[NSGS] Alliance coalition thread

by **MERIZoC** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:52 pm

Alliance

by **Argentarino** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:22 pm

I doubt that this could ever become a governing coalition, but I do see this coalition serving as a possible safeguard against either the Communists or the Fascists from rising to power through the Parliament. Perhaps we agree to not include any members of those parties in the cabinet of whichever governing coalition is in power at the time?

by **Venatorium** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:24 pm

Argentarino wrote:I doubt that this could ever become a governing coalition, but I do see this coalition serving as a possible safeguard against either the Communists or the Fascists from rising to power through the Parliament. Perhaps we agree to not include any members of those parties in the cabinet of whichever governing coalition is in power at the time?

How then would you legally define a member of said parties?

by **Ravenflight** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:24 pm

I will fight facists. I will not necessarily fight communists unless i need to. This is my official statement.

by **Ravenflight** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:28 pm

Venatorium wrote:
Argentarino wrote:I doubt that this could ever become a governing coalition, but I do see this coalition serving as a possible safeguard against either the Communists or the Fascists from rising to power through the Parliament. Perhaps we agree to not include any members of those parties in the cabinet of whichever governing coalition is in power at the time?

How then would you legally define a member of said parties?

The word nutcase comes to mind

. Jks jks. Anyone who has harmful views which would damage the people or Dagmar.
I think firstly we take their militias

by **Atlanticatia** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:31 pm

I don't know if I could see a formal electoral coalition happening due to strong ideological differences, but I think we could unite to vote down a fascist government in a confidence vote.

by **Venatorium** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:32 pm

Ravenflight wrote:
Venatorium wrote:
How then would you legally define a member of said parties?

The word nutcase comes to mind . Jks jks. Anyone who has harmful views which would damage the people or Dagmar.
I think firstly we take their militias

How would you then define "harmful" and "damage"? Those are very general terms when it comes to this sort of thing. One could say the the policies of the Centrists are harmful.

by **Ravenflight** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:37 pm

Venatorium wrote:
Ravenflight wrote:The word nutcase comes to mind . Jks jks. Anyone who has harmful views which would damage the people or Dagmar.
I think firstly we take their militias

How would you then define "harmful" and "damage"? Those are very general terms when it comes to this sort of thing. One could say the the policies of the Centrists are harmful.

One could also say thst killing millions of Polish officers isn't harmful but it still doesnt make it true. I cojld claim i am King of Jewreich.

by **Venatorium** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:38 pm

Ravenflight wrote:
Venatorium wrote:
How would you then define "harmful" and "damage"? Those are very general terms when it comes to this sort of thing. One could say the the policies of the Centrists are harmful.

One could also say thst killing millions of Polish officers isn't harmful but it still doesnt make it true. I cojld claim i am King of Jewreich.

That implies that the Senate bases its regulations on an established moral code. Which code?

by **Tuthina** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:38 pm

Fascinating. Consider this a glorified tag.

Ravenflight wrote:
Venatorium wrote:
How would you then define "harmful" and "damage"? Those are very general terms when it comes to this sort of thing. One could say the the policies of the Centrists are harmful.

One could also say thst killing millions of Polish officers isn't harmful but it still doesnt make it true. I cojld claim i am King of Jewreich.

So what would be your personal definition of harmful and harmless?

by **Collatis** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:39 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:I don't know if I could see a formal electoral coalition happening due to strong ideological differences, but I think we could unite to vote down a fascist government in a confidence vote.

^This

I don't see a coalition as realistically possible. I don't even see one as necessarily desirable. Grand coalitions of the center did not work for Baltonia.

by **Ravenflight** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:39 pm

Venatorium wrote:
Ravenflight wrote:One could also say thst killing millions of Polish officers isn't harmful but it still doesnt make it true. I cojld claim i am King of Jewreich.

That implies that the Senate bases it's regulations on an established moral code. Which code?

Nope not a code...more of common sense. Such as supporting Genocide is bad.

by **Venatorium** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:41 pm

Ravenflight wrote:
Venatorium wrote:
That implies that the Senate bases it's regulations on an established moral code. Which code?

Nope not a code...more of common sense. Such as supporting Genocide is bad.

Common sense is relative. Hitler's common sense was to kill Jews. That's not to justify what he did, of course.

by **Tuthina** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:41 pm

Ravenflight wrote:
Venatorium wrote:
That implies that the Senate bases it's regulations on an established moral code. Which code?

Nope not a code...more of common sense. Such as supporting Genocide is bad.

Common sense is neither, though. Not to mention the fascist party/parties this thread is referring to seems not as interested in genocide.

by **Unnamed island state** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:43 pm

Fascism is despicable, and to stop it from gaining power those on the center-left have to come to terms with the fact that they cannot truly fight it without support from the non-fascist right.

by **Ravenflight** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:44 pm

Tuthina wrote:
Ravenflight wrote:Nope not a code...more of common sense. Such as supporting Genocide is bad.

Common sense is neither, though. Not to mention the fascist party/parties this thread is referring to seems not as interested in genocide.

*tags you in* night everyone

by **Venatorium** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:45 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:Fascism is despicable, and to stop it from gaining power those on the center-left have to come to terms with the fact that they cannot truly fight it without support from the non-fascist right.

Another Bolshevik pawn, I see. Shame...

by **Unnamed island state** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:48 pm

Venatorium wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:Fascism is despicable, and to stop it from gaining power those on the center-left have to come to terms with the fact that they cannot truly fight it without support from the non-fascist right.

Another Bolshevik pawn, I see. Shame...

Look who's talking.

by **Maklohi Vai** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:50 pm

"I will stand against communism, socialism, and all associated ideologies, until the day I die. This coalition is not feasible for politicians, but it is feasible as a platform to hold a discussion between sensible parties about how to stop the red menace."

by **Costa Fierro** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:51 pm

I have a bill banning paramilitaries ready and waiting.

by **Unnamed island state** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:52 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I have a bill banning paramilitaries ready and waiting.

Aye!

by **The True Teachers Union** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:52 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I have a bill banning paramilitaries ready and waiting.

Aye!

by **Ravenflight** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:53 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I have a bill banning paramilitaries ready and waiting.

You already have 4 votes...not really enough yet. XD

by **The Florists Union** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:53 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I have a bill banning paramilitaries ready and waiting.

Aye!

by **Havenburgh** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:53 pm

I will whole heartedly fight Fascists definitely. But not my comrades.

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