NSG Senate Chamber: I came, I saw, I cleaned up after myself

[Battlion]

"So, we don't need credit cards, debit cards, bank accounts, savings accounts, investment services, insurance products, business lending, cheque accounts, payment services, international money transfers, foreign exchange services, traveller's cheques and a way of projects being funded?

My lord, does the opposition think we need anything anymore?

Oh and before the opposition responds with the same critique they gave about the Labor Mediation Act, where is the Oppositions proposal or their vision for Calaverde even?" shouted the Deputy-Prime Minister from the frontbench.

"Yeah, right. We literally can't have any of those things without a corporatist state bank. Next we'll have to establish a bureau a tying one's shoes. How's anybody supposed to figure that stuff out without the benevolent government holding our hands?

But this is more useful than the Labor Mediation Act, I admit. It helps someone achieve their ideological goals at any rate."

"Or, we could have a fair and reasonable Independent State Controlled Bank which whilst receiving funding from the government is at a significant distance away from their influence to make their own decisions?

Leaving this entirely in the hands of the private sector could see significant abuses and seeing the citizens of Calaverde being ripped off and taken for a ride, at least with the Citizens Bank we'll have a fair alternative that will not simply be in it for themselves but for the collective good!"

[The Nihilistic view]

"Because obviously there are no Banks operating at the moment....... It's clear the Deputy Prime Minister has spent too long in his own bubble and does not inhabit the real world."

"Point of Order, should the Speaker really be dishing out insults to character?

I am fully aware that banks exist, my criticism of the Opposition is that they don't have a policy for seemingly anything and ignore the fact that the government can and should invest in projects and this is one of doing it through the Citizens Bank"

"There is no rule about the Speaker making comments on legislation as an MP.


So leave the hyperbole at the door, all it does is detract from what could be a solid argument and make the government look silly. It does the government a disservice in the eyes of the people."

[Alyekra]

"Yeah, right. We literally can't have any of those things without a corporatist state bank. Next we'll have to establish a bureau a tying one's shoes. How's anybody supposed to figure that stuff out without the benevolent government holding our hands?

But this is more useful than the Labor Mediation Act, I admit. It helps someone achieve their ideological goals at any rate."

"Or, we could have a fair and reasonable Independent State Controlled Bank which whilst receiving funding from the government is at a significant distance away from their influence to make their own decisions?

Leaving this entirely in the hands of the private sector could see significant abuses and seeing the citizens of Calaverde being ripped off and taken for a ride, at least with the Citizens Bank we'll have a fair alternative that will not simply be in it for themselves but for the collective good!"

"Because no government employee would ever abuse their power? If you think state bureaucrats operate for the greater good you are hopelessly mistaken."

[The Sarian]

"Because obviously there are no Banks operating at the moment....... It's clear the Deputy Prime Minister has spent too long in his own bubble and does not inhabit the real world."

"Point of Order, should the Speaker really be dishing out insults to character?

I am fully aware that banks exist, my criticism of the Opposition is that they don't have a policy for seemingly anything and ignore the fact that the government can and should invest in projects and this is one of doing it through the Citizens Bank"

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

Instead all you see is an out of touch Deputy Prime Minister when you look in the Cabinet Office mirror."

[Battlion]

"Point of Order, should the Speaker really be dishing out insults to character?

I am fully aware that banks exist, my criticism of the Opposition is that they don't have a policy for seemingly anything and ignore the fact that the government can and should invest in projects and this is one of doing it through the Citizens Bank"

"There is no rule about the Speaker making comments on legislation as an MP.


So leave the hyperbole at the door, all it does is detract from what could be a solid argument and make the government look silly. It does the government a disservice in the eyes of the people."

"Except the Speaker didn't make comments on legislation itself or its wording, he commented on the character of another MP and misrepresented their words in a way that breaks standing order 2.

hyperbole is one thing, making sure that the words of those saying them aren't twisted is another"

[The Nihilistic view]

"Yeah, right. We literally can't have any of those things without a corporatist state bank. Next we'll have to establish a bureau a tying one's shoes. How's anybody supposed to figure that stuff out without the benevolent government holding our hands?

But this is more useful than the Labor Mediation Act, I admit. It helps someone achieve their ideological goals at any rate."

"Or, we could have a fair and reasonable Independent State Controlled Bank which whilst receiving funding from the government is at a significant distance away from their influence to make their own decisions?

Leaving this entirely in the hands of the private sector could see significant abuses and seeing the citizens of Calaverde being ripped off and taken for a ride, at least with the Citizens Bank we'll have a fair alternative that will not simply be in it for themselves but for the collective good!"

"Retail banking has tiny profit margins. I don't see how anybody can see a profit margin of half a percent or less a rip off. Any abuses that occur can only occur if the Government fails to regulate and oversee the sector properly. These issues will occur with or without a Citizens Bank and without proper regulation it is just as likely these abuses will occur within the Citizens Bank. "

[Battlion]

"Point of Order, should the Speaker really be dishing out insults to character?

I am fully aware that banks exist, my criticism of the Opposition is that they don't have a policy for seemingly anything and ignore the fact that the government can and should invest in projects and this is one of doing it through the Citizens Bank"

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

Instead all you see is an out of touch Deputy Prime Minister when you look in the Cabinet Office mirror."

"I look forward to seeing the Opposition's new barrage of policies to change things in the chamber then"

[Battlion]

"Or, we could have a fair and reasonable Independent State Controlled Bank which whilst receiving funding from the government is at a significant distance away from their influence to make their own decisions?

Leaving this entirely in the hands of the private sector could see significant abuses and seeing the citizens of Calaverde being ripped off and taken for a ride, at least with the Citizens Bank we'll have a fair alternative that will not simply be in it for themselves but for the collective good!"

"Retail banking has tiny profit margins. I don't see how anybody can see a profit margin of half a percent or less a rip off. Any abuses that occur can only occur if the Government fails to regulate and oversee the sector properly. These issues will occur with or without a Citizens Bank and without proper regulation it is just as likely these abuses will occur within the Citizens Bank. "

"Which is why I'm glad we can agree that there should be proper regulation, I'm sure the relevant Minister will do this if they have to do so, however this is about the proposal at hand and the Citizens Bank"

[The Sarian]

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

Instead all you see is an out of touch Deputy Prime Minister when you look in the Cabinet Office mirror."

"I look forward to seeing the Opposition's new barrage of policies to change things in the chamber then"

"It's a shame I can not extend the same courtesy. I thought myself and this government would find common ground on many issues; it's a shame you have proven me wrong."

[The Nihilistic view]

"There is no rule about the Speaker making comments on legislation as an MP.


So leave the hyperbole at the door, all it does is detract from what could be a solid argument and make the government look silly. It does the government a disservice in the eyes of the people."

"Except the Speaker didn't make comments on legislation itself or its wording, he commented on the character of another MP and misrepresented their words in a way that breaks standing order 2.

hyperbole is one thing, making sure that the words of those saying them aren't twisted is another"

"ORDER

Mr Welder, it is unacceptable to accuse another member of misrepresenting the words of another. Please withdraw. Standing Order number 2 forbids the accusation of misrepresenting the words of a member. accusing a fellow member of lying of being drunk or under the influence of drugs or of misrepresenting the words of another member.

Any member commenting on the character of another member is not against any order as long as the language used is not that of swear or curse words or does not accuse them of lying, being drunk, of misrepresentation or anything along those lines."

[Battlion]

"I'll withdraw"

[The Sarian]

"I'll withdraw"

"Shame it's not from government" Matilde muttered to the FDP Deputy Chairman.

[The Nihilistic view]

"I'll withdraw"

"Thank you."

OOC: To clarify i'm only ruling as speaker when I put order at the top of the post. Me telling you to stop the hyperbole is as a member. You have no need to stop it if you want to continue or to stop what you were directing at the opposition as long as you don't do it using swear or curse or other words that are often used as insults in normal usage etc.

[The Nihilistic view]

"I'll withdraw"

"Shame it's not from government" Matilde muttered to the FDP Deputy Chairman.

"ORDER

Madam Ojeda-Campos, I don't need your snide remarks about the Deputy Prime Ministers actions to other members when presiding over issues of order. Please don't do it again."

[The Sarian]

"Shame it's not from government" Matilde muttered to the FDP Deputy Chairman.

"ORDER

Madam Ojeda-Campos, I don't need your snide remarks about the Deputy Prime Ministers actions to other members when presiding over issues of order. Please don't do it again."

OOC: There is absolutely no way the chair would have heard that, it was muttered to the person sitting next to me.

[The Nihilistic view]

"ORDER

Madam Ojeda-Campos, I don't need your snide remarks about the Deputy Prime Ministers actions to other members when presiding over issues of order. Please don't do it again."

OOC: There is absolutely no way the chair would have heard that, it was muttered to the person sitting next to me.

OOC: I was making a ruling so there would be quiet in the chamber and there are microphones hanging from the ceiling. Anything above a whisper would definitely be picked up in those circumstances.

That goes for everyone, think before you speak unless you want to be picked up on one of the microphones. Unless of course you want to be heard.

[Britanno]

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

"Shame you can't even elect a leader let alone form a cabinet then."

[The Nihilistic view]

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

"Shame you can't even elect a leader let alone form a cabinet then."

Boris chuckled.

[Battlion]

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

"Shame you can't even elect a leader let alone form a cabinet then."

"hear hear" laughed Euàn

[The Sarian]

OOC: There is absolutely no way the chair would have heard that, it was muttered to the person sitting next to me.

OOC: I was making a ruling so there would be quiet in the chamber and there are microphones hanging from the ceiling. Anything above a whisper would definitely be picked up in those circumstances.

That goes for everyone, think before you speak unless you want to be picked up on one of the microphones. Unless of course you want to be heard.

OOC: Then please do inform me what Harriet Harman mutters in Ed Milibands ear every PMQs, I would love to know.

[Lykens]

"Opposing the far-left measures of a supposedly centrist government is not a lack of policies, Mr Deputy Prime Minister. If you took a walk out of the Cabinet Office you would see Blue Coalition activists working tirelessly all over the country supporting their local communities, you would see constant press releases from our coalition promising an alternative to the smothering of success you propose and you would see a number of acts for the protection of the most vulnerable in our country being debated open and frankly in the Senatorial Coffee Shop.

"Shame you can't even elect a leader let alone form a cabinet then."

Kenneth applauded his colleague's statement.

[The Nihilistic view]

OOC: I was making a ruling so there would be quiet in the chamber and there are microphones hanging from the ceiling. Anything above a whisper would definitely be picked up in those circumstances.

That goes for everyone, think before you speak unless you want to be picked up on one of the microphones. Unless of course you want to be heard.

OOC: Then please do inform me what Harriet Harman mutters in Ed Milibands ear every PMQs, I would love to know.

OOC: "My place tonight?"

"Yeah, i'll bring the cock rings"

[The Sarian]

OOC: Then please do inform me what Harriet Harman mutters in Ed Milibands ear every PMQs, I would love to know.

OOC: "My place tonight?"

"Yeah, i'll bring the cock rings"

"My apologies, Mr. Speaker, I'll pass a note next time."

OOC: That disturbed me so much I've decided that apologizing for muttering isn't so bad after all.

[Ikania]

"Speaker, this bill was only submitted to your office yesterday, surely there are other issues in the queue that have been there for much longer?"

[Kralta]

"I would have to tend to agree with Senator Escuella."