NSG Senate Lobby: What Does Marcellus Wallace Look Like?

[The New Sea Territory]

The Liberals have potential to be interesting, but could go either way. The Social Democrats are guaranteed to be boring, though. They are the essence of boring.

The Liberals don't have anything different or special.

By choice. The Socdems, even if they tried, could not make their party any less boring.

[Murkwood]

Here's what I got:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/svgfiles/2015-10-25-20-07-08-098523-3554340129949303060.svg

Left to right: Commies (Bolsheviks, RSP), Left (Vikings, Minority, UDP), Three Horsemen of Boredom (Social Democrats, Centrists, Liberals), Rightists, and National Revival Movement (National Revivalists, Pagan Front).

Commies: 11
Left: 5
THoB: 17
Right: 9
NRM: 12

[Murkwood]

Fascists are black. You are Pink.

The Boring Coalition includes the Radical Centrists and the Social Democrats.

Fascists are better associated with brown, not black.

Nazis are Brown, yet most fascists copy the Italians and are black.

[U n i t y]

Here's what I got:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/svgfiles/2015-10-25-20-07-08-098523-3554340129949303060.svg

Left to right: Commies (Bolsheviks, RSP), Left (Vikings, Minority, UDP), Three Horsemen of Boredom (Social Democrats, Centrists, Liberals), Rightists, and National Revival Movement (National Revivalists, Pagan Front).

Commies: 11
Left: 5
THoB: 17
Right: 9
NRM: 12

You forgot my party, EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING MY PARTY.

[The New Sea Territory]

Here's what I got:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/svgfiles/2015-10-25-20-07-08-098523-3554340129949303060.svg

Left to right: Commies (Bolsheviks, RSP), Left (Vikings, Minority, UDP), Three Horsemen of Boredom (Social Democrats, Centrists, Liberals), Rightists, and National Revival Movement (National Revivalists, Pagan Front).

Commies: 11
Left: 5
THoB: 17
Right: 9
NRM: 12

You forgot my party, EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING MY PARTY.

Your party is the UDP.

[U n i t y]

You forgot my party, EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING MY PARTY.

Your party is the UDP.

Really? My party is centrist, not left leaning so that is why I was confused. Thanks for clearing it up. So now my party has been assigned three different titles, the UDP (acceptable), leftist (unacceptable), and WTF (?!?!).

[Wolfmanne2]

Here's what I got:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/svgfiles/2015-10-25-20-07-08-098523-3554340129949303060.svg

Left to right: Commies (Bolsheviks, RSP), Left (Vikings, Minority, UDP), Three Horsemen of Boredom (Social Democrats, Centrists, Liberals), Rightists, and National Revival Movement (National Revivalists, Pagan Front).

Commies: 11
Left: 5
THoB: 17
Right: 9
NRM: 12

You forgot my party, EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING MY PARTY.

Because your party doesn't really stand for anything, if I'm honest.

[Murkwood]

You forgot my party, EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING MY PARTY.

Because your party doesn't really stand for anything, if I'm honest.

At least they aren't Social Democrats.

[The New Sea Territory]

Your party is the UDP.

Really? My party is centrist, not left leaning so that is why I was confused. Thanks for clearing it up. So now my party has been assigned three different titles, the UDP (acceptable), leftist (unacceptable), and WTF (?!?!).

Yeah, I put you with the centrists and the liberals with the rightists.

[Zurkerx]

The Liberals don't have anything different or special.

By choice. The Socdems, even if they tried, could not make their party any less boring.

I'm sure we can make it interesting if we can keep the activity up and cause some mayhem.

[U n i t y]

You forgot my party, EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING MY PARTY.

Because your party doesn't really stand for anything, if I'm honest.

It stands for the glorious Forward Ideology which shall lead this country to greatness! It spices things up in NSGS simply because it is a new party with new ideals. It is also against the welfare state, favoring creating jobs and job education than paying people to sit on their thumbs.

[Irona]

Because your party doesn't really stand for anything, if I'm honest.

It stands for the glorious Forward Ideology which shall lead this country to greatness! It spices things up in NSGS simply because it is a new party with new ideals. It is also against the welfare state, favoring creating jobs and job education than paying people to sit on their thumbs.

It might stand for somthing but it's not at all clear what. If your creating an entirely new ideology you need to lay out what the ideology is

[U n i t y]

It stands for the glorious Forward Ideology which shall lead this country to greatness! It spices things up in NSGS simply because it is a new party with new ideals. It is also against the welfare state, favoring creating jobs and job education than paying people to sit on their thumbs.

It might stand for somthing but it's not at all clear what. If your creating an entirely new ideology you need to lay out what the ideology is

Okay, when NSGS chooses the nation name, I will describe the ideology in deep detail.

[The New Sea Territory]

It might stand for somthing but it's not at all clear what. If your creating an entirely new ideology you need to lay out what the ideology is

Okay, when NSGS chooses the nation name, I will describe the ideology in deep detail.

Dragay. Hence the label "UDP".

[The Florists Union]

Here's what I got:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/svgfiles/2015-10-25-20-07-08-098523-3554340129949303060.svg

Left to right: Commies (Bolsheviks, RSP), Left (Vikings, Minority, UDP), Three Horsemen of Boredom (Social Democrats, Centrists, Liberals), Rightists, and National Revival Movement (National Revivalists, Pagan Front).

Commies: 11
Left: 5
THoB: 17
Right: 9
NRM: 12

You forgot the center-right conservative party.

[The Liberated Territories]

Anyone wanna get high off of Nostalgia with me?

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[Beta Test]

Anyone wanna get high off of Nostalgia with me?

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To think all of that was over 2 and half years ago...

[Argentarino]

Here's what I got:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/parliamentdiagram/svgfiles/2015-10-25-20-07-08-098523-3554340129949303060.svg

Left to right: Commies (Bolsheviks, RSP), Left (Vikings, Minority, UDP), Three Horsemen of Boredom (Social Democrats, Centrists, Liberals), Rightists, and National Revival Movement (National Revivalists, Pagan Front).

Commies: 11
Left: 5
THoB: 17
Right: 9
NRM: 12

Hey, the link isn't working for me.

[Atlanticatia]

The Liberals don't have anything different or special.

By choice. The Socdems, even if they tried, could not make their party any less boring.

Hey, I find us pretty interesting.

[New Zepuha]

By choice. The Socdems, even if they tried, could not make their party any less boring.

Hey, I find us pretty interesting.

See. No excitement.

[Wolfmanne2]

Hey, I find us pretty interesting.

See. No excitement.

You're looking at the boring parts of the Labour movement.

[Zombie Fascists]

I'm gonna change to the Viking Party. They seem funnier than the fascists. I'll probably use a viking themed puppet if that's ok.

[Heraklea-]

I'm gonna change to the Viking Party. They seem funnier than the fascists. I'll probably use a viking themed puppet if that's ok.

Excellent.

[Not a Bang but a Whimper]

It's certainly early, but are there any thoughts on using a system like this for the government's structure?

---

Government Establishment Act

Author: Elise Marlowe (FEM)
Sponsors:
An act to establish a framework and a state.

---

Article 1
The state shall be named the State of Dragay. Dragay shall be politically independent from any other state, with the privilege of having its own political authority, henceforth the "Government of Dragay", conducting its own elections, having responsibility for its own protection, existence, and defense. The Government of Dragay shall exclusively wield the privileges to impose fiscal laws on its citizens, to set its own budget, and to issue a currency as the legal tender in Dragay.

Article 2
Dragay shall have as political authorities the President of Dragay and the Prime Minister of Dragay as Heads of State and Government, respectively, and the Parliament and the Senate as the legislature. The principle of the rule of law shall be the basis of all government in Dragay. All authorities, powers, agencies, institutions and individuals shall be subject to law.

Article 3
The executive power shall be vested in the Prime Minister of Dragay. The Prime Minister shall lead the Office of the Prime Minister, the Parliament, and the Executive for a term of two months, to which they shall be appointed by the President on the basis of demonstrating the confidence of the Parliament. The Prime Ministerial inauguration shall consist of their placing of the right hand on the head of the President and their recitation of the oath, thereof: "I, (name), do solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will truly and faithfully, and to the best of my skill and knowledge, execute the powers and trust reposed in me as Prime Minister of Dragay. So help me God." The final word is optional. The Prime Minister shall appoint their Cabinet, which must be approved by each appointment individually by the Senate. The Prime Minister, should they desire to resign, shall be required to provide written resignation to the President.

Article 4
The Prime Minister must approve all legislation passed by the Parliament in order for it to become law. If the Prime Minister declines to sign approval to the legislation within two weeks, then the legislation automatically becomes law. If the Prime Minister vetoes the bill, it is sent to the Senate for revision, then back to the Parliament, which, if they vote in favor of it, sends it back to the Office of the Prime Minister, who then approves or vetoes it. If the Prime Minister again vetoes the bill, the President may reverse the veto with the assent of two-thirds of the Senate. If the Prime Minister approves of the legislation the first time it reaches their desk, the President may veto.

Article 5
The power of the Head of State shall be vested in the President of Dragay. The President shall lead the Office of the President, the Senate, and the Executive for four months, to which the momentary Senate on the end of term of the President preceding shall elect them. The President shall split any votes tied within the Senate. The President shall appoint a Prime Minister who commands the confidence of a majority of the Parliament. The President shall, upon the advice of the Foreign Minister and approval of the Senate, appoint all ambassadors, delegates, and representatives to foreign nations or international organizations. The President shall, upon advice of the Minister of Finance, provide assent to any bills solely concerned with taxation or spending, and no such bills shall be introduced to the legislature without gaining such assent.

Article 6
The legislature may invoke impeachment against the Prime Minister for maladministration, or conduct criminal or unbecoming of their position by petition of one quarter of the legislature. The Parliament must then, by a two-thirds majority and with permission from the Senate, ratify the petition against the Prime Minister after proceedings carried out before the Parliament, the Senate prosecuting, the Cabinet defending, and the President presiding. The proceedings shall be carried out in accordance with relevant legislation. The legislature may invoke impeachment against any Minister for maladministration, or conduct criminal or unbecoming of their position by petition of one quarter of the Parliament. The Senate shall hear a closed-doors case against the Minister, Speaker prosecuting and Prime Minister defending.The President, Prime Minister, or Cabinet members need not divulge information to any court unless compelled by the Senate.

Article 7
The Cabinet shall be appointed by the Prime Minister and approved by the Senate, and it shall be composed of the Deputy Prime Minister, the Foreign Minister, the Finance Minister, other members as required by law, and members at the discretion of the Prime Minister. The Cabinet shall advise the Prime Minister and serve a term of two months.

Article 8
The lower house of the legislature shall be the Parliament, composed of one Member from each constituency. All legislation shall originate from the Parliament. The presiding officer of the Parliament shall be the Speaker, elected by the Parliament at the opening of each session. The presiding officer of the Senate shall be the President. Any Member of Parliament may table any legible legislation with at least six sponsors and authors combined in support of its debate, or legislation with approval from the Prime Minister and one other member of the Cabinet. Legislation shall be debated at the Speaker's discretion or as determined by law, then voted upon with votes easily determinable as in favor, against, or abstaining from the legislation. Legislation passes with 50% plus one vote in favor. Legislation may be amended or withdrawn with consent of half of the sponsors and authors any time before voting begins, or by simple majority of the Senate. Any Member of Parliament may raise a point of order to question the legitimacy of legislation or proceedings. The Speaker shall rule the objection sustained or dilatory, which any Member of Parliament may appeal to the Senate. The appeal shall not put a hold on proceedings and any contradictory actions will be repealed if the appeal is upheld. Any Member may move, with eight seconds, to bind a main motion or a restorative motion. With five seconds, one may move for a subsidiary, incidental, or privileged motion, but these are subject to overruling by the Speaker, subject to objection. No Member shall be arrested on the floor except with permission from the Speaker, President, or Senate. Members shall be expected to maintain composure and respect within the chambers of Parliament, eventually as specified by legislation on the matter.

Article 9
The upper house shall be the Senate, composed of six members elected by single-transferable vote. The Senate shall be the upper house, but shall not introduce or vote on legislation. Senators shall hold terms of four months. The President shall preside over the Senate. The President may vote in the Senate only to break ties. All diplomatic agreements and treaties shall be negotiated and agreed upon on the behalf of the Senate, however subject to approval by the Prime Minister prior to becoming law. The President and the Prime Minister shall cooperatively serve as commanders-in-chief of the armed forces. The Senate shall assist them and have the capacity to declare war and peace. The Senate shall have the right to grant pardon to any individual convicted of any crime with sole exception of impeachment proceedings. The Senate shall have the exclusive right to introduce budgetary legislation. The Senate shall hear legislative and procedural appeals and shall be the court of final instance for civil and administrative appeals. The Senate shall declare states of emergency as advised by the President and Prime Minister.

Article 10
No legislation shall be unamendable or unrepealable.

[Wolfmanne2]

It's certainly early, but are there any thoughts on using a system like this for the government's structure?

---

Government Establishment Act

Author: Clint Webb (Ind.)
Sponsors:
An act to establish a framework and a state.

---

Article 1
The state shall be named the State of Dragay. Dragay shall be politically independent from any other state, with the privilege of having its own political authority, henceforth the "Government of Dragay", conducting its own elections, having responsibility for its own protection, existence, and defense. The Government of Dragay shall exclusively wield the privileges to impose fiscal laws on its citizens, to set its own budget, and to issue a currency as the legal tender in Dragay.

Article 2
Dragay shall have as political authorities the President of Dragay and the Prime Minister of Dragay as Heads of State and Government, respectively, and the Parliament and the Senate as the legislature. The principle of the rule of law shall be the basis of all government in Dragay. All authorities, powers, agencies, institutions and individuals shall be subject to law.

Article 3
The executive power shall be vested in the Prime Minister of Dragay. The Prime Minister shall lead the Office of the Prime Minister, the Parliament, and the Executive for a term of two months, to which they shall be appointed by the President on the basis of demonstrating the confidence of the Parliament. The Prime Ministerial inauguration shall consist of their placing of the right hand on the head of the President and their recitation of the oath, thereof: "I, (name), do solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will truly and faithfully, and to the best of my skill and knowledge, execute the powers and trust reposed in me as Prime Minister of Dragay. So help me God." The final word is optional. The Prime Minister shall appoint their Cabinet, which must be approved by each appointment individually by the Senate. The Prime Minister, should they desire to resign, shall be required to provide written resignation to the President.

Article 4
The Prime Minister must approve all legislation passed by the Parliament in order for it to become law. If the Prime Minister declines to sign approval to the legislation within two weeks, then the legislation automatically becomes law. If the Prime Minister vetoes the bill, it is sent to the Senate for revision, then back to the Parliament, which, if they vote in favor of it, sends it back to the Office of the Prime Minister, who then approves or vetoes it. If the Prime Minister again vetoes the bill, the President may reverse the veto with the assent of two-thirds of the Senate. If the Prime Minister approves of the legislation the first time it reaches their desk, the President may veto.

Article 5
The power of the Head of State shall be vested in the President of Dragay. The President shall lead the Office of the President, the Senate, and the Executive for four months, to which the momentary Senate on the end of term of the President preceding shall elect them. The President shall split any votes tied within the Senate. The President shall appoint a Prime Minister who commands the confidence of a majority of the Parliament. The President shall, upon the advice of the Foreign Minister and approval of the Senate, appoint all ambassadors, delegates, and representatives to foreign nations or international organizations. The President shall, upon advice of the Minister of Finance, provide assent to any bills solely concerned with taxation or spending, and no such bills shall be introduced to the legislature without gaining such assent.

Article 6
The legislature may invoke impeachment against the Prime Minister for maladministration, or conduct criminal or unbecoming of their position by petition of one quarter of the legislature. The Parliament must then, by a two-thirds majority and with permission from the Senate, ratify the petition against the Prime Minister after proceedings carried out before the Parliament, the Senate prosecuting, the Cabinet defending, and the President presiding. The proceedings shall be carried out in accordance with relevant legislation. The legislature may invoke impeachment against any Minister for maladministration, or conduct criminal or unbecoming of their position by petition of one quarter of the Parliament. The Senate shall hear a closed-doors case against the Minister, Speaker prosecuting and Prime Minister defending.The President, Prime Minister, or Cabinet members need not divulge information to any court unless compelled by the Senate.

Article 7
The Cabinet shall be appointed by the Prime Minister and approved by the Senate, and it shall be composed of the Deputy Prime Minister, the Foreign Minister, the Finance Minister, other members as required by law, and members at the discretion of the Prime Minister. The Cabinet shall advise the Prime Minister and serve a term of two months.

Article 8
The lower house of the legislature shall be the Parliament, composed of one Member from each constituency. All legislation shall originate from the Parliament. The presiding officer of the Parliament shall be the Speaker, elected by the Parliament at the opening of each session. The presiding officer of the Senate shall be the President. Any Member of Parliament may table any legible legislation with at least six sponsors and authors combined in support of its debate, or legislation with approval from the Prime Minister and one other member of the Cabinet. Legislation shall be debated at the Speaker's discretion or as determined by law, then voted upon with votes easily determinable as in favor, against, or abstaining from the legislation. Legislation passes with 50% plus one vote in favor. Legislation may be amended or withdrawn with consent of half of the sponsors and authors any time before voting begins, or by simple majority of the Senate. Any Member of Parliament may raise a point of order to question the legitimacy of legislation or proceedings. The Speaker shall rule the objection sustained or dilatory, which any Member of Parliament may appeal to the Senate. The appeal shall not put a hold on proceedings and any contradictory actions will be repealed if the appeal is upheld. Any Member may move, with eight seconds, to bind a main motion or a restorative motion. With five seconds, one may move for a subsidiary, incidental, or privileged motion, but these are subject to overruling by the Speaker, subject to objection. No Member shall be arrested on the floor except with permission from the Speaker, President, or Senate. Members shall be expected to maintain composure and respect within the chambers of Parliament, eventually as specified by legislation on the matter.

Article 9
The upper house shall be the Senate, composed of six members elected by single-transferable vote. The Senate shall be the upper house, but shall not introduce or vote on legislation. Senators shall hold terms of four months. The President shall preside over the Senate. The President may vote in the Senate only to break ties. All diplomatic agreements and treaties shall be negotiated and agreed upon on the behalf of the Senate, however subject to approval by the Prime Minister prior to becoming law. The President and the Prime Minister shall cooperatively serve as commanders-in-chief of the armed forces. The Senate shall assist them and have the capacity to declare war and peace. The Senate shall have the right to grant pardon to any individual convicted of any crime with sole exception of impeachment proceedings. The Senate shall have the exclusive right to introduce budgetary legislation. The Senate shall hear legislative and procedural appeals and shall be the court of final instance for civil and administrative appeals. The Senate shall declare states of emergency as advised by the President and Prime Minister.

Article 10
No legislation shall be unamendable or unrepealable.

Just let the Admins flesh out the details if you ask me.