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Super-Llamaland wrote:Thief can steal mafia ability, shoot a townie, and also mafia can still shoot said townie. DAY ENDS IN ONE DAY.

Oh. Well, that clears things up. So both Mafia and Thief performed an execution last night.
Wait, if the role-blocking mafia is robbed by the thief, can the thief (also) roleblock somebody?

Hakons wrote:I don't have any role. If the roleblocker picks you, you get a tg saying you were roleblocker, regardless if you have an actual special role.

Well, assuming what you claim is true you are an innocent.
Except, it might not be.
Considering two out of the three people that I'm not are scum, the chances are higher that you are scum than that you are not. So, while I'm definitely not convinced enough to lynch you, what would be if you were scum....
Actually, considering there were two executions I don't think that there's anything to be found if this were a lie, on its own. Now you lying would mean that you want not to be lynched. But then, that's shared by all players...

ApplePieistan wrote:I protected Jon last night and the night before that. Maybe that will help.

I'm pretty sure that everybody still alive is quite aware of my innocence, regardless of their own or lack thereof.
But thanks, actually. Others died, so I guess I wasn't a target, but thanks.

The town can win in three ways, although all unlikely. No lynch with the mafia killing the theif. Same with having the theif kill mafia. Both of those require the killer to be lynched the following day. The second is also the only way for the theif to win if a nolynch is performed. The final way is having both the theif and the mafia miraculously kill each other.

Galnius wrote:The town can win in three ways, although all unlikely. No lynch with the mafia killing the theif. Same with having the theif kill mafia. Both of those require the killer to be lynched the following day. The second is also the only way for the theif to win if a nolynch is performed. The final way is having both the theif and the mafia miraculously kill each other.

Nolynch it is then, thanks Gallie.

Murovanka wrote:

Galnius wrote:The town can win in three ways, although all unlikely. No lynch with the mafia killing the theif. Same with having the theif kill mafia. Both of those require the killer to be lynched the following day. The second is also the only way for the theif to win if a nolynch is performed. The final way is having both the theif and the mafia miraculously kill each other.

Nolynch it is then, thanks Gallie.

Ways theif can win include a no lynch, kill mafia, lynch town.2 no lynches, one mafia kill one town kill. No lynch kill mafia whereas mafia kills town. Mafia can win in similar ways.

OK then, ##NOLYNCH

Come on peeps, no-lynch and end this, unless... unless a lynch benefits you then by all means vote to lynch someone

Not sure no-lynch was the best decision. If a townie is killed by the mafia, then that will leave 1 town, 1 mafia, and 1 thief. Town can't win then. Of course, lynching someone randomly would not be a good thing either. The town is in a tight spot right now.

Does this calm your worries, Harkons?

Galnius wrote:The town can win in three ways, although all unlikely. No lynch with the mafia killing the theif. Same with having the theif kill mafia. Both of those require the killer to be lynched the following day. The second is also the only way for the theif to win if a nolynch is performed. The final way is having both the theif and the mafia miraculously kill each other.

ApplePieistan wrote:Does this calm your worries, Harkons?

Galnius wrote:The town can win in three ways, although all unlikely. No lynch with the mafia killing the theif. Same with having the theif kill mafia. Both of those require the killer to be lynched the following day. The second is also the only way for the theif to win if a nolynch is performed. The final way is having both the theif and the mafia miraculously kill each other.

"Honestly, town is screwed majorly unless they get seriously lucky", says the ghost of Gal. "Im personally routing for the theif, as he/she isnt the one that killed me night one."

Hakons wrote:Not sure no-lynch was the best decision. If a townie is killed by the mafia, then that will leave 1 town, 1 mafia, and 1 thief. Town can't win then. Of course, lynching someone randomly would not be a good thing either. The town is in a tight spot right now.

We've already died a while ago.

The Jonathanian States wrote:

Hakons wrote:Not sure no-lynch was the best decision. If a townie is killed by the mafia, then that will leave 1 town, 1 mafia, and 1 thief. Town can't win then. Of course, lynching someone randomly would not be a good thing either. The town is in a tight spot right now.

We've already died a while ago.

That.

So either thief steals from and kills mafia, mafia kills thief, in which case two townies are left and they have to successfully kill the last scum. Or, mafia kills townie and then it's mafia, thief and a townie left. In the last case townie cannot win. Right?

Murovanka wrote:

The Jonathanian States wrote:We've already died a while ago.

That.

So either thief steals from and kills mafia, mafia kills thief, in which case two townies are left and they have to successfully kill the last scum. Or, mafia kills townie and then it's mafia, thief and a townie left. In the last case townie cannot win. Right?

Correct.
1 Either the townie would be lynched by the scum, one of the scums would be lynched, or nobody would.
2 If the townie is dead, obviously innocents lost.
3 If one of the scums is lynched then the other will be able to execute the townie that very night.
4 If nobody is lynched then either a scum or a townie are executed in the night, in which case return to 3 and 2, respectively, just a day later.

The Jonathanian States wrote:Correct.
1 Either the townie would be lynched by the scum, one of the scums would be lynched, or nobody would.
2 If the townie is dead, obviously innocents lost.
3 If one of the scums is lynched then the other will be able to execute the townie that very night.
4 If nobody is lynched then either a scum or a townie are executed in the night, in which case return to 3 and 2, respectively, just a day later.

But only one person can die at night? If the thief steals from mafia, thief can kill mafia but mafia cannot execute a killing action.

Murovanka wrote:

The Jonathanian States wrote:Correct.
1 Either the townie would be lynched by the scum, one of the scums would be lynched, or nobody would.
2 If the townie is dead, obviously innocents lost.
3 If one of the scums is lynched then the other will be able to execute the townie that very night.
4 If nobody is lynched then either a scum or a townie are executed in the night, in which case return to 3 and 2, respectively, just a day later.

But only one person can die at night? If the thief steals from mafia, thief can kill mafia but mafia cannot execute a killing action.

I thought the same, but:

Super-Llamaland wrote:Thief can steal mafia ability, shoot a townie, and also mafia can still shoot said townie. DAY ENDS IN ONE DAY.

That's weird, I thought it said in the rules that the person whose ability was stolen cannot use it.

Murovanka wrote:That's weird, I thought it said in the rules that the person whose ability was stolen cannot use it.

So I remembered as well.

So... when're we gonna wake up?