[NSG Senate] Golden Civics Party

[The Liberated Territories]

Protectionism hurts Dagmar's consumers.

Not necessarily. Manufacturing is the highest-paying job most people can obtain without a college degree, so if we allow our manufacturing to be outsourced via the liberalization of markets with developing nations, we are voluntarily destroying income. This destruction of income will hurt consumers more, as it will force them into low-paying, low-benefits jobs.

Our manufacturing? What manufacturing? I thought we were mostly agrarian nordic state shifting into a modern service society. Our strength is probably not manufacturing.

"Voluntarily destroying income." Lol. You know what is also destroying income? The rising prices caused by tariffs on their customers, which are primarily Dagmarians. What jobs? Our jobs that tariffs destroy? Please educate yourself first.

http://economics.about.com/cs/taxpolicy/a/tariffs_2.htm

[The Nihilistic view]

Would we support tariffs on foreign goods if they used unfair trade practices like currency manipulation, or paid their workers extremely low wages?

Unfair trade practices I would support, wages are not our concern unless they are breaking the law of the country concerned, that's not unfair that's the free market.

[Korena]

Hello there! I would like to join as a new member.

To be accepted into the RP (and the party), is there anything else besides posting an app on the NSG Senate Application Thread that I need to do?

[Kelinfort]

No, because putting a tariff on another country not only invites them to put a tariff back on us, but also doesn't help the workers, since they need economic liberalization in order to make a living, otherwise the factory shuts down and they are unemployed. A tariff on another country means a tax on their earnings, except without even a democratic consensus.

Don't we prioritize Dagmar instead of foreign countries?

Yes. And free trade does just that. Ever heard that trade benefits all nations regardless of whether they have any sort of advantages or not?

[Davincia]

Does anyone have advice as to how a balanced budget bill should turn out?

[The Liberated Territories]

Hello there! I would like to join as a new member.

To be accepted into the RP (and the party), is there anything else besides posting an app on the NSG Senate Application Thread that I need to do?

Welcome!

Nothing is necessary at the moment, however, you may want to explore a little bit. I think we've included some handy links on the first post of this thread, in addition you can find more links in the lobby and stuff.

[Korena]

Hello there! I would like to join as a new member.

To be accepted into the RP (and the party), is there anything else besides posting an app on the NSG Senate Application Thread that I need to do?

Welcome!

Nothing is necessary at the moment, however, you may want to explore a little bit. I think we've included some handy links on the first post of this thread, in addition you can find more links in the lobby and stuff.

Alright thank you!

[RyterBus]

As a reward for this party's devotion to the private sector, RyterBus has awarded two free ad spaces to the Golden Civics.

[GreatestBanks]

Don't we prioritize Dagmar instead of foreign countries?

Yes. And free trade does just that. Ever heard that trade benefits all nations regardless of whether they have any sort of advantages or not?

Eh, free trade between rich countries and poor countries mainly helps poor countries,

[GreatestBanks]

Not necessarily. Manufacturing is the highest-paying job most people can obtain without a college degree, so if we allow our manufacturing to be outsourced via the liberalization of markets with developing nations, we are voluntarily destroying income. This destruction of income will hurt consumers more, as it will force them into low-paying, low-benefits jobs.

Our manufacturing? What manufacturing? I thought we were mostly agrarian nordic state shifting into a modern service society. Our strength is probably not manufacturing.

"Voluntarily destroying income." Lol. You know what is also destroying income? The rising prices caused by tariffs on their customers, which are primarily Dagmarians. What jobs? Our jobs that tariffs destroy? Please educate yourself first.

http://economics.about.com/cs/taxpolicy/a/tariffs_2.htm

I thought we were a Nordic state like Denmark was in the 50s, where there was a good deal of manufacturing.
Nvm then

[The Nihilistic view]

Welcome!

Nothing is necessary at the moment, however, you may want to explore a little bit. I think we've included some handy links on the first post of this thread, in addition you can find more links in the lobby and stuff.

Alright thank you!

Fresh Meat! Welcome, we are part of the government at the moment so be sure to check that out. Means compromise at the moment though of course every new active member for us means less compromise we need to make. So jump in and get involved with as much as possible I find is the best way.

[The Liberated Territories]

Putting this back up there:

Party Platform

Economy:

The Golden Civics are a pro market party that prefers market solutions when they are available. We believe in strengthening property rights in order to ensure that the economy is strong and robust, and the government should intervene as little as realistically possible in the marketplace. We oppose any bailouts, subsidies, or tariffs that do not do anything to make our nation more prosperous or free. We support unilateral free trade, but we oppose free trade deals do nothing to advance free trade and only advance the interests of a certain industry or sector. The Golden Civics support private sector unions and believe collective bargaining should be between the business and union, not the government.

Welfare & Taxation:

While taxation is a necessary evil for any state to function, we believe that taxes should be low and simple. We support find alternative ways for the government to fund itself, such as a tax on land value instead of property or a tariff on immigration to raise revenue without significantly harming the economy. In addition, we support the implementation of a graduated negative income tax for the most impoverished, and a higher tax threshold for the poor. We also support a requirement to enroll in a job training program or an education program in order to collect government benefits.

Finance:

The Golden Civics believe the government should set up savings accounts for government agencies so they can save excess amounts of money for the future. Likewise, we believe in establishing a Sovereign Wealth Fund and an Emergency Fund to protect against the unforeseeable. When a budget surplus occurs, that the extra money should either go in the Sovereign Wealth Fund, Emergency Fund, or back to the tax payers. Finally, we support the creation of a Swiss-like "debt brake" in order to control government spending so that the government won't dip into these emergency funds and only spend what money it can gain from it's revenues.

Social & Domestic Policy:

The Golden Civics are for individual rights and believe the government should not interfere in the personal lives of people as much as possible. We support Free Speech and are opposed to censorship in all cases. We support the full legalization of cannabis and marijuana. We also believe in decriminalizing sex-work and prostitution. While both proponents and opponents of abortion are in good faith, we believe that this issue can only be resolved if the government is taken out of it's dictation. Finally, we believe this right guarantees the individual defend themselves from harm, including the right to use lethal force if it requires it.

Immigration Policy:

A regulated border policy is a necessity for any state to logically control it's sovereignty. We support deporting immigrants who commit crimes or otherwise disrupt the harmony of our society. That being said, in order to implement these principles we understand that there should be a simple, non-complicated path to citizenship, and that illegal immigrants should be treated as unwanted guests and not felons. Finally, we endorse policies that require immigrants to pay into the system before taking anything out, and that citizenship should be a benefit to those who prove their hard work and loyalty.

Defense & Foreign Policy:

Our party favors peace over war, and prefers to make friends and trade partners with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We support keeping a small well rounded military for defense.

Healthcare and Education:

The Golden Civics endorses the option that makes education and healthcare the most affordable and widespread to all. We believe that adding a competitive element to education and healthcare would increase individual decision making and therefore reduce costs across the board. Parents should have the right to send their kids to whatever school they want and how they want to educate their children. Likewise, we believe that the opinion of the patient - and not a bureaucrat - should be the final decision in healthcare, and that individuals should be free to choose any healthcare providers from within the current system.

Justice and Law:

The Golden Civics believe in a strict right to privacy, and are against mass public state surveillance and national DNA databases of our citizens. We support the idea of innocence until proven guilty, and we support habeas corpus and Miranda rights. We support the idea of a fair trial and the right to a lawyer. We are opposed to eminent domain, unwarranted search and seizures, and the militarization of the police force.

Energy and the Environment:

The Golden Civics support an All-Of-The-Above energy policy. We oppose public subsidies to the energy sector, believing that the energy market should compete fairly. We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that some parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.

Can I have a motion to adopt this retooling of the platform?

Also, would you guys be opposed to joining Liberal International or the International Alliance of Libertarian Parties? A vote might be worth it.

[The Nihilistic view]

Putting this back up there:

Party Platform

Economy:

The Golden Civics are a pro market party that prefers market solutions when they are available. We believe in strengthening property rights in order to ensure that the economy is strong and robust, and the government should intervene as little as realistically possible in the marketplace. We oppose any bailouts, subsidies, or tariffs that do not do anything to make our nation more prosperous or free. We support unilateral free trade, but we oppose free trade deals do nothing to advance free trade and only advance the interests of a certain industry or sector. The Golden Civics support private sector unions and believe collective bargaining should be between the business and union, not the government.

Welfare & Taxation:

While taxation is a necessary evil for any state to function, we believe that taxes should be low and simple. We support find alternative ways for the government to fund itself, such as a tax on land value instead of property or a tariff on immigration to raise revenue without significantly harming the economy. In addition, we support the implementation of a graduated negative income tax for the most impoverished, and a higher tax threshold for the poor. We also support a requirement to enroll in a job training program or an education program in order to collect government benefits.

Finance:

The Golden Civics believe the government should set up savings accounts for government agencies so they can save excess amounts of money for the future. Likewise, we believe in establishing a Sovereign Wealth Fund and an Emergency Fund to protect against the unforeseeable. When a budget surplus occurs, that the extra money should either go in the Sovereign Wealth Fund, Emergency Fund, or back to the tax payers. Finally, we support the creation of a Swiss-like "debt brake" in order to control government spending so that the government won't dip into these emergency funds and only spend what money it can gain from it's revenues.

Social & Domestic Policy:

The Golden Civics are for individual rights and believe the government should not interfere in the personal lives of people as much as possible. We support Free Speech and are opposed to censorship in all cases. We support the full legalization of cannabis and marijuana. We also believe in decriminalizing sex-work and prostitution. While both proponents and opponents of abortion are in good faith, we believe that this issue can only be resolved if the government is taken out of it's dictation. Finally, we believe this right guarantees the individual defend themselves from harm, including the right to use lethal force if it requires it.

Immigration Policy:

A regulated border policy is a necessity for any state to logically control it's sovereignty. We support deporting immigrants who commit crimes or otherwise disrupt the harmony of our society. That being said, in order to implement these principles we understand that there should be a simple, non-complicated path to citizenship, and that illegal immigrants should be treated as unwanted guests and not felons. Finally, we endorse policies that require immigrants to pay into the system before taking anything out, and that citizenship should be a benefit to those who prove their hard work and loyalty.

Defense & Foreign Policy:

Our party favors peace over war, and prefers to make friends and trade partners with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We support keeping a small well rounded military for defense.

Healthcare and Education:

The Golden Civics endorses the option that makes education and healthcare the most affordable and widespread to all. We believe that adding a competitive element to education and healthcare would increase individual decision making and therefore reduce costs across the board. Parents should have the right to send their kids to whatever school they want and how they want to educate their children. Likewise, we believe that the opinion of the patient - and not a bureaucrat - should be the final decision in healthcare, and that individuals should be free to choose any healthcare providers from within the current system.

Justice and Law:

The Golden Civics believe in a strict right to privacy, and are against mass public state surveillance and national DNA databases of our citizens. We support the idea of innocence until proven guilty, and we support habeas corpus and Miranda rights. We support the idea of a fair trial and the right to a lawyer. We are opposed to eminent domain, unwarranted search and seizures, and the militarization of the police force.

Energy and the Environment:

The Golden Civics support an All-Of-The-Above energy policy. We oppose public subsidies to the energy sector, believing that the energy market should compete fairly. We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that some parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.

Can I have a motion to adopt this retooling of the platform?

Also, would you guys be opposed to joining Liberal International or the International Alliance of Libertarian Parties? A vote might be worth it.

I would have the bullet points underneath still, walls of text are I find bad for getting points across with advertising. Because that is essentially what a platform is, something for people looking to join the senate and read to decide if they will join a party.

[The Liberated Territories]

Putting this back up there:

Party Platform

Economy:

The Golden Civics are a pro market party that prefers market solutions when they are available. We believe in strengthening property rights in order to ensure that the economy is strong and robust, and the government should intervene as little as realistically possible in the marketplace. We oppose any bailouts, subsidies, or tariffs that do not do anything to make our nation more prosperous or free. We support unilateral free trade, but we oppose free trade deals do nothing to advance free trade and only advance the interests of a certain industry or sector. The Golden Civics support private sector unions and believe collective bargaining should be between the business and union, not the government.

Welfare & Taxation:

While taxation is a necessary evil for any state to function, we believe that taxes should be low and simple. We support find alternative ways for the government to fund itself, such as a tax on land value instead of property or a tariff on immigration to raise revenue without significantly harming the economy. In addition, we support the implementation of a graduated negative income tax for the most impoverished, and a higher tax threshold for the poor. We also support a requirement to enroll in a job training program or an education program in order to collect government benefits.

Finance:

The Golden Civics believe the government should set up savings accounts for government agencies so they can save excess amounts of money for the future. Likewise, we believe in establishing a Sovereign Wealth Fund and an Emergency Fund to protect against the unforeseeable. When a budget surplus occurs, that the extra money should either go in the Sovereign Wealth Fund, Emergency Fund, or back to the tax payers. Finally, we support the creation of a Swiss-like "debt brake" in order to control government spending so that the government won't dip into these emergency funds and only spend what money it can gain from it's revenues.

Social & Domestic Policy:

The Golden Civics are for individual rights and believe the government should not interfere in the personal lives of people as much as possible. We support Free Speech and are opposed to censorship in all cases. We support the full legalization of cannabis and marijuana. We also believe in decriminalizing sex-work and prostitution. While both proponents and opponents of abortion are in good faith, we believe that this issue can only be resolved if the government is taken out of it's dictation. Finally, we believe this right guarantees the individual defend themselves from harm, including the right to use lethal force if it requires it.

Immigration Policy:

A regulated border policy is a necessity for any state to logically control it's sovereignty. We support deporting immigrants who commit crimes or otherwise disrupt the harmony of our society. That being said, in order to implement these principles we understand that there should be a simple, non-complicated path to citizenship, and that illegal immigrants should be treated as unwanted guests and not felons. Finally, we endorse policies that require immigrants to pay into the system before taking anything out, and that citizenship should be a benefit to those who prove their hard work and loyalty.

Defense & Foreign Policy:

Our party favors peace over war, and prefers to make friends and trade partners with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We support keeping a small well rounded military for defense.

Healthcare and Education:

The Golden Civics endorses the option that makes education and healthcare the most affordable and widespread to all. We believe that adding a competitive element to education and healthcare would increase individual decision making and therefore reduce costs across the board. Parents should have the right to send their kids to whatever school they want and how they want to educate their children. Likewise, we believe that the opinion of the patient - and not a bureaucrat - should be the final decision in healthcare, and that individuals should be free to choose any healthcare providers from within the current system.

Justice and Law:

The Golden Civics believe in a strict right to privacy, and are against mass public state surveillance and national DNA databases of our citizens. We support the idea of innocence until proven guilty, and we support habeas corpus and Miranda rights. We support the idea of a fair trial and the right to a lawyer. We are opposed to eminent domain, unwarranted search and seizures, and the militarization of the police force.

Energy and the Environment:

The Golden Civics support an All-Of-The-Above energy policy. We oppose public subsidies to the energy sector, believing that the energy market should compete fairly. We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that some parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.

Can I have a motion to adopt this retooling of the platform?

Also, would you guys be opposed to joining Liberal International or the International Alliance of Libertarian Parties? A vote might be worth it.

I would have the bullet points underneath still, walls of text are I find bad for getting points across with advertising. Because that is essentially what a platform is, something for people looking to join the senate and read to decide if they will join a party.

I dislike the bullets, because it makes too many outright stances (which may be misconstrued as promises) instead of providing a general blueprint or overview of the party. Most people who join a party do not necessarily agree with all of it's bullet points, and if we explicitly say too much on our platform, we may regret it in the end. Also, lots of parties have small texts under their policy positions, these are fairly straightforward and are easy to read.

[Korena]

Alright thank you!

Fresh Meat! Welcome, we are part of the government at the moment so be sure to check that out. Means compromise at the moment though of course every new active member for us means less compromise we need to make. So jump in and get involved with as much as possible I find is the best way.

Alright thank you for the welcome!

[Zurkerx]

Fresh Meat! Welcome, we are part of the government at the moment so be sure to check that out. Means compromise at the moment though of course every new active member for us means less compromise we need to make. So jump in and get involved with as much as possible I find is the best way.

Alright thank you for the welcome!

Yes, welcome to the party!

[Planita]

The SDP would like the government's support for the Social Protection Act.

[The Liberated Territories]

I am not sure if I can start supporting that program, the effects of SS would likely be able to debase the currency too quickly, and ruin the minimal state status that we have now. Do we want an average "minimum wage" of $20 USD now, or kill that opportunity and have to implement a real minimum wage down the road. I know what i prefer.

The moral argument is that people are smarter and wiser than the government on how to spend their own money.

[Temacht]

So the senate has adjourned until such time as committees may be formed. What role are we gonna play in these committees?

[The Liberated Territories]

A British libertarian (a rare breed) deconstructs the police state: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxxBdVh9qbc

[The Liberated Territories]

So the senate has adjourned until such time as committees may be formed. What role are we gonna play in these committees?

Committees? Which committees?

[Red Party]

Can I get some sponsors?

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Dagmari Mandatory Training Act

Author: Author: Lenin Chouman (RSP)
Sponsors:
An act to officially make it mandatory to have 6 months of military training once you turn 18 years of age

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Preamble: This act is to insure the safety of our great nation by making everyone without a disability preform 6 months of military training once the reach the age of 18.

Section 1: Women Women may be allowed to complete 3 months if they would like, this is to make sure that Women can take care of the children in the household.

Section 2: Logistics A military truck will pick up all participants at 8:00AM sharp. They will be held to the utmost expectations in the way they dress and present themselves.

Section 3: Rations While in the camp they will receive a 1 Chocolate bar, 6 scrambled eggs, 2 oranges and a water bottle.

Section 4: Exceptions All Men and Women who are mentally disabled are not required to train. Pregnant Women are not required to train.

[Davincia]

Can I get some sponsors?

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Dagmari Mandatory Training Act

Author: Author: Lenin Chouman (RSP)
Sponsors:
An act to officially make it mandatory to have 6 months of military training once you turn 18 years of age

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Preamble: This act is to insure the safety of our great nation by making everyone without a disability preform 6 months of military training once the reach the age of 18.

Section 1: Women Women may be allowed to complete 3 months if they would like, this is to make sure that Women can take care of the children in the household.

Section 2: Logistics A military truck will pick up all participants at 8:00AM sharp. They will be held to the utmost expectations in the way they dress and present themselves.

Section 3: Rations While in the camp they will receive a 1 Chocolate bar, 6 scrambled eggs, 2 oranges and a water bottle.

Section 4: Exceptions All Men and Women who are mentally disabled are not required to train. Pregnant Women are not required to train.

Why would a party of libertarians sponsor this bill? Please don't take that personally.

[Temacht]

So the senate has adjourned until such time as committees may be formed. What role are we gonna play in these committees?

Committees? Which committees?

Dmitri walks in. He holds several papers

"Alright, the nominations are in. On behalf of the Prime Minister, Leader of the Opposition, parties not in the opposition or government, I will be posting what they sent me. Here as they follow (assume their senator's names):

Prime Minister:
i. Committee on Appropriations—Ainin, Ark, Kelin
ii. Committee on Science, Technology and Research—Coconut, OT, Bleck
iii. Committee on International Relations—Sarian, Ikania, Merizoc
iv. Committee on Intelligence and Armed Forces—Soviet Canuckistan, OT, Nihil
v. Committee on Home Affairs—Costa, Nihil, Merizoc
vi. Committee on Commerce, Financial Affairs, and Banking— Coconut, Ark, Kelin
vii. Committee on Judicial Affairs and Oversight—Ainin, Great Nepal, MV
viii. Committee on Health— Nova Anglicana, Soviet Canuckistan, MV
ix. Committee on Education and Labour—Britanno 2, Valluto, Great Nepal
x. Committee on Social policy and Environment—Merizoc, Soviet Canuckistan, Ikania
xi. Committee on Folketingary Bills—Dendart, Sarian, Nihil

Leader of the Opposition:
Committee on Appropriations: Lykens, Glasgia, Tuthina
Committee on Science, Technology and Research: Tsuken, Atlantica, Jordkloden
Committee on International Relations: Beta Test, Kazirstan, Skyviolia
Committee on Intelligence and Armed Forces: New Zepuha, Bojikami, Diopolis
Committee on Home Affairs: New Zepuha, Tsuken, Diopolis
Committee on Commerce, Financial Affairs, and Banking: Tsuken, Skyviolia, Eol Sha
Committee on Judicial Affairs and Oversight: Lykens, Skyviolia, Tuthina
Committee on Health: New Zepuha, Osea 767, New Waterford
Committee on Education and Labour: Atlantica, Malgrave, Martilia
Committee on Social policy and Environment: Beta Test, Osea 767, The New Sea Territory
Committee on Folketingary Bills: Lykens, The Crimson Sausage, Memell

Social Democratic Party:
Committee on Appropriations: Atlanticatia, Dejanic
Committee on Science, Technology, and Research: San Jose Guayabal, Victoriala
Committee on International Relations: Argentarino, Arglorand
Committee on Intelligence and Armed Forces: Argentarino, Wolfmanne
Committee on Home Affairs: Atlanticatia, Hatay
Committee on Commerce, Financial Affairs, and Banking: Collatis, Wolfmanne
Committee on Judicial Affairs and Oversight: Not a Bang but a Whimper, Nearly Finland
Committee on Health: Toggrhan, Dejanic
Committee on Education and Labour: San Jose Guayabal, Collatis
Committee on Social Policy and Environment: Atlanticatia, Collatis
Committee on Folketingary Bills: Not a Bang but a Whimper, Wallenburg

Viking Party Committee Assignments

Committee on Appropriations - Heraklea-
Committee on Science, Technology and Research - Anakletos
Committee on International Relations - Oneracon
Committee on Intelligence and Armed Forces - Ravenflight
Committee on Home Affairs - Iskalia
Committee on Commerce, Financial Affairs, and Banking - Cuprum
Committee on Judicial Affairs and Oversight - Kelnjorvik
Committee on Health - Varjager
Committee on Education and Labour - Oneracon
Committee on Social policy and Environment - Ravenflight
Committee on Folketingary Bills - Heraklea-

"So, as it will follow, all of the committees will have nine members; everyone will appointed as such since the deadline for others to submit has passed."

(The math didn't work out so it's being done this way)

[The Liberated Territories]

Can I get some sponsors?

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Dagmari Mandatory Training Act

Author: Author: Lenin Chouman (RSP)
Sponsors:
An act to officially make it mandatory to have 6 months of military training once you turn 18 years of age

---

Preamble: This act is to insure the safety of our great nation by making everyone without a disability preform 6 months of military training once the reach the age of 18.

Section 1: Women Women may be allowed to complete 3 months if they would like, this is to make sure that Women can take care of the children in the household.

Section 2: Logistics A military truck will pick up all participants at 8:00AM sharp. They will be held to the utmost expectations in the way they dress and present themselves.

Section 3: Rations While in the camp they will receive a 1 Chocolate bar, 6 scrambled eggs, 2 oranges and a water bottle.

Section 4: Exceptions All Men and Women who are mentally disabled are not required to train. Pregnant Women are not required to train.

Why would a party of libertarians sponsor this bill? Please don't take that personally.

The GC isn't purely libertarian, we are rather a broad camp of the socially tolerant "right wing," if such a label could describe us.

That being said, I think it would be hard to find anyone here that would sponsor that bill.