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Postby Davincia » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:50 pm

I need some assistance with a bill I've been planning for about a week now. Can someone find me the current bill format?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:55 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna wrote:Since we're playing a resource rich scandinavian country we can afford some leftism though.

Also you should apply.

Gah, you make life too easy. We should have a poor country, with only steel, oil, and coal and no industry that has to be built from the ground-up.
How do I apply?


From what I can tell, I think you'd probably fit better in the Right Party than the Golden Civics.

Right Party platform:

viewtopic.php?p=26615234#p26615234

Golden Civics platform:

viewtopic.php?p=26491809#p26491809
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Postby Unnamed island state » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:57 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Gah, you make life too easy. We should have a poor country, with only steel, oil, and coal and no industry that has to be built from the ground-up.
How do I apply?


From what I can tell, I think you'd probably fit better in the Right Party than the Golden Civics.

Right Party platform:

viewtopic.php?p=26615234#p26615234

Golden Civics platform:

viewtopic.php?p=26491809#p26491809


The problem is we don't really have a platform yet.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:58 pm

Davincia wrote:I need some assistance with a bill I've been planning for about a week now. Can someone find me the current bill format?

I posted it at the top of page five in the new coffee shop.
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Postby Coltpower » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:59 pm

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:30 pm

Kelinfort wrote:Overall, the platform looks pretty solid. Good work, TLT. A few suggestions:

but we oppose free trade deals that are unfair and benefit one party over another.


I'm worried this is a little broad. I'm just concerned economic nationalists could construe this as a statement that favors protecting Dagmari industry and the like.

Secondly, you state we oppose bailouts, tariffs, subsidies, and the like unless they support a more prosperous and free society. What qualifies any of the above into the free and prosperous category?

Finally, I want us to stake a little stronger stance on social issues. We should mention some issues by name, as we do in taxes and privacy.

Overall, it looks excellent and you did a great job. I just want some clarification.


I understand, and I've reworded it a little.

"We support unilateral free trade, but we oppose free trade deals do nothing to advance free trade and only advance the interests of a certain industry or sector."

This basically means that we won't support any free trade deals that say, give Dagmar entrance into another nation's industry but also attach clauses that put certain restrictions on the bill, OR are more like ghost riders putting additional clauses that grant such industry subsidies or whatever. This is unlikely to happen in Dagmar though.

Again, this can be decided by the party itself. I for example, think that a "tariff" on immigration is hugely beneficial to the nation (especially since immigration is one of those things where it can be construed to be apart of the national defense), while a tariff anywhere else may not be. Whats more, is that any support for tariffs and the like would be on a case by case basis, I am going to add a part to the platform where we believe that the nation should work to remove pre-existing tariffs by other nations diplomatically instead of adding new ones on top of that for retaliation.

I've expanded the social issues part to include support for cannabis, medical marijuana, and prostitution decriminalization. Due to the controversial nature of abortion in the libertarian movement, I've added a clause that supports the government getting out of the issue entirely, which is the same stance the LPUSA takes.
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Postby Davincia » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:46 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:
Davincia wrote:I need some assistance with a bill I've been planning for about a week now. Can someone find me the current bill format?

I posted it at the top of page five in the new coffee shop.

Thanks!
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:16 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna wrote:Since we're playing a resource rich scandinavian country we can afford some leftism though.

Also you should apply.

Gah, you make life too easy. We should have a poor country, with only steel, oil, and coal and no industry that has to be built from the ground-up.
How do I apply?

Hello again. :)

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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:36 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Gah, you make life too easy. We should have a poor country, with only steel, oil, and coal and no industry that has to be built from the ground-up.
How do I apply?

Hello again. :)

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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:38 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:Hello again. :)

Hello chap

Yeah I think you found your rightful party. Anyone else is too moderate for you.
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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:40 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Hello chap

Yeah I think you found your rightful party. Anyone else is too moderate for you.

Idk.
I don't support free trade, I'm pro-labor, I'm pro infrastructure spending, pro-welfare reform, I'm for lowering taxation rates, and jingoistic foreign policy, and anti-coporate welfare, although I would consider myself ''pro-business'' I'd consider myself centre-right
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:42 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:Yeah I think you found your rightful party. Anyone else is too moderate for you.

Idk.
I don't support free trade, I'm pro-labor, I'm pro infrastructure spending, pro-welfare reform, I'm for lowering taxation rates, and jingoistic foreign policy, and anti-coporate welfare, although I would consider myself ''pro-business'' I'd consider myself centre-right

Do you support universal healthcare?

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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:42 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Idk.
I don't support free trade, I'm pro-labor, I'm pro infrastructure spending, pro-welfare reform, I'm for lowering taxation rates, and jingoistic foreign policy, and anti-coporate welfare, although I would consider myself ''pro-business'' I'd consider myself centre-right

Do you support universal healthcare?

Not in the sense that the government has nationalized the insurance industry and forcibly distributes healthcare to people.
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:45 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:Do you support universal healthcare?

Not in the sense that the government has nationalized the insurance industry and forcibly distributes healthcare to people.

So what do you support.

Also ObamaCare ain't socialist.

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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:46 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Not in the sense that the government has nationalized the insurance industry and forcibly distributes healthcare to people.

So what do you support.

Also ObamaCare ain't socialist.

I said what I support before.

I never mentioned Obamacare, Obamacare is not part of this subject. You asked me whether I supported Universal Healthcare (I assume you mean a single-payer, fully government controlled system), I do not.
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:48 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:So what do you support.

Also ObamaCare ain't socialist.

I said what I support before.

I never mentioned Obamacare, Obamacare is not part of this subject. You asked me whether I supported Universal Healthcare (I assume you mean a single-payer, fully government controlled system), I do not.

Okay what healthcare system do you support then? I thought you were implying ObamaCare with the "forcibly distributes healthcare to people" thing. I think am mistaken.

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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:49 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:I said what I support before.

I never mentioned Obamacare, Obamacare is not part of this subject. You asked me whether I supported Universal Healthcare (I assume you mean a single-payer, fully government controlled system), I do not.

Okay what healthcare system do you support then? I thought you were implying ObamaCare with the "forcibly distributes healthcare to people" thing. I think am mistaken.

It depends what country I am in. In the U.S., I'd reform it to be more market-oriented as it was in the 1950s.
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:50 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:Okay what healthcare system do you support then? I thought you were implying ObamaCare with the "forcibly distributes healthcare to people" thing. I think am mistaken.

It depends what country I am in. In the U.S., I'd reform it to be more market-oriented as it was in the 1950s.

Since I hate the idea I think you you probably belong here. Although our pro-gay stance might discourage you.
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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:51 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:It depends what country I am in. In the U.S., I'd reform it to be more market-oriented as it was in the 1950s.

Since I hate the idea I think you you probably belong here.

Government involvement in the economy is inherently destructive m8. Obamacare is not socialist, but it is interventionist economically. It is the state enforcing a penalty of purchasing health insurance. This has led to the massive increase of prices and millions of plans being cancelled due to not complying with Obamacare regulations.
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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:53 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:It depends what country I am in. In the U.S., I'd reform it to be more market-oriented as it was in the 1950s.

Since I hate the idea I think you you probably belong here. Although our pro-gay stance might discourage you.

It does. Do you have any more culturally conservative parties? Or is every party socially liberal?
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:53 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:Since I hate the idea I think you you probably belong here.

Government involvement in the economy is inherently destructive m8. Obamacare is not socialist, but it is interventionist economically. It is the state enforcing a penalty of purchasing health insurance. This has led to the massive increase of prices and millions of plans being cancelled due to not complying with Obamacare regulations.

I would like to respond that, but this is not the place (its the party thread). Anyways I hope you have a great stay here and help defend us against the commies.

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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:54 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Government involvement in the economy is inherently destructive m8. Obamacare is not socialist, but it is interventionist economically. It is the state enforcing a penalty of purchasing health insurance. This has led to the massive increase of prices and millions of plans being cancelled due to not complying with Obamacare regulations.

I would like to respond that, but this is not the place (its the party thread). Anyways I hope you have a great stay here and help defend us against the commies.

Ok, let's debate in telegrams if you want. I'll stay here I guess and launch a coup d'etat against the commies.
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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:54 pm

How do I register as a senator? (I've already done the most basic registration that affiliates myself with Golden Civics)
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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:57 pm

GreatestBanks wrote:
Planita wrote:I would like to respond that, but this is not the place (its the party thread). Anyways I hope you have a great stay here and help defend us against the commies.

Ok, let's debate in telegrams if you want. I'll stay here I guess and launch a coup d'etat against the commies.

Well I really can't because I am supposed to be working :/ and I am feeling under the weather. Also we formed a coalition with the Right Party and the Centre Bloc to keep out the unholy alliance of communists and fascists
GreatestBanks wrote:How do I register as a senator? (I've already done the most basic registration that affiliates myself with Golden Civics)
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Oh if you submitted your application and they approve it, you are automatically in. You can post on the Senate Chamber and whatnot. I recommend making a senator bio first as well.
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Postby GreatestBanks » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:58 pm

Planita wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:Ok, let's debate in telegrams if you want. I'll stay here I guess and launch a coup d'etat against the commies.

Well I really can't because I am supposed to be working :/ and I am feeling under the weather. Also we formed a coalition with the Right Party and the Centre Bloc to keep out the unholy alliance of communists and fascists
GreatestBanks wrote:How do I register as a senator? (I've already done the most basic registration that affiliates myself with Golden Civics)
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Oh if you submitted your application and they approve it, you are automatically in. You can post on the Senate Chamber and whatnot. I recommend making a senator bio first as well.

Link me to where I can make a senate bio please.

We gotta kick the commies&fascists out of government. They are too authoritarian.
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