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Postby Yttribia » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:38 am

I have the results of the voting:
Calaverde Language Rights Act of 2015
AYE - 26
NAY - 14
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Child Protection Act
AYE - 32
NAY - 7
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Public Broadcaster Act
AYE - 26
NAY - 10
ABSTAIN - 6

Act to Legalize and Regulate Cannabis
AYE - 25
NAY - 15
ABSTAIN - 1

Calaverde Homeless Act
AYE - 21
NAY - 14
ABSTAIN - 8
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Postby Yttribia » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:40 am

"Up next is the Sixth Amendment to the GEA proposed by the Right Honourable Mr. Diaz of the LDP."
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Postby Arkolon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:01 am

"Oh, hey, this again!"
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Postby Electrum » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:07 am

Point of order -- Aren't we supposed to go by the queue as established by the speaker over here?

[though now that debate has started, I think it would be unwise to change bills now]
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The Sarian
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Postby The Sarian » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:20 am

Yttribia wrote:"Up next is the Sixth Amendment to the GEA proposed by the Right Honourable Mr. Diaz of the LDP."

"Point of Order, Mr Deputy Speaker, Mr Diaz is merely Honourable, not Right Honourable, though I'm sure he appreciated the temporary upgrade."
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:27 am

The Sarian wrote:
Yttribia wrote:"Up next is the Sixth Amendment to the GEA proposed by the Right Honourable Mr. Diaz of the LDP."

"Point of Order, Mr Deputy Speaker, Mr Diaz is merely Honourable, not Right Honourable, though I'm sure he appreciated the temporary upgrade."

"I don't believe we've established anything that says we can't call him that, though correct me if I'm wrong."

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Postby Arkolon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:35 am

Merizoc wrote:
The Sarian wrote:"Point of Order, Mr Deputy Speaker, Mr Diaz is merely Honourable, not Right Honourable, though I'm sure he appreciated the temporary upgrade."

"I don't believe we've established anything that says we can't call him that, though correct me if I'm wrong."

"Tradition and convention, I believe, Mr Tecu."
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:27 am

Arkolon wrote:
Merizoc wrote:"I don't believe we've established anything that says we can't call him that, though correct me if I'm wrong."

"Tradition and convention, I believe, Mr Tecu."

"Which means jack shit. Hi, I'm Esteban."
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Postby Arkolon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:29 am

Ikania wrote:
Arkolon wrote:"Tradition and convention, I believe, Mr Tecu."

"Which means jack shit. Hi, I'm Esteban."

OOC: Here you go again.

"Hello. Let me guess, want a drink, too?"
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:32 am

Arkolon wrote:
Ikania wrote:"Which means jack shit. Hi, I'm Esteban."

OOC: Here you go again.

"Hello. Let me guess, want a drink, too?"

"No, I'm quite alright. Apologies for my rudeness, I figured it was a good way to make an entrance. You're the guy that makes Tintin, right?"
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Postby The Sarian » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:36 am

Electrum wrote:Point of order -- Aren't we supposed to go by the queue as established by the speaker over here?

[though now that debate has started, I think it would be unwise to change bills now]

Ms Zhang is right, this bill is not a government bill (to the best of my knowledge), nor a bill nominated by the Official Opposition and therefore should be behind all other Private Members Bills.
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Postby Lykens » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:07 am

Electrum wrote:Point of order -- Aren't we supposed to go by the queue as established by the speaker over here?

[though now that debate has started, I think it would be unwise to change bills now]

Kenneth rolled his eyes and wished he had a glass mug of apple cider. Apple cider always calmed him down, and a glass mug did wonders to the back of a head of a fool.

"I am quite glad the Right Honorable Leader of the Opposition can read. Because it says 'queue' and not 'This week's schedule', I'm sure she can gather that the bills listed are not necessarily the bills going to debate and vote this week."
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Merizoc wrote:"I don't believe we've established anything that says we can't call him that, though correct me if I'm wrong."

"Tradition and convention, I believe, Mr Tecu."

"Yes, Mister Chair-boner. Traditions and conventions that past members of your party enjoyed bending and bringing close to the breaking point."
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Electrum wrote:Point of order -- Aren't we supposed to go by the queue as established by the speaker over here?

[though now that debate has started, I think it would be unwise to change bills now]

Ms Zhang is right, this bill is not a government bill (to the best of my knowledge), nor a bill nominated by the Official Opposition and therefore should be behind all other Private Members Bills.

?Madam President, your lack of knowledge regarding the status of the bill is quiet unfortunate, but I assure you, it is a government bill."
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Postby The New World Oceania » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:25 am

"Motion to remove the stick out from up the Honorable Gentleman's ass."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:05 am

Yttribia wrote:"Up next is the Sixth Amendment to the GEA proposed by the Right Honourable Mr. Diaz of the LDP."

"I believe that this bill is ultimately detrimental to the expansion of Calverde into neighboring territories. How can the future president plan expansion if he has to worry about impeachment. This bill is unacceptable, we need a strong leader not a weaker one. That is why I believe that it is in our best interest to expand the power of the Executive branch of government, not to limit it.

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Postby Lykens » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:07 am

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Yttribia wrote:"Up next is the Sixth Amendment to the GEA proposed by the Right Honourable Mr. Diaz of the LDP."

"I believe that this bill is ultimately detrimental to the expansion of Calverde into neighboring territories. How can the future president plan expansion if he has to worry about impeachment. This bill is unacceptable, we need a strong leader not a weaker one. That is why I believe that it is in our best interest to expand the power of the Executive branch of government, not to limit it.

"I'd like to remind the Honorable member that the majority of executive power is exercised by the Prime Minister, and that no one would want to expand Calaverde beyond its already sufficient borders."
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Postby Ainin » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:15 am

Electrum wrote:Point of order -- Aren't we supposed to go by the queue as established by the speaker over here?

"Overruled."

The New World Oceania wrote:"Motion to remove the stick out from up the Honorable Gentleman's ass."

"Which honourable member is the member for Masalbhumi referring to?"
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:51 am

(OOC: I haven’t a clue what constituency Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi represents, so I’ve had to resort to using his Senator’s surname.)

“Motion to defenestrate the Honourable Mr Rhodes, Mr Speaker.”
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Postby Ikania » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:11 am

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Yttribia wrote:"Up next is the Sixth Amendment to the GEA proposed by the Right Honourable Mr. Diaz of the LDP."

"I believe that this bill is ultimately detrimental to the expansion of Calverde into neighboring territories. How can the future president plan expansion if he has to worry about impeachment. This bill is unacceptable, we need a strong leader not a weaker one. That is why I believe that it is in our best interest to expand the power of the Executive branch of government, not to limit it.

"I'm concerned about that statement, sir. It seems a bit imperialistic, I don't think many of us wish for expansion, if anything we're shedding loose skin right now..."

Esteban quietly chuckles to himself.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:15 am

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"Expansion is the way to go for Calverde, and we must not let the Adrians succeed in their independence reforms. They are a Province of Calverde. And, that is what they should remain as a province. This bill damages the capability of the Executive Branch of government, in a time where militant Adrians are threatening the territorial integrity of the Empire. Now is a time when the Executive branch of government should be stronger not weaker.

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Postby Lykens » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:18 am

"Can the Honorable Gentleman point me to which piece of legislation that creates provinces, and the one that makes the President oh so powerful?"
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Postby The Sarian » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:22 am

"Mr Diaz, question my power again and I shall have to have your head chopped off."
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Postby Arkolon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:24 am

The Sarian wrote:"Mr Diaz, question my power again and I shall have to have your head chopped off."

"The Emperor speaks!"
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:27 am

"That is my point exactly the Executive Branch has far too little power, before they are being threatened by the laws of the judicial branch. They should be handed more power. If they were given more power earlier the events in Adrius would not be happening. We would not be negotiating with terrorists who threaten the territorial integrity of Calverde. If provinces have been created the terrorists would have been stamped down, before they even had a chance to gain power. For too long we have been negotiating with terrorists, and it is time we should be using force to fight them."

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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:29 am

The Sarian wrote:"Mr Diaz, question my power again and I shall have to have your head chopped off."

Esteban stood up and did a Roman salute with the palm down.

"Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant."

"To be honest with you Mr. Rhodes, I don't think that viewpoint is generally accepted... anywhere in the world that isn't Russia. Adrius isn't under the control of militants, they've set up their own democracy. Ever heard of a democracy? We've got enough space to fit our population, and we shouldn't be forcibly taking land away from different countries that- No, I'm done, I can't take myself seriously."

He laughs while taking a seat, and continues to chuckle for five minutes while everyone else ignores him.
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Postby Lykens » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:31 am

"Mister Rhodes, the Speaker has a tendency to bring verbal abuse against those who debate things that aren't on the table, I'd recommend you return to the subject at hand.

Moving on, this amendment fixes many of the the errors found in the GEA, and I would hope it receives near unanimous support, because everyone and their mother seems to have an issue with the bill."
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