NSG Senate Chamber: I came, I saw, I cleaned up after myself

[Prussia-Steinbach]

"I am an elected member of this assembly, elected in protest of the illegal way it was established outside the rule of law through murder and lies!"

"I apologize for my misunderstanding, sir. I will rescind my request to the Speaker. And while the revolution which toppled the junta may be illegal in your eyes, unfortunately for you, we live in a society where we value the people. We prefer democracy to dictatorship. I'm sure you understand that the peoples of Calaverde do as well. We don't consider the uprising illegal. On the contrary, it was necessary. But I digress, we're not here to discuss the overthrow of the old regime; we are currently debating The Official Information Act. You're more than welcome to chime in."

"A valid opinion. Let the man speak, but only if in a civilized manner."

[The Nihilistic view]

"I am an elected member of this assembly, elected in protest of the illegal way it was established outside the rule of law through murder and lies!"

"I apologize for my misunderstanding, sir. I will rescind my request to the Speaker. And while the revolution which toppled the junta may be illegal in your eyes, unfortunately for you, we live in a society where we value the people. We prefer democracy to dictatorship. I'm sure you understand that the peoples of Calaverde do as well. We don't consider the uprising illegal. On the contrary, it was necessary. But I digress, we're not here to discuss the overthrow of the old regime; we are currently debating The Official Information Act. You're more than welcome to chime in."

"It's not illegal when you win" chuckles Boris.


"Mr Speaker, is there any update for this months Prime Ministers Questions? On the 5th of May you said it would happen on the next Saturday which would have been the 9th. Yet it is now the this is the 16th and the second Saturday since you said it would be held and it has not happened."

[The New World Oceania]

Point of inquiry, when are we debating the bill we just tabled, then?

"Never actually. The motion was made to remove the bill from debate as to their eyes, there's a government bill more effective then the private member's bill."

"Is that, then, to suggest that a mere eight Senators can cause a bill to fail without a vote?"

[Zurkerx]

"I apologize for my misunderstanding, sir. I will rescind my request to the Speaker. And while the revolution which toppled the junta may be illegal in your eyes, unfortunately for you, we live in a society where we value the people. We prefer democracy to dictatorship. I'm sure you understand that the peoples of Calaverde do as well. We don't consider the uprising illegal. On the contrary, it was necessary. But I digress, we're not here to discuss the overthrow of the old regime; we are currently debating The Official Information Act. You're more than welcome to chime in."

"It's not illegal when you win" chuckles Boris.


"Mr Speaker, is there any update for this months Prime Ministers Questions? On the 5th of May you said it would happen on the next Saturday which would have been the 9th. Yet it is now the this is the 16th and the second Saturday since you said it would be held and it has not happened."

"We will be doing that today. While it was the original plan to do them on the 9th, he unfortunately could not do it on the 9th. (I did TG him and got nothing)."

"Never actually. The motion was made to remove the bill from debate as to their eyes, there's a government bill more effective then the private member's bill."

"Is that, then, to suggest that a mere eight Senators can cause a bill to fail without a vote?"

"It wasn't a mere eight Senators my friend, rather it was twelve. Eight would of not been simply enough for me do something like that. Also, since this bill wont be brought up to a vote since it was "removed from the floor", we will not be voting on this bill."

[Zurkerx]

ORDER.

"Questions for the Prime Minister will begin when the Prime Minister is ready for today. So ask away when he says he is ready, I will sit back and listen. In the mean time continue debating. "

[The Nihilistic view]

"It's not illegal when you win" chuckles Boris.


"Mr Speaker, is there any update for this months Prime Ministers Questions? On the 5th of May you said it would happen on the next Saturday which would have been the 9th. Yet it is now the this is the 16th and the second Saturday since you said it would be held and it has not happened."

"We will be doing that today. While it was the original plan to do them on the 9th, he unfortunately could not do it on the 9th. (I did TG him and got nothing)."

OOC: No worries, I know it's sometimes a challenge to schedule it!

[Zurkerx]

"We will be doing that today. While it was the original plan to do them on the 9th, he unfortunately could not do it on the 9th. (I did TG him and got nothing)."

OOC: No worries, I know it's sometimes a challenge to schedule it!

OOC: I like to plan ahead, it has always helped me.

[The Sarian]

OOC: Can't we just ask the questions and have the Prime Minister answer them when he gets on?

[Zurkerx]

OOC: Can't we just ask the questions and have the Prime Minister answer them when he gets on?

OOC: We can I suppose though that wasn't done like that the last time. I guess I can do it that way, I just don't want overwhelm him if too many are asked before he gets on.

[Anatolio Rodarte]

"I move to dissolve the senate!"

[The New World Oceania]

"It wasn't a mere eight Senators my friend, rather it was twelve. Eight would of not been simply enough for me do something like that. Also, since this bill wont be brought up to a vote since it was "removed from the floor", we will not be voting on this bill."

It was done with a non-binding motion, which could be anything from eight to fourteen. That it is not coming to vote is exactly the issue — a minority of members were able to vote the bill down through a motion rather than a legitimate vote. With that precedent, any fifteen members can kill any legislation they like before it is voted on.

[Zurkerx]

"It wasn't a mere eight Senators my friend, rather it was twelve. Eight would of not been simply enough for me do something like that. Also, since this bill wont be brought up to a vote since it was "removed from the floor", we will not be voting on this bill."

It was done with a non-binding motion, which could be anything from eight to fourteen. That it is not coming to vote is exactly the issue — a minority of members were able to vote the bill down through a motion rather than a legitimate vote. With that precedent, any fifteen members can kill any legislation they like before it is voted on.

True, however, it has to recognized by the Speaker and I won't let them disregard any legislation they like without a good reason.

[The Nihilistic view]

"It wasn't a mere eight Senators my friend, rather it was twelve. Eight would of not been simply enough for me do something like that. Also, since this bill wont be brought up to a vote since it was "removed from the floor", we will not be voting on this bill."

It was done with a non-binding motion, which could be anything from eight to fourteen. That it is not coming to vote is exactly the issue — a minority of members were able to vote the bill down through a motion rather than a legitimate vote. With that precedent, any fifteen members can kill any legislation they like before it is voted on.

Well a bill making it 8 for a binding one is waiting for presidential assent so really the Speaker is just acting within the spirit of the new law that has already passed through parliament.

[The New World Oceania]

It was done with a non-binding motion, which could be anything from eight to fourteen. That it is not coming to vote is exactly the issue — a minority of members were able to vote the bill down through a motion rather than a legitimate vote. With that precedent, any fifteen members can kill any legislation they like before it is voted on.

True, however, it has to recognized by the Speaker and I won't let them disregard any legislation they like without a good reason.

A binding motion, however, must be recognized. Worse yet, as my honorable colleague has pointed out, a bill requiring only eight seconds for a binding motion awaits presidential assent.

[Zurkerx]

True, however, it has to recognized by the Speaker and I won't let them disregard any legislation they like without a good reason.

A binding motion, however, must be recognized. Worse yet, as my honorable colleague has pointed out, a bill requiring only eight seconds for a binding motion awaits presidential assent.

Well, the only thing I can say really is write an amendment/bill and change that. They passed the law through Parliament.

[The Nihilistic view]

I too am against the amendment passed but it's there and I can't really fault the speaker if he starts to more readily accept non binding motions before assent is given.

[New Werpland]

"I move to dissolve the senate!"

seconded

[The New World Oceania]

A binding motion, however, must be recognized. Worse yet, as my honorable colleague has pointed out, a bill requiring only eight seconds for a binding motion awaits presidential assent.

Well, the only thing I can say really is write an amendment/bill and change that. They passed the law through Parliament.

You are ignoring the issue at hand, Mr. Speaker, and acting as if the concern is somewhere else. I don't care what constitutes a binding or non-binding motion — the motion passed should be allowed to be neither. Killing legislation is something a simple majority of this body must do, not a select group of a few members.

[Collatis]

Javier chucks a bottle at his head.

OOC: Oh no! A deliberate and planned attack

[Ainin]

Motion to defenestrate Miss Njil.

[Arkolon]

Motion to defenestrate all those that question the authority of Miss Njil.

[Lykens]

"Point of parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Is it not true that if MP Njil does not favor the motion, she can easily and quite readily make a counter motion, with equal to or more backers than the motion that was just carried?"

[The Saint James Islands]

"I move to dissolve the senate!"

"Motion to defenestrate MP Rodarte."

[Beta Test]

Salvador walks in to see the motions about defenstration.

"I'm here now...calm yourselves."

[Britanno 2]

Motion to motion for the banning of all motions.