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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:18 pm

Ikania wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:So what is the new country?

NSGS 'chose' the boring old European welfare state by 1 vote.

Hooray.


I will be starting or affiliating with a Pagan Reconstructionist/Nationalist party then.
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Postby Heraklea- » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:21 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ikania wrote:NSGS 'chose' the boring old European welfare state by 1 vote.

Hooray.


I will be starting or affiliating with a Pagan Reconstructionist/Nationalist party then.

You should join the Viking Party.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:22 pm

Heraklea- wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
I will be starting or affiliating with a Pagan Reconstructionist/Nationalist party then.

You should join the Viking Party.


I looked at it. That really doesn't fit.
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Postby Collatis » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:25 pm

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 5&t=358398

We are in Scandinavia, what did you expect?

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:25 pm

Does anyone want to work collaboratively on the map? All you need is Dropbox and a version of Adobe Illustrator (although I can work with Inkscape if I really have to).
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Postby Ikania » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:29 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Heraklea- wrote:You should join the Viking Party.


I looked at it. That really doesn't fit.

The Revolutionary Socialist Party is always open. We're Ultranationalist Commies with a penchant for corruption and authoritarianism.
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Postby Tuthina » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:33 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ikania wrote:NSGS 'chose' the boring old European welfare state by 1 vote.

Hooray.


I will be starting or affiliating with a Pagan Reconstructionist/Nationalist party then.

The National Revivalists might interest you. :)
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:37 pm

Tuthina wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
I will be starting or affiliating with a Pagan Reconstructionist/Nationalist party then.

The National Revivalists might interest you. :)


I am looking for an explicitly pagan and explicitly nationalist party. While the fascists are nationalistic, I was under the impression they were secular.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:49 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Tuthina wrote:The National Revivalists might interest you. :)


I am looking for an explicitly pagan and explicitly nationalist party. While the fascists are nationalistic, I was under the impression they were secular.

The Tankie party is actually explicitly pagan and nationalist, in fact.
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Postby Ikania » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:53 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Tuthina wrote:The National Revivalists might interest you. :)


I am looking for an explicitly pagan and explicitly nationalist party. While the fascists are nationalistic, I was under the impression they were secular.

The Revolutionary Socialists are committed to a program of Cultural Revival, which means promoting paganism and the old ways. At the same time we are very antitheistic and anti-Christian, Islamophobic and Anti-Semitic. Hooray for hypocrisy!
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:58 pm

Ikania wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
I am looking for an explicitly pagan and explicitly nationalist party. While the fascists are nationalistic, I was under the impression they were secular.

The Revolutionary Socialists are committed to a program of Cultural Revival, which means promoting paganism and the old ways. At the same time we are very antitheistic and anti-Christian, Islamophobic and Anti-Semitic. Hooray for hypocrisy!


I don't know if I really want a communist party though. Nationalistic, yes. Possibly socialistic. Definitely pagan. But not communistic or that far-left. (The far-left got *reaaaaalllllllyyyyy* boring the last two incarnations).

The current plan is a nationalist, anti-Multicultural, anti-Christian Folkish Pagan party with fairly moderate social views and moderate socialist economics. Nationalistic (possibly militarist) foreign policy.
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Postby Ikania » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:04 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ikania wrote:The Revolutionary Socialists are committed to a program of Cultural Revival, which means promoting paganism and the old ways. At the same time we are very antitheistic and anti-Christian, Islamophobic and Anti-Semitic. Hooray for hypocrisy!


I don't know if I really want a communist party though. Nationalistic, yes. Possibly socialistic. Definitely pagan. But not communistic or that far-left. (The far-left got *reaaaaalllllllyyyyy* boring the last two incarnations).

The current plan is a nationalist, anti-Multicultural, anti-Christian Folkish Pagan party with fairly moderate social views and moderate socialist economics. Nationalistic (possibly militarist) foreign policy.

You literally just described our party. All you need now is an overthrowal of the state and it replacement with a syndicalist society of communism which will never be achieved because we'll centralize all power and keep the country in the second stage of communism because we're all greedy fucks. State Capitalist economics, friend. Centralizing the Bourgeois since 1917.

Also likely to be more socially conservative just for the hell of it. But hey, we'll probably be neutral on those policies aside from our rabid hatred of organized religion.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:09 pm

Ikania wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
I don't know if I really want a communist party though. Nationalistic, yes. Possibly socialistic. Definitely pagan. But not communistic or that far-left. (The far-left got *reaaaaalllllllyyyyy* boring the last two incarnations).

The current plan is a nationalist, anti-Multicultural, anti-Christian Folkish Pagan party with fairly moderate social views and moderate socialist economics. Nationalistic (possibly militarist) foreign policy.

You literally just described our party. All you need now is an overthrowal of the state and it replacement with a syndicalist society of communism which will never be achieved because we'll centralize all power and keep the country in the second stage of communism because we're all greedy fucks. State Capitalist economics, friend. Centralizing the Bourgeois since 1917.

Also likely to be more socially conservative just for the hell of it. But hey, we'll probably be neutral on those policies aside from our rabid hatred of organized religion.


This is what turns me off. I don't want a socially conservative party because I want a new nationalist party unique to the region. One fiercely nationalist but not conservative or revolutionary (at least, in an economic sense).
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:35 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ikania wrote:You literally just described our party. All you need now is an overthrowal of the state and it replacement with a syndicalist society of communism which will never be achieved because we'll centralize all power and keep the country in the second stage of communism because we're all greedy fucks. State Capitalist economics, friend. Centralizing the Bourgeois since 1917.

Also likely to be more socially conservative just for the hell of it. But hey, we'll probably be neutral on those policies aside from our rabid hatred of organized religion.


This is what turns me off. I don't want a socially conservative party because I want a new nationalist party unique to the region. One fiercely nationalist but not conservative or revolutionary (at least, in an economic sense).

Except we aren't going to be conservative in any sense - I don't see us having intense social policies of that sort. And we won't really be anarchistic or actually planning for full communism any time soon. We're just state socialists.

You're basically talking about our party. Literally. Your description is us. Making another party would just be superfluous.
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Postby Ainin » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:40 pm

Oh look, it's Biden and the Left Alliance all over again.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:41 pm

Ainin wrote:Oh look, it's Biden and the Left Alliance all over again.

What?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:59 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
This is what turns me off. I don't want a socially conservative party because I want a new nationalist party unique to the region. One fiercely nationalist but not conservative or revolutionary (at least, in an economic sense).

Except we aren't going to be conservative in any sense - I don't see us having intense social policies of that sort. And we won't really be anarchistic or actually planning for full communism any time soon. We're just state socialists.

You're basically talking about our party. Literally. Your description is us. Making another party would just be superfluous.


No it wouldn't, seeing that the party I am planning is not a "revolutionary socialist party" and is predominantly a nationalist party.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:35 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Except we aren't going to be conservative in any sense - I don't see us having intense social policies of that sort. And we won't really be anarchistic or actually planning for full communism any time soon. We're just state socialists.

You're basically talking about our party. Literally. Your description is us. Making another party would just be superfluous.

No it wouldn't, seeing that the party I am planning is not a "revolutionary socialist party" and is predominantly a nationalist party.

So is ours... You're just making up semantics at this point because you want to do your own thing. Go ahead, but be aware it's an... unnecessary and superfluous idea. *shrugs*
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Postby Argentarino » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:39 pm

I think I'm just going to be an Independent. I'm not fond of the setting, I'm not fond of either of the parties. Just gonna wing it.
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Postby Ravenflight » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:50 am

Argentarino wrote:I think I'm just going to be an Independent. I'm not fond of the setting, I'm not fond of either of the parties. Just gonna wing it.

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Postby Mariarty » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:56 am

How can I be a Senator?

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:29 am

Mariarty wrote:How can I be a Senator?

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Postby U n i t y » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:07 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:NSGS LINKS FACTBOOK

What about my party?

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:11 am

U n i t y wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:NSGS LINKS FACTBOOK

What about my party?


TG me a Link.
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