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Postby Jetan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:15 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Jetan wrote:Yeah. Since almost the beginning of Calaverde (and I skipped almost all of Baltonia too). How much has been decided about the new nation?

It's going to be a Nordic nation in the Norwegian Sea with a significant Norse pagan minority. Other than that, not a great deal. We're currently discussing names. Naturally we already have a full host of parties, of course.

Oh boy.
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Postby New Werpland » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:18 am

Jetan wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:It's going to be a Nordic nation in the Norwegian Sea with a significant Norse pagan minority. Other than that, not a great deal. We're currently discussing names. Naturally we already have a full host of parties, of course.

Oh boy.

No, once we get to voting about it that will be significantly decreased from the proposed 35% to something more realistic.

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:27 am

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Jetan wrote:Oh boy.

No, once we get to voting about it that will be significantly decreased from the proposed 35% to something more realistic.

Not necessarily. The 35% is quite interesting and makes for good RP, and I think a lot of people agree with me on that.
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Postby New Werpland » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:31 am

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New Werpland wrote:No, once we get to voting about it that will be significantly decreased from the proposed 35% to something more realistic.

Not necessarily. The 35% is quite interesting and makes for good RP, and I think a lot of people agree with me on that.

I've seen many people who don't like it.

10% is already wildly unrealistic keep it at that.

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Postby Jetan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:51 am

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New Werpland wrote:No, once we get to voting about it that will be significantly decreased from the proposed 35% to something more realistic.

Not necessarily. The 35% is quite interesting and makes for good RP, and I think a lot of people agree with me on that.

Well...

35% would be pretty absurd for the proposed location. Even that 10% would be alot.
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Postby Tuthina » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:55 am

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United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:Not necessarily. The 35% is quite interesting and makes for good RP, and I think a lot of people agree with me on that.

I've seen many people who don't like it.

10% is already wildly unrealistic keep it at that.

That issue can be settled with a vote once we are done with the name, methinks. Or should history comes first?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:01 am

Tuthina wrote:
New Werpland wrote:I've seen many people who don't like it.

10% is already wildly unrealistic keep it at that.

That issue can be settled with a vote once we are done with the name, methinks. Or should history comes first?


The history should come first. I like Heraklea's history.

We should have at least 15% pagan population, though. Otherwise, the Boring Alliance will take over and the roleplay will die.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:03 am

Jetan wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:Not necessarily. The 35% is quite interesting and makes for good RP, and I think a lot of people agree with me on that.

Well...

35% would be pretty absurd for the proposed location. Even that 10% would be alot.


See our proposed histories. My rough history or Heraklea's history accounts for a significant pagan minority. Maybe not 35%, but larger than 10%.

If you want make the largest political party (RSP, openly pagan) only representative of 10% of the population, then you're giving WAY to much power to the boringists.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:43 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Tuthina wrote:That issue can be settled with a vote once we are done with the name, methinks. Or should history comes first?


The history should come first. I like Heraklea's history.

We should have at least 15% pagan population, though. Otherwise, the Boring Alliance will take over and the roleplay will die.

Exactly.

We already have numerous senators and parties openly espousing paganism. I say we keep it at 30-35%.
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Postby New Werpland » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:02 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Jetan wrote:Well...

35% would be pretty absurd for the proposed location. Even that 10% would be alot.


See our proposed histories. My rough history or Heraklea's history accounts for a significant pagan minority. Maybe not 35%, but larger than 10%.

If you want make the largest political party (RSP, openly pagan) only representative of 10% of the population, then you're giving WAY to much power to the boringists.

We could also say that the pagans are followers of aliens who stopped by Placeholdergaard after building the pyramids.
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Tuthina wrote:That issue can be settled with a vote once we are done with the name, methinks. Or should history comes first?


The history should come first. I like Heraklea's history.

We should have at least 15% pagan population, though. Otherwise, the Boring Alliance will take over and the roleplay will die.

Remember demographics do not change how the roleplaying will go along. 10 percent is a large concentration of people, it's not like by not having 35 percent you can't have pagan political movements and whatnot.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:04 am

Bojikami wrote:I am not sure if I'll join the fascist party or if I'll form some kind of National Bolshevist party.

Um...
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:06 am

New Werpland wrote:We could also say that the pagans are followers of aliens who stopped by Placeholdergaard after building the pyramids.

Give me one damn good reason we can't have a decent number of pagans in our fictional nation. That we are roleplaying. That we are making up.

My biggest question is: Why the fuck do you care? How does it affect you if a decent number of people follow heathenry? Why do you give that much of a shit?
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Postby Osea 767 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:06 am

Certainly. The substantial pagan numbers are certainly the most interesting thing about the setting. Besides, while I think a good explanation has been offered, it's not like the senate pays that much attention to realism. Even if you think the numbers are unrealistic, at least the senate would be indulging in something unrealistic that is interesting, something that could help make the RP more entertaining.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:09 am

Osea 767 wrote:Certainly. The substantial pagan numbers are certainly the most interesting thing about the setting. Besides, while I think a good explanation has been offered, it's not like the senate pays that much attention to realism. Even if you think the numbers are unrealistic, at least the senate would be indulging in something unrealistic that is interesting.

Yes. It's different, and interesting, but it's not insane, and we've provided a reasonable explanation.

Hop off and let us have some fucking fun for once.
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Postby Osea 767 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:15 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yes. It's different, and interesting, but it's not insane, and we've provided a reasonable explanation.

Hop off and let us have some fucking fun for once.


Exactly, and I wouldn't care even if someone suddenly put forward something to prove that they were. It's a fun element and I hope any effort to reduce the number of pagans fail completely.
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Postby The Sarian » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:20 am

I propose that 73% of the population should be ogres.
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Postby New Werpland » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:20 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Werpland wrote:We could also say that the pagans are followers of aliens who stopped by Placeholdergaard after building the pyramids.

Give me one damn good reason we can't have a decent number of pagans in our fictional nation. That we are roleplaying. That we are making up.

My biggest question is: Why the fuck do you care? How does it affect you if a decent number of people follow heathenry? Why do you give that much of a shit?

It affects me because it makes the base of the roleplay unrealistic and wonky. We'd have the largest concentration of pagans in the world, with the second largest being a miniscule nation that broke off from another small nation. Why do you care? 10% of the population is already a lot, why do you insist on cramming paganism down our throats?
Osea 767 wrote:Certainly. The substantial pagan numbers are certainly the most interesting thing about the setting. Besides, while I think a good explanation has been offered, it's not like the senate pays that much attention to realism. Even if you think the numbers are unrealistic, at least the senate would be indulging in something unrealistic that is interesting, something that could help make the RP more entertaining.

A lot of people didn't vote for Dragay because of the pagans, I don't think that many people find it interesting as much as people find it strange. Let's not be niche.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:00 am

The Sarian wrote:I propose that 73% of the population should be ogres.

YES

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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:19 am

The Sarian wrote:I propose that 73% of the population should be ogres.

Jewish ogres, that way Israel won't demand reparations from us.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:31 am

The Sarian wrote:I propose that 73% of the population should be ogres.

I second this proposal and further suggest that 10% of the population should be witches, and that the head of state should the Grand High Witch.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:34 am

New Zepuha wrote:
The Sarian wrote:I propose that 73% of the population should be ogres.

Jewish ogres, that way Israel won't demand reparations from us.

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Postby Murkwood » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:09 am

Dragay is already as boring as the Social Democrats. The Pagans are the only interesting thing about it. We should keep them where they are. The Three Horsemen of boredom shouldn't call all the shots.
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Postby New Werpland » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:10 am

Murkwood wrote:Dragay is already as boring as the Social Democrats. The Pagans are the only interesting thing about it. We should keep them where they are. The Three Horsemen of boredom shouldn't call all the shots.

Some people like nsgs solely because of the realism though.

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Postby New Waterford » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:14 am

You know what else is unrealistic?

Four month presidential terms.

Having as many Senators as we like without any general elections.

Brand new landmasses which would stick out like a sore thumb on an atlas being placed in random parts of the world, without their existence causing a butterfly effect which would lead to 21st century Earth being a dystopian hellhole ruled under iron fists by sentient walruses or something.

NSG Senate has never been completely realistic, and if it were it wouldn't be any fun. Why not embrace the absurdities and live a little?
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