leader continues to hold the party's confidence. If more than one-half of members disapprove, he shall be compelled to resign.
-A member may motion to amend the platform. It requires one second and shall then be put to a 1/2 majority vote.
-A member may motion to amend the constitution. It requires two seconds and shall then be put to a 3/5 majority vote.


Updated. A couple of your recommendations were redundant, like the periodic vote for the parliamentary leader, as they are already subject to confidence.

Shall we put this to a vote?

I'd say so, although I don't know if you'd prefer to go with Parliamentary Whip or Parliamentary Coordinator.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:25 pm
by MERIZoC
I personally prefer whip so...

Anyway, I'll start the vote when I can. After that we'll hold elections for the three positions.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:43 pm
by Path to Harmony
- Executive Council consisting of:
- Chairman, responsible for maintaining the party thread and running day-to-day affairs, with input from the rest of the council on major issues and from the party as a whole on issues relating to the party's direction, constitution and platform;
- Parliamentary Leader, responsible for dealing with inter-party (and potential coalition) relations and representing the party in Parliament;
- Parliamentary Whip, responsible for issuing voting recommendations on the advice of the council.
- The following voting recommendations may be issued:
- 1 line—Suggested vote: Recommendation vote, not binding on members.
- 2 line—Strongly suggested vote: Breaking a few is fine, but failure to comply with enough 2 line whips may result in expulsion from the party at the discretion of the executive council.
- 3 line—Required vote: All members shall either vote according to the directive, abstain or be absent. Breaking a 3 line whip may be grounds for expulsion at the discretion of the executive council, though it may not always be.
-In addition, the executive council may decide to issue no recommendation, in which case the bill is a free vote.

- Any party member may motion to appeal any decision of the Chairman. If a second member seconds it, a vote shall be initiated employing:
- First-past-the-post plurality system for simple yes-no votes;
- IRV count for votes with multiple choices.
- The Chairman and Parliamentary Coordinator shall be elected every two months in elections using the aforementioned methods.
- The Parliamentary Leader shall be elected upon the predecessor's resignation or removal, and shall have an unlimited term. At any time, a motion supported by two members of the party or a decision by the leader himself may initiate a leadership spill to decide whether the parliamentary leader continues to hold the party's confidence. If more than one-half of members disapprove, he shall be compelled to resign.
-A member may motion to amend the platform. It requires one second and shall then be put to a 1/2 majority vote.
-A member may motion to amend the constitution. It requires two seconds and shall then be put to a 3/5 majority vote.


There will now be a 48 hour vote on the above. Members may either vote "aye", "nay", or "abstain".

Should a 1/2 majority vote "aye" this becomes our party constitution.

-Merizoc

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:45 pm
by MERIZoC
Aye

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:54 pm
by Skappola
FPTP AND IRV? You're spoiling me. Aye.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:15 pm
by Alistan
Aye

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:16 pm
by Pasovo-nacoBo
Path to Harmony wrote:
- Executive Council consisting of:
- Chairman, responsible for maintaining the party thread and running day-to-day affairs, with input from the rest of the council on major issues and from the party as a whole on issues relating to the party's direction, constitution and platform;
- Parliamentary Leader, responsible for dealing with inter-party (and potential coalition) relations and representing the party in Parliament;
- Parliamentary Whip, responsible for issuing voting recommendations on the advice of the council.
- The following voting recommendations may be issued:
- 1 line—Suggested vote: Recommendation vote, not binding on members.
- 2 line—Strongly suggested vote: Breaking a few is fine, but failure to comply with enough 2 line whips may result in expulsion from the party at the discretion of the executive council.
- 3 line—Required vote: All members shall either vote according to the directive, abstain or be absent. Breaking a 3 line whip may be grounds for expulsion at the discretion of the executive council, though it may not always be.
-In addition, the executive council may decide to issue no recommendation, in which case the bill is a free vote.

- Any party member may motion to appeal any decision of the Chairman. If a second member seconds it, a vote shall be initiated employing:
- First-past-the-post plurality system for simple yes-no votes;
- IRV count for votes with multiple choices.
- The Chairman and Parliamentary Coordinator shall be elected every two months in elections using the aforementioned methods.
- The Parliamentary Leader shall be elected upon the predecessor's resignation or removal, and shall have an unlimited term. At any time, a motion supported by two members of the party or a decision by the leader himself may initiate a leadership spill to decide whether the parliamentary leader continues to hold the party's confidence. If more than one-half of members disapprove, he shall be compelled to resign.
-A member may motion to amend the platform. It requires one second and shall then be put to a 1/2 majority vote.
-A member may motion to amend the constitution. It requires two seconds and shall then be put to a 3/5 majority vote.


There will now be a 48 hour vote on the above. Members may either vote "aye", "nay", or "abstain".

Should a 1/2 majority vote "aye" this becomes our party constitution.

-Merizoc

I vote Aye for this Constitution.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:20 pm
by MERIZoC
Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:
Path to Harmony wrote:
- Executive Council consisting of:
- Chairman, responsible for maintaining the party thread and running day-to-day affairs, with input from the rest of the council on major issues and from the party as a whole on issues relating to the party's direction, constitution and platform;
- Parliamentary Leader, responsible for dealing with inter-party (and potential coalition) relations and representing the party in Parliament;
- Parliamentary Whip, responsible for issuing voting recommendations on the advice of the council.
- The following voting recommendations may be issued:
- 1 line—Suggested vote: Recommendation vote, not binding on members.
- 2 line—Strongly suggested vote: Breaking a few is fine, but failure to comply with enough 2 line whips may result in expulsion from the party at the discretion of the executive council.
- 3 line—Required vote: All members shall either vote according to the directive, abstain or be absent. Breaking a 3 line whip may be grounds for expulsion at the discretion of the executive council, though it may not always be.
-In addition, the executive council may decide to issue no recommendation, in which case the bill is a free vote.

- Any party member may motion to appeal any decision of the Chairman. If a second member seconds it, a vote shall be initiated employing:
- First-past-the-post plurality system for simple yes-no votes;
- IRV count for votes with multiple choices.
- The Chairman and Parliamentary Coordinator shall be elected every two months in elections using the aforementioned methods.
- The Parliamentary Leader shall be elected upon the predecessor's resignation or removal, and shall have an unlimited term. At any time, a motion supported by two members of the party or a decision by the leader himself may initiate a leadership spill to decide whether the parliamentary leader continues to hold the party's confidence. If more than one-half of members disapprove, he shall be compelled to resign.
-A member may motion to amend the platform. It requires one second and shall then be put to a 1/2 majority vote.
-A member may motion to amend the constitution. It requires two seconds and shall then be put to a 3/5 majority vote.


There will now be a 48 hour vote on the above. Members may either vote "aye", "nay", or "abstain".

Should a 1/2 majority vote "aye" this becomes our party constitution.

-Merizoc

I vote Aye for this Constitution.

Welcome!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:23 pm
by United Provinces of Atlantica
Aye

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:26 pm
by Pasovo-nacoBo
Merizoc wrote:
Pasovo-nacoBo wrote:

I vote Aye for this Constitution.

Welcome!

Hey, I am an old friend of Skappoola's, greetings from the Unitarian Union!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:53 pm
by Elizia National Coalition

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:53 pm
by Victoriala
Aye.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:21 pm
by Alistan
I advocate for leaving the IMF and World Bank, seeing how much the damage done to undevolved countries.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:41 pm
by Skappola
Alistan wrote:I advocate for leaving the IMF and World Bank, seeing how much the damage done to undevolved countries.

Even if we can't convince the other parties to leave the IMF, I'd certainly advocate we reject the obligations of Article VIII, Sections 2, 3, and 4 which restrict our ability to control our own currency and international financial transactions. As long as those clauses are in force, we are unable to effectively make use of price controls to protect our people from the rigor of the international markets without first consulting with the imperialistic nations of Europe - who's own economies are dependent on price controls in developing nations being nullified.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:14 am
by Skappola
Financial Sovereignty Act
Author: Danh Trieu (Path to Harmony)
Sponsors:

An act to ensure the financial sovereignty of Elizia.

BBE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Definitions:
IMF - the International Monetary Fund.

§2 – The IMF
In protest of the unreasonable interest rates levied upon Elizia and the unequal representation in international financial votes, Elizia hereby withdraws from the IMF and all associated agencies.
  1. All debt owed to the IMF and foreign nations through the IMF by Elizia is hereby declared null and void.
  2. Any attempts to forcefully collect upon the aforementioned debt will be considered encroachment upon the Elizia's financial sovereignty, and dealt with at the behest of Elizia's parliament.
§3 – Non-IMF Debts
  1. Government debt unrelated to the IMF shall still be repaid on time and in full.
§4 – Multilateral Development Banks
In replacement of the imperialistic IMF, Elizia hereby requests membership in the following organizations.
  1. The International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the International Development Association, the International Fund for Agricultural Development, the Islamic Development Bank, and the Asian Development Bank.


Very rough sketch of possible legislation to leave the IMF.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:41 am
by Alistan
Skappola wrote:
Financial Sovereignty Act
Author: Danh Trieu (Path to Harmony)
Sponsors:

An act to ensure the financial sovereignty of Elizia.

BBE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Definitions:
IMF - the International Monetary Fund.

§2 – The IMF
In protest of the unreasonable interest rates levied upon Elizia and the unequal representation in international financial votes, Elizia hereby withdraws from the IMF and all associated agencies.
  1. All debt owed to the IMF and foreign nations through the IMF by Elizia is hereby declared null and void.
  2. Any attempts to forcefully collect upon the aforementioned debt will be considered encroachment upon the Elizia's financial sovereignty, and dealt with at the behest of Elizia's parliament.
§3 – Non-IMF Debts
  1. Government debt unrelated to the IMF shall still be repaid on time and in full.
§4 – Multilateral Development Banks
In replacement of the imperialistic IMF, Elizia hereby requests membership in the following organizations.
  1. The International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the International Development Association, the International Fund for Agricultural Development, the Islamic Development Bank, and the Asian Development Bank.


Very rough sketch of possible legislation to leave the IMF.


I sponsor it

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:33 am
by Britanno 2
Just a quick tag of hippie central.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:45 am
by Lamaredia
Aye.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:26 pm
by Islamic Republic of Aceh
Aye

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:06 pm
by Alistan
National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors:

An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including
  1. Raw materials
  2. Processing Aid Ingredients
  3. Processing
  4. Sanitation chemicals
  5. Packaging


Here is a very rough sketch of a bill that hopes the anxieties of everyone who are upset by the Islamist member and to pacify the concerns of the Islamist member.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:11 pm
by Skappola
Alistan wrote:
National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors:

An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including
  1. Raw materials
  2. Processing Aid Ingredients
  3. Processing
  4. Sanitation chemicals
  5. Packaging


Here is the draft to the amendment of the member of the NIP party.

Hm, perhaps it would be more beneficial to mandate labeling of haram foods, rather than halal.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:16 pm
by Alistan
Skappola wrote:
Alistan wrote:
National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board Act
Author: Yunus Moghadam, Path to Harmony
Sponsors:

An Act of the Federal Parliament to make provision for the creation of the National Halal Food Certification and Labeling Board

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Federal Parliament by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:


§1 – Creation of the Board in the Agriculture and Food ministry:

The job for the board is to label the edibles that are halal.

§2 – Duties:
To label edibles that are halal to the Muslim faith including
  1. Raw materials
  2. Processing Aid Ingredients
  3. Processing
  4. Sanitation chemicals
  5. Packaging


Here is the draft to the amendment of the member of the NIP party.

Hm, perhaps it would be more beneficial to mandate labeling of haram foods, rather than halal.


It won't, because the fringe fundamentalists would deem haram to minorities and that would upset them and the minorities will be upset themselves, its like calling themselves "goyim" or "infidel", it would imply a negative connotation.

Keep in mind that the population is 51% Muslim and 49% minorities

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:18 pm
by Skappola
Alistan wrote:
Skappola wrote:Hm, perhaps it would be more beneficial to mandate labeling of haram foods, rather than halal.


It won't, because the fringe fundamentalists would deem haram to minorities and that would upset them and the minorities will be upset themselves, its like calling themselves "goyim" or "infidel", it would imply a negative connotation.

Keep in mind that the population is 51% Muslim and 49% minorities

True, true. Well, I'll certainly sponsor your side, hopefully to keep further attempts at food bans from coming from the NIP.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:01 pm
by Victoriala
I see NP problem in this. Countries with a sizeable Muslim population already label Halal foods.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:32 pm
by Path to Harmony
Ok constitution ratified. Good job y'all.

Now there's room for people to put themselves forward for party positions.

The three positions are chairman, parliamentary leader, and whip.

You have 48 hours.