NSG Senate Chamber: I came, I saw, I cleaned up after myself

[MERIZoC]

Ah Puch Tecu rolls his eyes.

"Because of course, this is the only advertising outlet in the country."

"It's better to encourage economic activity, even if mild, than to limit it on the premise that they may have some kind of political bias."

And I say it's better to help promote good charitable causes.

[Malgrave]

I'd like to raise a point of parliamentary inquiry (if that is possible >_>)

Is the sponsorship of Tony Blair still valid? It is my understanding that he is not longer an elected member of parliament.

[Davincia]

"It's better to encourage economic activity, even if mild, than to limit it on the premise that they may have some kind of political bias."

And I say it's better to help promote good charitable causes.

"Who is to say that we cannot do both? Allow enough private ads to fund the broadcasts, and then promote various charities."

[Costa Fierro]

"Or you could fund it though general taxation. Having it be funded through general taxation works best in my opinion."

"And where are you going to get this "general taxation" money from?" Campos queried. "General taxation funds our roads, our social welfare, our hospitals, our schools and God knows what else. There is only so much we can extract from taxation before we have to keep hiking up taxes and excises in order to cover the costs. Once you do this, you put an unnecessary burden on all working Calaverdeans. Either we leave this bill as is, in which case, the proposed national television broadcaster becomes self sufficient, or we start charging people to watch TV. What do you want, free to air channels or television licences?"

Ah Puch Tecu rolls his eyes.

"Because of course, this is the only advertising outlet in the country."

Campos looked down at his notes and prepared a rebuttal. "With regards to the honorable member's comments about television not being the only advertising outlet in the country, I should point out that the reason why companies advertise on television is because it can reach an extremely large audience and is a very effective medium through which you can advertise your products and services. Do take into account that a 30 second long advert on television costs hundreds of thousands of dollars/pesos to make and tens of thousands of dollars/pesos to actually get broadcast on television, especially if it's during prime time."

[Atlanticatia]

"I would propose to fund a public television service via a sales tax on televisions, and a targeted, progressive television levy."

[Arkolon]

"I would propose to fund a public television service via a sales tax on televisions, and a targeted, progressive television levy."

"What's stopping you?"

[Costa Fierro]

"I would propose to fund a public television service via a sales tax on televisions, and a targeted, progressive television levy."

"If you want to go down that road, why not just charge a television licence? It's basically achieving the same way of reaching into someone's pocket and taking a fistful of money to fund something which could easily be funded without having to charge people anything. Free-to-air means not charging the people that watch TV the privilege to do so unless they're already subscribed to a pay-per-view service. Besides, are televisions not already covered under sales taxes?"

[Britanno 2]

"I'm not sure if I can support a public broadcaster funded by ad revenues."

"Then why did you sponsor it?"

[The New World Oceania]

"Then why did you sponsor it?"

"The Prime Minister wished to see it debated on the floor, no doubt. Not every sponsorship or signatory is in support of legislation as it is in support of that legislation being debated."

[Atlanticatia]

"The Prime Minister wished to see it debated on the floor, no doubt. Not every sponsorship or signatory is in support of legislation as it is in support of that legislation being debated."

"Yes, this is true."

[Ikania]

"Again, I'd rather consumers funnel money into the economy and help potentially increase profits for companies to keep it afloat, instead of charging yet another tax. Especially since this way, the extra paying is optional and lighter on the consumer."

[Atlanticatia]

"Again, I'd rather consumers funnel money into the economy and help potentially increase profits for companies to keep it afloat, instead of charging yet another tax. Especially since this way, the extra paying is optional and lighter on the consumer."

"What about things that might not be profitable or popular, like some investigative journalism or indigenous culture broadcasting? An indigenous broadcaster might not get huge ratings and be profitable for advertisers, but I'd argue it's important for our nation's culture and heritage. Sometimes, something can be worthwhile for the public benefit despite it being unprofitable. I'm worried that advertising will cause the station to revert to sensationalist news and reality television twenty-four hours a day."

[Ikania]

"Again, I'd rather consumers funnel money into the economy and help potentially increase profits for companies to keep it afloat, instead of charging yet another tax. Especially since this way, the extra paying is optional and lighter on the consumer."

"What about things that might not be profitable or popular, like some investigative journalism or indigenous culture broadcasting? An indigenous broadcaster might not get huge ratings and be profitable for advertisers, but I'd argue it's important for our nation's culture and heritage. Sometimes, something can be worthwhile for the public benefit despite it being unprofitable. I'm worried that advertising will cause the station to revert to sensationalist news and reality television twenty-four hours a day."

"Low ratings mean people don't want to see it."

[Lykens]

"What about things that might not be profitable or popular, like some investigative journalism or indigenous culture broadcasting? An indigenous broadcaster might not get huge ratings and be profitable for advertisers, but I'd argue it's important for our nation's culture and heritage. Sometimes, something can be worthwhile for the public benefit despite it being unprofitable. I'm worried that advertising will cause the station to revert to sensationalist news and reality television twenty-four hours a day."

"Low ratings mean people don't want to see it."

"Probably why Prime Minister Marino was ousted. Mister Chair-boner makes a good point."

[Arkolon]

"Low ratings mean people don't want to see it."

"Probably why Prime Minister Marino was ousted. Mister Chair-boner makes a good point."

"I don't remember saying anything, Honourable Member."

[Lykens]

"Probably why Prime Minister Marino was ousted. Mister Chair-boner makes a good point."

"I don't remember saying anything, Honourable Member."

I apologize, Mister Chair-boner, I meant Mister Kruger."

[Ainin]

"Up next is the Child Protection Act, proposed by the Right Honourable Prime Minister, Mr. Sebastian Luc Morales, of the Democratic Left."

[The New World Oceania]

And now we want to ban physical abuse of a child. First we can't assault adults, and now we can't carry out our rage on our children? Absurd.

[Davincia]

"Perhaps we should establish that light corporal punishment does not constitute as child abuse? Punishing parents for raising their children in a particular and disciplined manner is beyond absurd."

[Atlanticatia]

This bill will greatly improve the well being of our children. Countless studies have shown all forms of corporal punishment - light or not - are extremely damaging and ineffective. All of the evidence from child psychologists points against corporal punishment. We can't accept anything better than the best for our children."

[Heraklea-]

"Perhaps we should establish that light corporal punishment does not constitute as child abuse? Punishing parents for raising their children in a particular and disciplined manner is beyond absurd."

"Even light corporal punishment is damaging to a developing child's psyche, producing a greater predilection for violent, anti-social behavior later in life. This isn't about punishing parents, it's about protecting children."

[Davincia]

"If you wish to implement a nanny-state, then I would imagine that is the only reason to support this bill. I do accept that excessive punishment does have negative affects, that much is true. That being said, there is a strong difference between lightly slapping a child on their bottom for misbehavior and actual abuse. One is teaching a child that there can be painful consequences for doing wrong, the other is nothing but senseless harm."

[Heraklea-]

"If you wish to implement a nanny-state, then I would imagine that is the only reason to support this bill. I do accept that excessive punishment does have negative affects, that much is true. That being said, there is a strong difference between lightly slapping a child on their bottom for misbehavior and actual abuse. One is teaching a child that there can be painful consequences for doing wrong, the other is nothing but senseless harm."

"Perhaps the honorable member would like to familiarize himself with the general consensus of child psychologists from across the world who agree that even a light slapping is damaging to a child's psychological development. Any sort of physical discipline has shown to create a significant rise in violent behavior on the part of the child. This is damaging to the child, the other children who become targets for that violence, and society at large as these children who have been victimized by an outdated concept of discipline grow to become adults, inheriting our civilization and having children of their upon whom the cycle will be continued."

[Malgrave]

"If you wish to implement a nanny-state, then I would imagine that is the only reason to support this bill. I do accept that excessive punishment does have negative affects, that much is true. That being said, there is a strong difference between lightly slapping a child on their bottom for misbehavior and actual abuse. One is teaching a child that there can be painful consequences for doing wrong, the other is nothing but senseless harm."

All forms of corporal punishment have been proven to be detrimental to the health and development of the child. It is imperative that we pass this legislation.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

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